Re: [MBZ] 4 speed Manual-- 1982 Mercedes 240d,$4,000

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Common in the UK maybe? Jeremy Clarkson always called them Mercs.

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> Anyone who abbreviates Mercedes-Benz to "Merc" should be proscribed from
> ever owning a Mercedes.
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>> Transmission shifts like butter .  LIKE BUTTAH!
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Re: [MBZ] 4 speed Manual-- 1982 Mercedes 240d,$4,000

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I was going to comment on the "5 cylinder 240D" but saw in the pics that it has 
had an engine swap. That's 

I have always heard of the old Mercedes manual transmissions being described 
more like a "broomstick in a bucket of rocks" than "buttah" but never driven 
one myself.

Cosmetically looks kind of rough but might be worth something if it's not rusty.

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Re: [MBZ] 4 speed Manual-- 1982 Mercedes 240d,$4,000

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Anyone who abbreviates Mercedes-Benz to "Merc" should be proscribed from
ever owning a Mercedes.

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[MBZ] 4 speed Manual-- 1982 Mercedes 240d,$4,000

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Transmission shifts like butter .  LIKE BUTTAH!

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Re: [MBZ] 4 speed manual transmission 1979 Mercedes-Benz 240 d, $2, 800

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Great color.

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> This cars are famous for going 1million miles
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> Manual windows 🪟 all working great Power sunroof
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> Doesn't look too bad, not a crazy price considering...
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[MBZ] 4 speed manual transmission 1979 Mercedes-Benz 240 d,$2,800

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This cars are famous for going 1million miles


Manual windows 🪟 all working great Power sunroof

Doesn't look too bad, not a crazy price considering...

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Re: [MBZ] 4 speed manual transmission

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I repaired a steel case 4 speed years ago for a guy.  It was run dry and 
run on 90W hypoid.  Neither are good for it.  I replaced one gear and a 
bunch of synchro rings and some bearings.  It is pretty straightforward 
inside.  Just keep everything in order of disassembly, and watch 
especially for the shims.  Without the shims, the shaft can slide on the 
bearings.  even if you replace bearings, you should not need to check or 
change shims.


As previously posited, it could just be the shift arm has come loose.   
Whether you swap or fix, you will have to R&R.   So, the fastest way 
back to the road is to swap it out, then fix it for a spare, or to 
replace in the donor.


It was a toploader, topshifter, so pretty much like a 4 or 5 spd 
toploader truck trans, only smaller, and the shift mechanism is a bit 
different.


It sounds like yours is a side shift, but still, it should be 
straightforward.



fmiser via Mercedes 
March 11, 2018 at 3:53 PM
I've got troubles with a manual 4-speed in a 240D.

The 1-2 shift arm is _really_ sloppy - and it's in the
transmission NOT the external linkages.

It happened suddenly. All was well, stopped to back into a
parking spot and the shift lever got into the neutral gate but the
transmission was still in 2nd. From underneath I moved the 1-2
linkage into neutral to match the shifter. That meant I could
drive the car home.

Once back at the house I checked the linkage bushings because I
presumed that's where the problem was. It's not. So I had a
helper move the shifter while I looked and it's clearly inside the
transmission. Ugh.

Right now it is so loose that the shifter runs into the dash
before the transmission gets into 1st - or 1st is completely
missing. To get from 2nd to neutral the shifter has to be moved
as far forward as 1st is supposed to be (which is past the
shifters neutral gate) to get out of 2nd, then move the shifter
aft to line it up with the neutral gate.

So any of you have experience inside the 4-speed manual? Or have
a manual for it?



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Re: [MBZ] 4 speed manual transmission

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> OK wrote:

> I'm wondering if the fork isn't turning on the shaft inside the
> tranny. I've never seen the inside of an MB manual tranny, but I
> have rebuilt lots of little English trannies and a couple of
> larger American ones and am guessing that they are similar.

That's kinda what I'm thinking.  I have a couple parts cars with
manual transmissions, so I could just swap.  But this car body is
rusty enough it's about to be unsafe - and the engine keeps running.

I have only had a couple manual transmission failures over the
years.  But unlike every automatic transmission failure I've had
all the manual transmissions have allowed me to drive it home.

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Re: [MBZ] 4 speed manual transmission

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

A quick search of the Peach Parts forum says there is info out there on the 
steel case versions, not so much on the aluminum body versions.
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Re: [MBZ] 4 speed manual transmission

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I'm wondering if the fork isn't turning on the shaft inside the tranny.
I've never seen the inside of an MB manual tranny, but I have rebuilt lots
of little English trannies and a couple of larger American ones and am
guessing that they are similar.

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> I think on the Peach Parts forum, a guy known as Stretch has documented
> his rebuild of a manual transmission, but I think it was out of a 201.
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Re: [MBZ] 4 speed manual transmission

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I think on the Peach Parts forum, a guy known as Stretch has documented his 
rebuild of a manual transmission, but I think it was out of a 201.
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Re: [MBZ] 4 speed manual transmission

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I don’t have a lot of experience with those but I have never heard of problems 
like they before. Seems odd.

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> On Mar 11, 2018, at 3:53 PM, fmiser via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I've got troubles with a manual 4-speed in a 240D.
> 
> The 1-2 shift arm is _really_ sloppy - and it's in the
> transmission NOT the external linkages.  
> 
> It happened suddenly.  All was well, stopped to back into a
> parking spot and the shift lever got into the neutral gate but the
> transmission was still in 2nd.  From underneath I moved the 1-2
> linkage into neutral to match the shifter.  That meant I could
> drive the car home.
> 
> Once back at the house I checked the linkage bushings because I
> presumed that's where the problem was.  It's not.  So I had a
> helper move the shifter while I looked and it's clearly inside the
> transmission.  Ugh.
> 
> Right now it is so loose that the shifter runs into the dash
> before the transmission gets into 1st - or 1st is completely
> missing.  To get from 2nd to neutral the shifter has to be moved
> as far forward as 1st is supposed to be (which is past the
> shifters neutral gate) to get out of 2nd, then move the shifter
> aft to line it up with the neutral gate.
> 
> So any of you have experience inside the 4-speed manual?  Or have
> a manual for it? 
> 
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[MBZ] 4 speed manual transmission

[fmiser via Mercedes]

I've got troubles with a manual 4-speed in a 240D.

The 1-2 shift arm is _really_ sloppy - and it's in the
transmission NOT the external linkages.  

It happened suddenly.  All was well, stopped to back into a
parking spot and the shift lever got into the neutral gate but the
transmission was still in 2nd.  From underneath I moved the 1-2
linkage into neutral to match the shifter.  That meant I could
drive the car home.

Once back at the house I checked the linkage bushings because I
presumed that's where the problem was.  It's not.  So I had a
helper move the shifter while I looked and it's clearly inside the
transmission.  Ugh.

Right now it is so loose that the shifter runs into the dash
before the transmission gets into 1st - or 1st is completely
missing.  To get from 2nd to neutral the shifter has to be moved
as far forward as 1st is supposed to be (which is past the
shifters neutral gate) to get out of 2nd, then move the shifter
aft to line it up with the neutral gate.

So any of you have experience inside the 4-speed manual?  Or have
a manual for it? 


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[MBZ] 4 Speed manual

[clay]

Not mine, no interest, It would be cool if I could drop it into Frosch, but I 
won't

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/pts/3803326243.html



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1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
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