Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
I know what you mean. After countless attempts, I am awesome at installing wiper blades on W123 cars and nearly so at adjusting the w/s squirter gismos. On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 5:39 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: I just meant that you will have an easier time if you have done it a time or two. The first time is always the worst. Still a pain but at least you know what you are doing. For example, I have changed the clutch in our old 4Runner 3 times. I never want to do it again, but I do remember how to do it. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 3:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension What car? On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:26 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: Difficult the first time. After that, not so bad. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 2:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension I bought a 3 DVD set explaining how to replace the head on an OM 617 turbodiesel engine. Looks like a real bear of a job, unless you did it for a living... On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Michael Esh michael...@me.com wrote: Andrew, When it comes off we will take a look at and contact you. Mike On Jul 21, 2009, at 10:12 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Adsit sells them rebuilt with a valve job for only $500, plus the core charge. I don't know how they do it and manage to make a profit. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:11 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: What's the package price for you to fly it in and install it? On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Michael Esh michael...@me.com wrote: We will pulling the engine in few weeks and hopefully the head will be intact. What is the value of such a head? i am sure it can be discounted for a fellow member. Mike On Jul 21, 2009, at 9:37 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Michael Esh wrote: We ended up towing in on the dolly with rear wheels on the ground for about 150 miles. Did we ruin transmission as well? Well, it does have a rear pump I believe, but I'm sure you did it no favors. If in doubt, remove a flex disk and separate the drive shaft for a trip that long. You didn't hurt Andrew's new head when you blew the engine, did you? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/536112bb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/bd1b276c/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
That request is still on the table. DC is fantastic in August... On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Craig McCluskey wrote: Andrew was bragging about Adsit having a rebuilt head at a low price; Dan just commented on the price and the source. Oooh, I thought Poos was commenting on Andy's request that Mike deliver and install the head off his new parts motor. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090722/f595e278/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
I just meant that you will have an easier time if you have done it a time or two. The first time is always the worst. Still a pain but at least you know what you are doing. For example, I have changed the clutch in our old 4Runner 3 times. I never want to do it again, but I do remember how to do it. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 3:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension What car? On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:26 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: Difficult the first time. After that, not so bad. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 2:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension I bought a 3 DVD set explaining how to replace the head on an OM 617 turbodiesel engine. Looks like a real bear of a job, unless you did it for a living... On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Michael Esh michael...@me.com wrote: Andrew, When it comes off we will take a look at and contact you. Mike On Jul 21, 2009, at 10:12 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Adsit sells them rebuilt with a valve job for only $500, plus the core charge. I don't know how they do it and manage to make a profit. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:11 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: What's the package price for you to fly it in and install it? On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Michael Esh michael...@me.com wrote: We will pulling the engine in few weeks and hopefully the head will be intact. What is the value of such a head? i am sure it can be discounted for a fellow member. Mike On Jul 21, 2009, at 9:37 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Michael Esh wrote: We ended up towing in on the dolly with rear wheels on the ground for about 150 miles. Did we ruin transmission as well? Well, it does have a rear pump I believe, but I'm sure you did it no favors. If in doubt, remove a flex disk and separate the drive shaft for a trip that long. You didn't hurt Andrew's new head when you blew the engine, did you? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/536112bb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/bd1b276c/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/049483aa/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new
[MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
