Re: [MBZ] Airbus - was Super Robot controlled by a smartphone
My beef with airbus is not the ride, it's the landing; they seem to be very difficult to keep in the middle of the air when pushed out of the normal flight profile. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I've ridden a fair amount in Airbus planes the last few years (always keep meaning to keep a log) and I can't really tell any difference comfort-wise between them and a Boeing. A new Airbus is preferable to an old Boeing and vice versa. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Airbus - was Super Robot controlled by a smartphone
Yeah well... I can't tell the difference, there are smooth landings and rough landings and it seems to have more to do with pilot skill than anything else. I've flown into Las Vegas a lot over the last couple years, almost exclusively in 737-700 with Southwest. Generally every other landing is frightening which I think is just the nature of landing in Las Vegas... I've flown in a bunch of Airbus A320s mostly with JetBlue and never seen anything especially positive or negative. I recently flew in an A319, I can't remember the airline and was displeased, it was cramped and stuffy but that probably has more to do with the airline than anything else. -Curt Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 08:59:44 -0400 From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Airbus - was Super Robot controlled by a smartphone Message-ID: a86343fd-fa6c-4e8f-8ef2-bb301fa8b...@email.android.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 My beef with airbus is not the ride, it's the landing; they seem to be very difficult to keep in the middle of the air when pushed out of the normal flight profile. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I've ridden a fair amount in Airbus planes the last few years (always keep meaning to keep a log) and I can't really tell any difference comfort-wise between them and a Boeing. A new Airbus is preferable to an old Boeing and vice versa. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Airbus - was Super Robot controlled by a smartphone
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: Yeah well... I can't tell the difference, there are smooth landings and rough landings and it seems to have more to do with pilot skill than anything else. The computer is landing the plane most of the time, these days. The pilot is just along for the ride, and to get blamed if things go wrong. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Airbus - was Super Robot controlled by a smartphone
According to a friend who is a NWA pilot, hands free landings are against company policy, and are only allowed every so many hours as a part of a check ride. He says they will allow it to take the plane down close to the threshold, but their hands never leave the controls. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 1, 2012, at 6:36 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: Yeah well... I can't tell the difference, there are smooth landings and rough landings and it seems to have more to do with pilot skill than anything else. The computer is landing the plane most of the time, these days. The pilot is just along for the ride, and to get blamed if things go wrong. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Airbus - was Super Robot controlled by a smartphone
Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com writes: According to a friend who is a NWA pilot, hands free landings are against company policy, and are only allowed every so many hours as a part of a check ride. I thought in the Airbus, at least in in normal law the computer is ultimately in control, and will override the pilot if necessary to keep the aircraft in its safe operating envelope. Does this not apply on landing? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Airbus - was Super Robot controlled by a smartphone
I just watched the Smithsonian channel program on air disasters the other night, and they we doing the Airbus crash at the Paris airshow where the A380 (I think) failed to claims out after a low pass and scraped the trees at the end of the runway and subsequently crashed. There was a compelling argument by the pilot that the computer prevented him from climbing out despite going full throttle because it thought it was in landing mode... Dan On Aug 1, 2012, at 6:47 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com writes: According to a friend who is a NWA pilot, hands free landings are against company policy, and are only allowed every so many hours as a part of a check ride. I thought in the Airbus, at least in in normal law the computer is ultimately in control, and will override the pilot if necessary to keep the aircraft in its safe operating envelope. Does this not apply on landing? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Airbus - was Super Robot controlled by a smartphone
Rich Thomas wrote: What could go wrong? Probably not much. Just ask some of the Airbus pilots. Oh, wait - you can't ask them. They're dead. --Philip - I just flew from Naples Italy to Paris on an Air France airbus; was glad to land safely. Flight from Paris to Atlanta was a Boeing 777; VERY nice to ride in that plane. Flight from Atlanta to Charleston was on a DC-9 built in 1978; even THAT was preferable to the Airbus... -Max [did the original thread title make anyone else think of the toy robot in Kentucky Fried Movie?] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Airbus - was Super Robot controlled by a smartphone
I got to fly on a BA 777 right after they came out, it was the second BOS-LHR flight for the airplane. It was brand new, smelled like a new car, and the BA crew were s excited to be on it (it was their airplane!). I spent a good time on the flt chatting them up and getting a tour of a lot of the features of the airplane, while sipping some very old Scotch agricultural products... One of the (very experienced) pilots popped back at one point for something, we got talking too and he was really really excited to be flying it. (I got the impression he might have had a lot of hours flying in Europe in the past). I got an upgrade to First Class, and it was amazing... Airbus no thanks... --R On 7/30/12 6:09 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: What could go wrong? Probably not much. Just ask some of the Airbus pilots. Oh, wait - you can't ask them. They're dead. --Philip - I just flew from Naples Italy to Paris on an Air France airbus; was glad to land safely. Flight from Paris to Atlanta was a Boeing 777; VERY nice to ride in that plane. Flight from Atlanta to Charleston was on a DC-9 built in 1978; even THAT was preferable to the Airbus... -Max [did the original thread title make anyone else think of the toy robot in Kentucky Fried Movie?] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Airbus - was Super Robot controlled by a smartphone
--R wrote: I got to fly on a BA 777 right after they came out... I flew on one of the first 777 in United fleet ORD-DEN. The captain was impressive to hear explain the comparisons with previous airplanes. One comparison was the thrust in the engines - only 2 engines, compared with the 8 engines on the B-52, and lots more thrust. If I recall correctly, that was a promo flight at thanksgiving, first 50 callers got $50 roundtrip fare after lunch t-day return before noon friday, so me and two sons went to Denver to clean gutters on Mom's house. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Airbus - was Super Robot controlled by a smartphone
I've ridden a fair amount in Airbus planes the last few years (always keep meaning to keep a log) and I can't really tell any difference comfort-wise between them and a Boeing. A new Airbus is preferable to an old Boeing and vice versa. My least favorite current ride is an MD-88. I always seem to get seated in the back and they're LOUD. -Curt Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:09:51 -0400 From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Airbus - was Super Robot controlled by a smartphone Message-ID: 010601cd6ea0$0ac2be50$20483af0$@net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Rich Thomas wrote: What could go wrong? Probably not much. Just ask some of the Airbus pilots. Oh, wait - you can't ask them. They're dead. --Philip - I just flew from Naples Italy to Paris on an Air France airbus; was glad to land safely. Flight from Paris to Atlanta was a Boeing 777; VERY nice to ride in that plane. Flight from Atlanta to Charleston was on a DC-9 built in 1978; even THAT was preferable to the Airbus... -Max [did the original thread title make anyone else think of the toy robot in Kentucky Fried Movie?] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
