Re: [MBZ] 87 124 pdfs needed

2007-07-08 Thread Loren Faeth
I got it working.  Not sure what was the cause.  I checked out 
everything, and everything checked out, and the last time I put 
humpty together, the compressor turned.  Put 134a in it and we have 
somewhat cool.  (the best you can expect with 134a crap.) I suspect 
Jim C was right, something with the compressor plug.

Loren
Somewhat cool, even in 100 degrees as long as I am on the interstate.
300D

At 02:29 AM 7/7/2007, you wrote:
>Some cars have the safety switches _before_ the
>high-current circuitry, some after (switch in-line
>with the compressor clutch).  The SDL has it before
>the Klima, in the control circuitry.
>
>-- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] 87 124 pdfs needed

2007-07-07 Thread Jim Cathey
Some cars have the safety switches _before_ the
high-current circuitry, some after (switch in-line
with the compressor clutch).  The SDL has it before
the Klima, in the control circuitry.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 87 124 pdfs needed was Klima

2007-06-29 Thread Loren Faeth
I pulled the plug off the compressor, and it has 13+ volts at the 
blue/green wire.  I checked the clutch coil, and it has 4.1 Ohm.  Put 
it all back together again and when I started the car, and the 
compressor ran.  I pulled the Klima jumper and put the relay back in 
and the compressor turned off and on with the push button 
switches.  (Pressure switch jumped)

Whoever did the 134a conversion only put the adapter on the low 
side.  It is leaking at the valve.  I am off to get a new set of 
adapters, and see if I can get a new schrader valve core for the old 
low side fitting.

Loren
87 300D

At 11:03 AM 6/29/2007, you wrote:
> > I need to trace/test the wiring from fuse to compressor, via the
> > Klima, Push buttons, thermostat, pressure switch and safety
> > switch.  I have a good fuse in #7 position and I have 13+v at
> > terminal 5 in the Klima socket.  I have no juice downline, even with
> > the jumper in Klima 5-7 pins.
>
>I don't think there's anything between terminal 7 and the comressor
>but a wire.  Check out its plug end very carefully!
>
>-- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] 87 124 pdfs needed

2007-06-29 Thread Marshall Booth
Loren Faeth wrote:
> It that were the case, then where do the controls come into the 
> circuit?  Are you saying the juice goes to the compressor + and then 
> out from the compressor - and then to all the control circuitry?   If 
> that were the case, they why am I getting juice to the Klima #5 pin?

Power from the fuse goes to pin 5. Pin 7 goes to the clutch. Jump 5 to 7 
and the clutch should engage if it has a path to ground (I think the low 
pressure switch is between the clutch and ground but I'm not sure).

The clutch wiring (pin 7) thru the coil to ground should read 3 ohms if 
the clutch coil and wiring are okay. 2 ohms or lower indicates a shorted 
winding and much above 4 ohms suggests some added resistance or an open 
coil. I have had one coil open and one short internally. Replaced them 
both from old clutches.

Marshall
-- 
Marshall Booth Ph.D.
Ass't Prof. (ret.)
Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
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Re: [MBZ] 87 124 pdfs needed

2007-06-29 Thread Loren Faeth
It that were the case, then where do the controls come into the 
circuit?  Are you saying the juice goes to the compressor + and then 
out from the compressor - and then to all the control circuitry?   If 
that were the case, they why am I getting juice to the Klima #5 pin?

At 11:03 AM 6/29/2007, you wrote:
> > I need to trace/test the wiring from fuse to compressor, via the
> > Klima, Push buttons, thermostat, pressure switch and safety
> > switch.  I have a good fuse in #7 position and I have 13+v at
> > terminal 5 in the Klima socket.  I have no juice downline, even with
> > the jumper in Klima 5-7 pins.
>
>I don't think there's anything between terminal 7 and the comressor
>but a wire.  Check out its plug end very carefully!
>
>-- Jim
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 87 124 pdfs needed

2007-06-29 Thread Jim Cathey
> I need to trace/test the wiring from fuse to compressor, via the
> Klima, Push buttons, thermostat, pressure switch and safety
> switch.  I have a good fuse in #7 position and I have 13+v at
> terminal 5 in the Klima socket.  I have no juice downline, even with
> the jumper in Klima 5-7 pins.

I don't think there's anything between terminal 7 and the comressor
but a wire.  Check out its plug end very carefully!

-- Jim


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[MBZ] 87 124 pdfs needed

2007-06-29 Thread Loren Faeth
Would anyone be kind enough to send me the applicable pdfs  so I can 
track down the Air Conditioning wiring on an 87 300D 124?  I seem to 
have misplaced my cd.  I out it out so I could look up A/C related 
stuff, but now I can't figure out where I put it.

I need to trace/test the wiring from fuse to compressor, via the 
Klima, Push buttons, thermostat, pressure switch and safety 
switch.  I have a good fuse in #7 position and I have 13+v at 
terminal 5 in the Klima socket.  I have no juice downline, even with 
the jumper in Klima 5-7 pins.  I am presuming the circuit is going 
from the fuse to the Klima, and is getting lost after that somewhere.




Loren Faeth
87 300D no a/c
88 300TE, no cool
et al 


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