The 85 300TD Wagon is home and we are ready to begin the transfer of engine and such from the the 82. Is there a site that has information on the rear suspension of the wagons that would help us trouble shoot? Had trouble with front wheels wobbling and throwing the pickup around at about 45 MPH so we took it off the dolly and tried to drive it for a ways. The seller had told us the engine was in bad shape but what the heck. We drove it off the dolly and within minutes there was loud bang and the engine died. We ended up towing in on the dolly with rear wheels on the ground for about 150 miles. Did we ruin transmission as well? Thanks to Rick Noble for the words of encouragement on the way back to Michigan as well as the palomino seats he donated. All parts will be put to use. Thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
You need to have it towed back to front, i.e., with the FRONT wheels rolling along and the rear wheels sitting on the dolly. I can't say if you ruined the transmission, but there is a chance that you did. But don't despair: there are plenty of wagons out there with good drive trains, if you can do your own transplants. Are you near NJ? On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Michael Esh michael...@me.com wrote: The 85 300TD Wagon is home and we are ready to begin the transfer of engine and such from the the 82. Is there a site that has information on the rear suspension of the wagons that would help us trouble shoot? Had trouble with front wheels wobbling and throwing the pickup around at about 45 MPH so we took it off the dolly and tried to drive it for a ways. The seller had told us the engine was in bad shape but what the heck. We drove it off the dolly and within minutes there was loud bang and the engine died. We ended up towing in on the dolly with rear wheels on the ground for about 150 miles. Did we ruin transmission as well? Thanks to Rick Noble for the words of encouragement on the way back to Michigan as well as the palomino seats he donated. All parts will be put to use. Thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/5fb488ff/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
Oops - Michigan. Never mind. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:21 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: You need to have it towed back to front, i.e., with the FRONT wheels rolling along and the rear wheels sitting on the dolly. I can't say if you ruined the transmission, but there is a chance that you did. But don't despair: there are plenty of wagons out there with good drive trains, if you can do your own transplants. Are you near NJ? On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Michael Esh michael...@me.com wrote: The 85 300TD Wagon is home and we are ready to begin the transfer of engine and such from the the 82. Is there a site that has information on the rear suspension of the wagons that would help us trouble shoot? Had trouble with front wheels wobbling and throwing the pickup around at about 45 MPH so we took it off the dolly and tried to drive it for a ways. The seller had told us the engine was in bad shape but what the heck. We drove it off the dolly and within minutes there was loud bang and the engine died. We ended up towing in on the dolly with rear wheels on the ground for about 150 miles. Did we ruin transmission as well? Thanks to Rick Noble for the words of encouragement on the way back to Michigan as well as the palomino seats he donated. All parts will be put to use. Thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/8b4360e7/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
Michael Esh wrote: We ended up towing in on the dolly with rear wheels on the ground for about 150 miles. Did we ruin transmission as well? Well, it does have a rear pump I believe, but I'm sure you did it no favors. If in doubt, remove a flex disk and separate the drive shaft for a trip that long. You didn't hurt Andrew's new head when you blew the engine, did you? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
We will pulling the engine in few weeks and hopefully the head will be intact. What is the value of such a head? i am sure it can be discounted for a fellow member. Mike On Jul 21, 2009, at 9:37 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Michael Esh wrote: We ended up towing in on the dolly with rear wheels on the ground for about 150 miles. Did we ruin transmission as well? Well, it does have a rear pump I believe, but I'm sure you did it no favors. If in doubt, remove a flex disk and separate the drive shaft for a trip that long. You didn't hurt Andrew's new head when you blew the engine, did you? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
What's the package price for you to fly it in and install it? On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Michael Esh michael...@me.com wrote: We will pulling the engine in few weeks and hopefully the head will be intact. What is the value of such a head? i am sure it can be discounted for a fellow member. Mike On Jul 21, 2009, at 9:37 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Michael Esh wrote: We ended up towing in on the dolly with rear wheels on the ground for about 150 miles. Did we ruin transmission as well? Well, it does have a rear pump I believe, but I'm sure you did it no favors. If in doubt, remove a flex disk and separate the drive shaft for a trip that long. You didn't hurt Andrew's new head when you blew the engine, did you? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/6303ec81/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
