Re: [MBZ] 240D oil pressure wackiness
Perhaps you at least learned that you can not learn anything by checking the engine oil while the engine is running?? I think you were lucky that the engine didn't seize! On 10/24/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: seems like the list is down, which means you'll get this in time to disregard my previous post. After sitting for 4 hours, I checked the oil level (coolant was fine) - NOTHING. So I added 3 qrts (2 probably would have been better) and now everything is back to normal. DH (as Homer would say). No excuse, but not having a working odometer probably contributed to my lack of oversight. It obviously does burn oil. Will need to watch that much more carefully. Are there any maintenance issues that would improve burning oil? Oil Pressure is good, compression is not great...what is the cause? worn rings? Anything a healthy dose of Diesel Purge might fix? How about a 3,000 highway run on M1 to break crud up on the rings and help them reseat? This car sat in MN FOREVER and I have only driven it around town and local highways. At first it would not start under 40, let alone at near freezing on my special sauce (alternative fuel) Again, thanks for bearaing with my more or less dumb questions. Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] 240D oil pressure wackiness
Chris, I had the exact same symptoms on my 240D last winter. I replaced the oil cap which had been leaking, vowed to keep a closer eye on oil level and it hasn't happened again. My car consumes a quart of oil in about 800 miles (Mobil 1 5w40, 15w50 and 0w40, tried all 3). It leaks a fair bit of that and must burn some too. I've driven about 35,000 miles since I switched to synthetic and all I can say is it isn't getting any worse. Maybe a little better but I don't keep careful enough records... -Curt '83 240D Hammie 247kmi Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:16:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 240D oil pressure wackiness To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 seems like the list is down, which means you'll get this in time to disregard my previous post. After sitting for 4 hours, I checked the oil level (coolant was fine) - NOTHING. So I added 3 qrts (2 probably would have been better) and now everything is back to normal. DH (as Homer would say). No excuse, but not having a working odometer probably contributed to my lack of oversight. It obviously does burn oil. Will need to watch that much more carefully. Are there any maintenance issues that would improve burning oil? Oil Pressure is good, compression is not great...what is the cause? worn rings? Anything a healthy dose of Diesel Purge might fix? How about a 3,000 highway run on M1 to break crud up on the rings and help them reseat? This car sat in MN FOREVER and I have only driven it around town and local highways. At first it would not start under 40, let alone at near freezing on my special sauce (alternative fuel) Again, thanks for bearaing with my more or less dumb questions. Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotk?ppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Pr?fenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Oct 25 10:45:45 2005 Received: from pop-siberian.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.71]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EUMJN-0002hM-3C for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 10:45:45 + Received: from user-1120t3p.dsl.mindspring.com ([66.32.116.121] helo=Bill) by pop-siberian.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1EUMJL-00064X-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 06:45:43 -0400 From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 06:45:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-Index: AcXZAlNDzyG5aH3mTyewHitiHWlxwAATNmNA In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] Terminal population X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 10:45:45 - Message: 1 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 17:50:43 -0700 From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] population To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Everyone in this world could be as happy as a Catholic Bishop on a deserted island with the Vienna boys choir, but, the bottom line is this: This earth can physically only support a certain population (what that number is, I don't know, I hear it has been raised over and over) before people starve and die. *** Absolutely correct, and IIRC, that terminal population number [actually a reference to the point at which birth and death numbers match, but often touted as the max population of the earth] from about 25 years ago is 16 - 17 billion. I have never trusted such numbers as they suggest that people will behave in ways that people never will. My point is that we
Re: [MBZ] 240D oil pressure wackiness
Chris and Curt, Yes, I replaced the gasket on the oil fill cap on the valve cover on my 240D and that stopped the leakage. The part was about $1.50 from Rusty. Dwight Dwight Giles 1979 240D auto 244k + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 127K miles Wickford, RI - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 5:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D oil pressure wackiness Chris, I had the exact same symptoms on my 240D last winter. I replaced the oil cap which had been leaking, vowed to keep a closer eye on oil level and it hasn't happened again. My car consumes a quart of oil in about 800 miles (Mobil 1 5w40, 15w50 and 0w40, tried all 3). It leaks a fair bit of that and must burn some too. I've driven about 35,000 miles since I switched to synthetic and all I can say is it isn't getting any worse. Maybe a little better but I don't keep careful enough records... -Curt '83 240D Hammie 247kmi Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:16:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 240D oil pressure wackiness To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 seems like the list is down, which means you'll get this in time to disregard my previous post. After sitting for 4 hours, I checked the oil level (coolant was fine) - NOTHING. So I added 3 qrts (2 probably would have been better) and now everything is back to normal. DH (as Homer would say). No excuse, but not having a working odometer probably contributed to my lack of oversight. It obviously does burn oil. Will need to watch that much more carefully. Are there any maintenance issues that would improve burning oil? Oil Pressure is good, compression is not great...what is the cause? worn rings? Anything a healthy dose of Diesel Purge might fix? How about a 3,000 highway run on M1 to break crud up on the rings and help them reseat? This car sat in MN FOREVER and I have only driven it around town and local highways. At first it would not start under 40, let alone at near freezing on my special sauce (alternative fuel) Again, thanks for bearaing with my more or less dumb questions. Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotk?ppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Pr?fenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 240D oil pressure wackiness
