Re: [MBZ] A new type of fire extinguisher
I remember about 15 years ago, or maybe a bit more, an old Prof at UF was working on something like that including a hand grenade smoke bomb thing for use by firemen who would just pull the pin and throw it into a burning room and the smoke of whatever chemical would put out the fire. Wonder if this came from that idea. Dr. Green, if I recall right, was in his early 20's in the Pacific area during WWII as a navigator with the Army Air Force. While doing that he came up with the first iteration of the E2 flight calculator for the bombers to use. He once showed me the originals that he made. A really interesting character sharp as a tack for all his age at the time. MG Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: That’s what I was thinking. It sure looks like one when they use it. There was some mention of the chemical(s) used in it on their web site. -D On Mar 28, 2020, at 12:12 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: It's a flare, essentially, is it not? One that spews anti-combustants of some form. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A new type of fire extinguisher
No, it's potassium ions and such that bind to the oxygen in the area of the fire. I still don't understand how it can do that and still be no problem to breathe. Like a flair, you can't turn it off once you start it, unlike a traditional fire extinguisher, which is why (besides the price) I won't be getting one. On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:18 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I wonder if the primary product isn't carbon dioxide or some other inert > gas that displaces the oxygen. > - > Max > Charleston SC > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A new type of fire extinguisher
I wonder if the primary product isn't carbon dioxide or some other inert gas that displaces the oxygen. - Max Charleston SC On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 12:15 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > That’s what I was thinking. It sure looks like one when they use it. There > was some mention of the chemical(s) used in it on their web site. > > -D > > > > On Mar 28, 2020, at 12:12 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > It's a flare, essentially, is it not? One that spews anti-combustants > > of some form. > > > > -- Jim > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A new type of fire extinguisher
That’s what I was thinking. It sure looks like one when they use it. There was some mention of the chemical(s) used in it on their web site. -D > On Mar 28, 2020, at 12:12 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > > It's a flare, essentially, is it not? One that spews anti-combustants > of some form. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A new type of fire extinguisher
It's a flare, essentially, is it not? One that spews anti-combustants of some form. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A new type of fire extinguisher
Agreed. However, if you’ve ever dealt with the aftermath of a dry powder extinguisher being used, it’s something to consider. That stuff is super corrosive and will destroy softer metals like aluminum the minute there’s any moisture present. -D > On Mar 28, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Looks like it takes at least one more step to activate than a traditional > fire extinguisher. > > Also takes 2 seconds after completing the activation process before the > extinguisher is ready to go. > > Lastly, in the video, the "fireman" had to get REALLY close to the fire to > put it out. > > Although it is intriguing, I think I'll keep my traditional extinguishers. > - > Max > Charleston SC > > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 3:47 PM Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Ran across this just now: >> >> https://elementfire.com/ >> >> A new type of fire extinguisher which is up to 80% smaller than a >> traditional fire extinguisher and has 5 times the discharge time. >> >> >> Craig >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A new type of fire extinguisher
Looks like it takes at least one more step to activate than a traditional fire extinguisher. Also takes 2 seconds after completing the activation process before the extinguisher is ready to go. Lastly, in the video, the "fireman" had to get REALLY close to the fire to put it out. Although it is intriguing, I think I'll keep my traditional extinguishers. - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 3:47 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > Ran across this just now: > > https://elementfire.com/ > > A new type of fire extinguisher which is up to 80% smaller than a > traditional fire extinguisher and has 5 times the discharge time. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A new type of fire extinguisher
On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 16:16:05 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Hmmm - I wonder if it's safe to use in an enclosed space, like a four > place aircraft cabin at 9,500 feet? Well, the website did mention something about small, enclosed spaces and not using up oxygen ... Craig > On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 2:47 PM Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Ran across this just now: > > > > https://elementfire.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A new type of fire extinguisher
Hmmm - I wonder if it's safe to use in an enclosed space, like a four place aircraft cabin at 9,500 feet? On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 2:47 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > Ran across this just now: > > https://elementfire.com/ > > A new type of fire extinguisher which is up to 80% smaller than a > traditional fire extinguisher and has 5 times the discharge time. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] A new type of fire extinguisher
Ran across this just now: https://elementfire.com/ A new type of fire extinguisher which is up to 80% smaller than a traditional fire extinguisher and has 5 times the discharge time. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