Adsit sells them rebuilt with a valve job for only $500, plus the core charge. I don't know how they do it and manage to make a profit. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:11 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: What's the package price for you to fly it in and install it? On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Michael Esh michael...@me.com wrote: We will pulling the engine in few weeks and hopefully the head will be intact. What is the value of such a head? i am sure it can be discounted for a fellow member. Mike On Jul 21, 2009, at 9:37 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Michael Esh wrote: We ended up towing in on the dolly with rear wheels on the ground for about 150 miles. Did we ruin transmission as well? Well, it does have a rear pump I believe, but I'm sure you did it no favors. If in doubt, remove a flex disk and separate the drive shaft for a trip that long. You didn't hurt Andrew's new head when you blew the engine, did you? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/536112bb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
andrew strasfogel wrote: What's the package price for you to fly it in and install it? How many pounds of luggage is he allowed these days, and what does a 617 head with valve train and prechambers weigh? At least you know the baggage handlers won't be throwing it very far. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
andrew strasfogel wrote: Adsit sells them rebuilt with a valve job for only $500, plus the core charge. I don't know how they do it and manage to make a profit. By not replacing much of anything? The last head job I had done cost me $120. That's to disassemble, clean, mill two aluminum heads flat, cut 12 three angle valve seats and 12 valves, trim 12 valve stems to regain the original pushrod geometry, and reassemble. Would have been a bargain if I'd noticed they got a valve keeper in wrong before I put the head back on the engine. That was a PITA to fix, would have taken me two minutes if I'd inspected the head carefully before I put it back on the engine. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
Andrew, When it comes off we will take a look at and contact you. Mike On Jul 21, 2009, at 10:12 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Adsit sells them rebuilt with a valve job for only $500, plus the core charge. I don't know how they do it and manage to make a profit. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:11 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: What's the package price for you to fly it in and install it? On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Michael Esh michael...@me.com wrote: We will pulling the engine in few weeks and hopefully the head will be intact. What is the value of such a head? i am sure it can be discounted for a fellow member. Mike On Jul 21, 2009, at 9:37 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Michael Esh wrote: We ended up towing in on the dolly with rear wheels on the ground for about 150 miles. Did we ruin transmission as well? Well, it does have a rear pump I believe, but I'm sure you did it no favors. If in doubt, remove a flex disk and separate the drive shaft for a trip that long. You didn't hurt Andrew's new head when you blew the engine, did you? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/536112bb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
I bought a 3 DVD set explaining how to replace the head on an OM 617 turbodiesel engine. Looks like a real bear of a job, unless you did it for a living... On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Michael Esh michael...@me.com wrote: Andrew, When it comes off we will take a look at and contact you. Mike On Jul 21, 2009, at 10:12 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Adsit sells them rebuilt with a valve job for only $500, plus the core charge. I don't know how they do it and manage to make a profit. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:11 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: What's the package price for you to fly it in and install it? On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Michael Esh michael...@me.com wrote: We will pulling the engine in few weeks and hopefully the head will be intact. What is the value of such a head? i am sure it can be discounted for a fellow member. Mike On Jul 21, 2009, at 9:37 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Michael Esh wrote: We ended up towing in on the dolly with rear wheels on the ground for about 150 miles. Did we ruin transmission as well? Well, it does have a rear pump I believe, but I'm sure you did it no favors. If in doubt, remove a flex disk and separate the drive shaft for a trip that long. You didn't hurt Andrew's new head when you blew the engine, did you? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/536112bb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/bd1b276c/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
Difficult the first time. After that, not so bad. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 2:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension I bought a 3 DVD set explaining how to replace the head on an OM 617 turbodiesel engine. Looks like a real bear of a job, unless you did it for a living... On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Michael Esh michael...@me.com wrote: Andrew, When it comes off we will take a look at and contact you. Mike On Jul 21, 2009, at 10:12 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Adsit sells them rebuilt with a valve job for only $500, plus the core charge. I don't know how they do it and manage to make a profit. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:11 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: What's the package price for you to fly it in and install it? On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Michael Esh michael...@me.com wrote: We will pulling the engine in few weeks and hopefully the head will be intact. What is the value of such a head? i am sure it can be discounted for a fellow member. Mike On Jul 21, 2009, at 9:37 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Michael Esh wrote: We ended up towing in on the dolly with rear wheels on the ground for about 150 miles. Did we ruin transmission as well? Well, it does have a rear pump I believe, but I'm sure you did it no favors. If in doubt, remove a flex disk and separate the drive shaft for a trip that long. You didn't hurt Andrew's new head when you blew the engine, did you? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/536112bb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/bd1b276c/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