Yes, it was pathetically stupid...I think I was thinking of 300SD ATF check procedure. I have never checked oil before on a running engine. Very humbling. Chris --- OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps you at least learned that you can not learn anything by checking the engine oil while the engine is running?? I think you were lucky that the engine didn't seize! On 10/24/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: seems like the list is down, which means you'll get this in time to disregard my previous post. After sitting for 4 hours, I checked the oil level (coolant was fine) - NOTHING. So I added 3 qrts (2 probably would have been better) and now everything is back to normal. DH (as Homer would say). No excuse, but not having a working odometer probably contributed to my lack of oversight. It obviously does burn oil. Will need to watch that much more carefully. Are there any maintenance issues that would improve burning oil? Oil Pressure is good, compression is not great...what is the cause? worn rings? Anything a healthy dose of Diesel Purge might fix? How about a 3,000 highway run on M1 to break crud up on the rings and help them reseat? This car sat in MN FOREVER and I have only driven it around town and local highways. At first it would not start under 40, let alone at near freezing on my special sauce (alternative fuel) Again, thanks for bearaing with my more or less dumb questions. Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D oil pressure wackiness
Lube oil, Lube oil. I check every fill up. Car is shut down wait for a few minutes clean dip stick place in guide tube, count to 5 one thousand check. Look for leaks at oil cooling lines every fill up. Quick inspect of radiator and heating hoses. While driving check oil pressure and temp of engine every few minutes. (or better yet every time you check speedo) If a drop happens or a drastic rise in engine temp, pull over imediately and shut her down and inspect. Like most metal scraping metal, it does not hold up long with no lube oil, especially at high speeds, low tolerances and high temps. Mine 77 300D also consumes about 1/2 to a quart every 1,000 miles or so. Has for three years, no worse no better using sythetic. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 5:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D oil pressure wackiness Chris, I had the exact same symptoms on my 240D last winter. I replaced the oil cap which had been leaking, vowed to keep a closer eye on oil level and it hasn't happened again. My car consumes a quart of oil in about 800 miles (Mobil 1 5w40, 15w50 and 0w40, tried all 3). It leaks a fair bit of that and must burn some too. I've driven about 35,000 miles since I switched to synthetic and all I can say is it isn't getting any worse. Maybe a little better but I don't keep careful enough records... -Curt '83 240D Hammie 247kmi Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:16:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 240D oil pressure wackiness To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 seems like the list is down, which means you'll get this in time to disregard my previous post. After sitting for 4 hours, I checked the oil level (coolant was fine) - NOTHING. So I added 3 qrts (2 probably would have been better) and now everything is back to normal. DH (as Homer would say). No excuse, but not having a working odometer probably contributed to my lack of oversight. It obviously does burn oil. Will need to watch that much more carefully. Are there any maintenance issues that would improve burning oil? Oil Pressure is good, compression is not great...what is the cause? worn rings? Anything a healthy dose of Diesel Purge might fix? How about a 3,000 highway run on M1 to break crud up on the rings and help them reseat? This car sat in MN FOREVER and I have only driven it around town and local highways. At first it would not start under 40, let alone at near freezing on my special sauce (alternative fuel) Again, thanks for bearaing with my more or less dumb questions. Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotk?ppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Pr?fenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] 240D oil pressure wackiness
It was about 35 degrees this morning. 240D (with goopy mixture of Kero/D2/oil/etc) started on the third crank. Ran fine, as always. After about 15 minutes of driving, I noticed that the oil pressure was not at 45...and that it was flopping all over. Up, down...up when slowing down, up when idling, up when accelerating, down when accelerating - all over the place with little rhyme or reason. Pulled over and checked the oil level with the car running - it was over high. I have not added any oil since the last oil change. It doesn't leak at all, nor does it burn, that I know of (M1 15W-50, BTW). Oil was black and did not notice or smell anything like coolant (will check that later once all has cooled down). Will also check engine oil level later once all has cooled down. Got to work and in neutral, did get rhyme or reason out of it. At idle it would hang around 20 or so...but I would have to get it to 3,000 rpm or so (guess, no tach) before it would peg 45. At least this was consistant. Question: What might be going on? If it were the oil pump in the engine acting that crazy (i.e. BROKEN), would I be able to tell by how the engine ran? Has my oil pressure guage gone goofy? Thanks for any ideas. Chris, perhaps loosing his experimental vehicle... Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
[MBZ] 240D oil pressure wackiness
seems like the list is down, which means you'll get this in time to disregard my previous post. After sitting for 4 hours, I checked the oil level (coolant was fine) - NOTHING. So I added 3 qrts (2 probably would have been better) and now everything is back to normal. DH (as Homer would say). No excuse, but not having a working odometer probably contributed to my lack of oversight. It obviously does burn oil. Will need to watch that much more carefully. Are there any maintenance issues that would improve burning oil? Oil Pressure is good, compression is not great...what is the cause? worn rings? Anything a healthy dose of Diesel Purge might fix? How about a 3,000 highway run on M1 to break crud up on the rings and help them reseat? This car sat in MN FOREVER and I have only driven it around town and local highways. At first it would not start under 40, let alone at near freezing on my special sauce (alternative fuel) Again, thanks for bearaing with my more or less dumb questions. Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
