Re: [MBZ] 1979 240D Starter Replacement

2007-08-12 Thread Tom Hargrave
I could only drop mine out the bottom.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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It seems than at Sat, 11 Aug 2007 10:09:11 -0700 (PDT), LWB250 wrote:

> Never having worked on a 240D, I'm not sure if the
> exhaust routing would make it different...

I think on my W123 240 I was able to reach in from the top and
lift it out.

But that was a while ago, so my memory could be faulty. I
probably had to take the air cleaner off.

However, I am sure that I didn't have to remove or loosen
anything more significant than the air cleaner to do the swap.

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] 1979 240D Starter Replacement

2007-08-12 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Sat, 11 Aug 2007 10:09:11 -0700 (PDT), LWB250 wrote:

> Never having worked on a 240D, I'm not sure if the
> exhaust routing would make it different...

I think on my W123 240 I was able to reach in from the top and
lift it out.

But that was a while ago, so my memory could be faulty. I
probably had to take the air cleaner off.

However, I am sure that I didn't have to remove or loosen
anything more significant than the air cleaner to do the swap.

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] 1979 240D Starter Replacement

2007-08-12 Thread ts
Thanks Dwight.  Did it yesterday, removed file tube support bolt and and to 
losen bango below on tranny file tube to.  Lost about a qurt of ATF in the 
process.  Hard job but got er done.  Am I getting too old for this?
thanks Tom Scordato
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1979 240D Starter Replacement


> Tom,
> Yes, Haynes says to remove the steering track bolt and the fill tube bolt
> and have an assistant push the tube rearward to allow clearance for 
> starter
> to be pulled out. Not much clearance. . I watched my indie do mine and he
> did a lot of the bolt work from the top, but got under it and dropped it. 
> I
> didn't see him move the dipstick tube, so might get by without doing that. 
> .
> Dwight
> Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
> 1979 240D-250K + miles
> 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles
> Wickford, RI
>
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> Subject: [MBZ] 1979 240D Starter Replacement
>
> Car is a automatic.  Going to attempt to change starter.  Did it on my 
> 1977
> 300D 5 years ago.  Questions
> Looks like I do not have to remove the tranny fill dip stick tube?
> Can I do the job from pull up ramps?
> Any help would appreciate it.
>
> Regards Tom Scordato, Bellefonte PA
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1979 240D Starter Replacement

2007-08-11 Thread LWB250
I don't know about a 240D, but on a 300D and 300TD,
it's just a matter of pulling the bolts and cables,
then twisting it around like a puzzle piece until it
slides out between the exhaust and suspension/frame. 
It takes a little doig until you get it oriented
correctly, if I recall.

Never having worked on a 240D, I'm not sure if the
exhaust routing would make it different...

Dan



--- Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm afraid I don't know about the auto tranny
> dipstick issue. But I do
> know that the starter gets dropped out the bottom
> after you access the
> bolts any way you prefer.
> 
> You turn your wheels all the way one direction or
> the other, and you
> rotate the starter like 90 degrees or something like
> that. This allows
> the solenoid to pass through the suspension parts.
> 
> I did successfully extract the starter through the
> top one time, but
> through the bottom is much much easier. (I just like
> to brag about
> that).
> 
> Brian
> 83 240D
> 87 190D
> 
> On 8/11/07, Dwight E. Giles, Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Tom,
> > Yes, Haynes says to remove the steering track bolt
> and the fill tube bolt
> > and have an assistant push the tube rearward to
> allow clearance for starter
> > to be pulled out. Not much clearance. . I watched
> my indie do mine and he
> > did a lot of the bolt work from the top, but got
> under it and dropped it.  I
> > didn't see him move the dipstick tube, so might
> get by without doing that. .
> > Dwight
> > Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
> > 1979 240D-250K + miles
> > 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles
> > Wickford, RI
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 8:22 AM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Subject: [MBZ] 1979 240D Starter Replacement
> >
> > Car is a automatic.  Going to attempt to change
> starter.  Did it on my 1977
> > 300D 5 years ago.  Questions
> > Looks like I do not have to remove the tranny fill
> dip stick tube?
> > Can I do the job from pull up ramps?
> > Any help would appreciate it.
> >
> > Regards Tom Scordato, Bellefonte PA
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 1979 240D Starter Replacement

2007-08-11 Thread Zoltan Finks
I'm afraid I don't know about the auto tranny dipstick issue. But I do
know that the starter gets dropped out the bottom after you access the
bolts any way you prefer.

You turn your wheels all the way one direction or the other, and you
rotate the starter like 90 degrees or something like that. This allows
the solenoid to pass through the suspension parts.

I did successfully extract the starter through the top one time, but
through the bottom is much much easier. (I just like to brag about
that).

Brian
83 240D
87 190D

On 8/11/07, Dwight E. Giles, Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tom,
> Yes, Haynes says to remove the steering track bolt and the fill tube bolt
> and have an assistant push the tube rearward to allow clearance for starter
> to be pulled out. Not much clearance. . I watched my indie do mine and he
> did a lot of the bolt work from the top, but got under it and dropped it.  I
> didn't see him move the dipstick tube, so might get by without doing that. .
> Dwight
> Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
> 1979 240D-250K + miles
> 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles
> Wickford, RI
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 8:22 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: [MBZ] 1979 240D Starter Replacement
>
> Car is a automatic.  Going to attempt to change starter.  Did it on my 1977
> 300D 5 years ago.  Questions
> Looks like I do not have to remove the tranny fill dip stick tube?
> Can I do the job from pull up ramps?
> Any help would appreciate it.
>
> Regards Tom Scordato, Bellefonte PA
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1979 240D Starter Replacement

2007-08-11 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Tom,
Yes, Haynes says to remove the steering track bolt and the fill tube bolt
and have an assistant push the tube rearward to allow clearance for starter
to be pulled out. Not much clearance. . I watched my indie do mine and he
did a lot of the bolt work from the top, but got under it and dropped it.  I
didn't see him move the dipstick tube, so might get by without doing that. .
Dwight
Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1979 240D-250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles
Wickford, RI

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To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] 1979 240D Starter Replacement

Car is a automatic.  Going to attempt to change starter.  Did it on my 1977 
300D 5 years ago.  Questions
Looks like I do not have to remove the tranny fill dip stick tube?
Can I do the job from pull up ramps?
Any help would appreciate it.

Regards Tom Scordato, Bellefonte PA 



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[MBZ] 1979 240D Starter Replacement

2007-08-11 Thread ts
Car is a automatic.  Going to attempt to change starter.  Did it on my 1977 
300D 5 years ago.  Questions
Looks like I do not have to remove the tranny fill dip stick tube?
Can I do the job from pull up ramps?
Any help would appreciate it.

Regards Tom Scordato, Bellefonte PA 



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