What car? On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:26 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: Difficult the first time. After that, not so bad. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 2:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension I bought a 3 DVD set explaining how to replace the head on an OM 617 turbodiesel engine. Looks like a real bear of a job, unless you did it for a living... On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Michael Esh michael...@me.com wrote: Andrew, When it comes off we will take a look at and contact you. Mike On Jul 21, 2009, at 10:12 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Adsit sells them rebuilt with a valve job for only $500, plus the core charge. I don't know how they do it and manage to make a profit. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:11 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: What's the package price for you to fly it in and install it? On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Michael Esh michael...@me.com wrote: We will pulling the engine in few weeks and hopefully the head will be intact. What is the value of such a head? i am sure it can be discounted for a fellow member. Mike On Jul 21, 2009, at 9:37 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Michael Esh wrote: We ended up towing in on the dolly with rear wheels on the ground for about 150 miles. Did we ruin transmission as well? Well, it does have a rear pump I believe, but I'm sure you did it no favors. If in doubt, remove a flex disk and separate the drive shaft for a trip that long. You didn't hurt Andrew's new head when you blew the engine, did you? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/536112bb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/bd1b276c/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/049483aa/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
Be afraid, be very afraid. The phrase You get what you pay for applies here. 'nuf said publicly. Dan --- On Tue, 7/21/09, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 10:12 AM Adsit sells them rebuilt with a valve job for only $500, plus the core charge. I don't know how they do it and manage to make a profit. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:11 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: What's the package price for you to fly it in and install it? On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Michael Esh michael...@me.com wrote: We will pulling the engine in few weeks and hopefully the head will be intact. What is the value of such a head? i am sure it can be discounted for a fellow member. Mike On Jul 21, 2009, at 9:37 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Michael Esh wrote: We ended up towing in on the dolly with rear wheels on the ground for about 150 miles. Did we ruin transmission as well? Well, it does have a rear pump I believe, but I'm sure you did it no favors. If in doubt, remove a flex disk and separate the drive shaft for a trip that long. You didn't hurt Andrew's new head when you blew the engine, did you? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/536112bb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
Michael Esh wrote: The 85 300TD Wagon is home and we are ready to begin the transfer of engine and such from the the 82. Is there a site that has information on the rear suspension of the wagons that would help us trouble shoot? Ask right here! A few of us are experienced - if not actually experts. --Philip, slowly becoming a W123 wagon master mechanic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
huh? LWB250 wrote: Be afraid, be very afraid. The phrase You get what you pay for applies here. 'nuf said publicly. Dan -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
Ditto. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: huh? LWB250 wrote: Be afraid, be very afraid. The phrase You get what you pay for applies here. 'nuf said publicly. Dan -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090721/b75eca18/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:20:03 -0400 andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Ditto. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: huh? I don't know what you guys missed, but it was very plain to me. Andrew was bragging about Adsit having a rebuilt head at a low price; Dan just commented on the price and the source. LWB250 wrote: Be afraid, be very afraid. The phrase You get what you pay for applies here. 'nuf said publicly. Dan I other words, shall I spell it out?, run away from Adsit as fast as your hairy little legs will carry you. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD - rear suspension
Craig McCluskey wrote: Andrew was bragging about Adsit having a rebuilt head at a low price; Dan just commented on the price and the source. Oooh, I thought Poos was commenting on Andy's request that Mike deliver and install the head off his new parts motor. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
