Re: [MBZ] Approx. 35mpg from an '87 Mercedes 300D TURBO Diesel

2005-09-28 Thread Zeitgeist
No need to adjust the timing for B99, though I've advanced my OM603 2
degrees to 13 degrees ATDC for other purposes.  All of my diesel
powered vehicles have run just fine on B100 with no modifications
whatsoever...except for monitoring the fuel filters for the first few
thousand miles after initial treatment.

On 9/27/05, David Goldsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 PS: Assuming its timed right for petrol diesel, about
 how far forward should the timing be set for B99; or
 did these things have electronic timing control by
 '87?  Thanks again.

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (209k)
'84 300D (204k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (185K)



[MBZ] Approx. 35mpg from an '87 Mercedes 300D TURBO Diesel

2005-09-27 Thread David Goldsmith
Hi, folks.  This is in reference to a Seattle area
craiglist.  The lister claims the car gets approx. 35
mpg (see below).  I'm incredulous - should I be?

DG

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how about 35 mpg give or take. 
 
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Great fuel economy = ?

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Re: [MBZ] Approx. 35mpg from an '87 Mercedes 300D TURBO Diesel

2005-09-27 Thread Marshall Booth

David Goldsmith wrote:

Hi, folks.  This is in reference to a Seattle area
craiglist.  The lister claims the car gets approx. 35
mpg (see below).  I'm incredulous - should I be?


124.133 - maybe downhill with a tail wind (or driving at a steady 35-45 
mph). Dave M sometimes gets 32. A '90s 300D 2.5 can deliver 35 as can a 
'95 E300D


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Re: [MBZ] Approx. 35mpg from an '87 Mercedes 300D TURBO Diesel

2005-09-27 Thread David Goldsmith
I'm going to look @ the car now (though certainly not
going to buy it on the spot) but if you want to text
me your opinion, it's
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Thanks!

DG

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 Hi, folks.  This is in reference to a Seattle area
 craiglist.  The lister claims the car gets approx.
 35
 mpg (see below).  I'm incredulous - should I be?
 
 DG
 
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 how about 35 mpg give or take. 
  
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 Great fuel economy = ?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Approx. 35mpg from an '87 Mercedes 300D TURBO Diesel

2005-09-27 Thread John M McIntosh
I had asked this question about my 92 300TDt and was told, if I might  
summarize, that
getting on average 30 mpg (usa gallon) was a very nice number to  
obtain, I don't see those
number but we are working on it. So 35 mpg seems to be pushing the  
math. 20% rounding error?


epa rating were 25 city, 30 highway, 27 combined

PS ask him for his spreadsheet showing the calculations.


On 27-Sep-05, at 11:35 AM, David Goldsmith wrote:


Hi, folks.  This is in reference to a Seattle area
craiglist.  The lister claims the car gets approx. 35
mpg (see below).  I'm incredulous - should I be?

DG

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   Date:   Tue, 27 Sep 2005 13:45:13 -0400
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how about 35 mpg give or take.

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Great fuel economy = ?

DG
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1992 300TDt  148k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
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Re: [MBZ] Approx. 35mpg from an '87 Mercedes 300D TURBO Diesel

2005-09-27 Thread Kevin
On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 11:35:46AM -0700, David Goldsmith wrote:
 Hi, folks.  This is in reference to a Seattle area
 craiglist.  The lister claims the car gets approx. 35
 mpg (see below).  I'm incredulous - should I be?

Mine is good for 31-32 reliably. Cruising through arizona on I-40 gave a 
best of 34, but this was due to two important factors:
  - high altitude through that area
  - fuel not bought in the people's republic of california specially engineered
to make you burn more fuel so the state can collect more fuel taxes to
fund communism

I have a hard time believing 35 regularly, especially if he spends ANY time
around town (unless he swapped in a 602).

K



Re: [MBZ] Approx. 35mpg from an '87 Mercedes 300D TURBO Diesel

2005-09-27 Thread Dave M.
Yes, you should be incredulous. That number is nearly impossible to
obtain with normal driving. Expect 28-30mpg, maybe a tad more at best.
He is probably estimating, or doing the math wrong. Incorrect tire
size could also affect things. If it's near 30mpg then the engine is
running quite well. When my reserve light turns on around 450 miles
and I generally drive to 500 and fill up (17.x gallons), that usually
equates to 29mpg give or take a few tenths.

I assume you already saw this from the post yesterday, but in case not:
http://www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/articles/124.1x3_buying_tips.txt


:-)

Dave M
Boise, ID


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 Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 11:35:46 -0700 (PDT)
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 Subject: [MBZ] Approx. 35mpg from an '87 Mercedes 300D TURBO Diesel

 Hi, folks.  This is in reference to a Seattle area
 craiglist.  The lister claims the car gets approx. 35
 mpg (see below).  I'm incredulous - should I be?

 DG



Re: [MBZ] Approx. 35mpg from an '87 Mercedes 300D TURBO Diesel

2005-09-27 Thread Gabriel S.
the 124 gets good fuel economy for weighing close to 5,000lbs, but 35mpg is
insane...i never get that much, and if im pushing it, forget it!

On 9/27/05, David Goldsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, folks. This is in reference to a Seattle area
 craiglist. The lister claims the car gets approx. 35
 mpg (see below). I'm incredulous - should I be?

 DG

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 how about 35 mpg give or take.

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 Great fuel economy = ?

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