Re: [MBZ] Crazy W114 on BAT

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On December 24, 2017 at 1:31 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I would still take it.  While it would be a project, retrofitting wouldn’t be 
> that difficult to do.  The parts are still readily available..

Sounds like a good Martha project. 
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Re: [MBZ] Crazy W114 on BAT

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I would still take it.  While it would be a project, retrofitting wouldn’t be 
that difficult to do.  The parts are still readily available.

-D


> On Dec 24, 2017, at 1:29 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> No AC
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Crazy W114 on BAT

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No AC



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 Original message From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 Date: 2017-12-24  9:18 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
List  Cc: Dan Penoff  Subject: Re: 
[MBZ] Crazy W114 on BAT 
Ooops!  Forgot to clear my paste buffer:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-mercedes-benz-250-3/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2017-12-24

-D


> On Dec 24, 2017, at 10:13 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This post is about a 2.5 turbo 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 24, 2017, at 9:08 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> And Jaime takes them to task on originality, too:
>> 
>> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-cars-sale/390563-bluffton-sc-93-300d-2-5-turbo-sale-%241200.html
>> 
>> And I agree with him.  Whoever is flipping this car really failed in the 
>> prep department. The original Becker should have gone back in, the proper 
>> wiper blades fitted, and that G-d sunroof deflector removed.  I rank those 
>> things up there with the chrome fender trim.  I see no purpose for them and 
>> they usually end up damaging the paint.  Grrr.
>> 
>> Looks like it would be a fun car, though.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Crazy W114 on BAT

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I doubt it in that market, unless he had an “in” with the seller’s family.  I’m 
betting he probably paid maybe $5k.  With all the information that’s out there 
these days it’s pretty tough to give something away like that.  If anyone in 
the family had half a brain they looked up values on the interwebs.  And if 
they had an estate lawyer they certainly had the value checked out as well.

-D

  
> On Dec 24, 2017, at 1:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> He probably paid about $2k or less for it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 24, 2017, at 11:50 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> No Reserve: 4 Weeks-Owned 1969 Mercedes-Benz 250 4-Speed 
>> 
>> This 1969 Mercedes-Benz 250 was kept by its original owner for the past 48 
>> years until a flipper bought it at an estate auction in November 2017.
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Re: [MBZ] Crazy W114 on BAT

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

He probably paid about $2k or less for it.

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> On Dec 24, 2017, at 11:50 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
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> No Reserve: 4 Weeks-Owned 1969 Mercedes-Benz 250 4-Speed 
> 
> This 1969 Mercedes-Benz 250 was kept by its original owner for the past 48 
> years until a flipper bought it at an estate auction in November 2017.
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Re: [MBZ] Crazy W114 on BAT

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

No Reserve: 4 Weeks-Owned 1969 Mercedes-Benz 250 4-Speed 

This 1969 Mercedes-Benz 250 was kept by its original owner for the past 48 
years until a flipper bought it at an estate auction in November 2017.

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Re: [MBZ] Crazy W114 on BAT

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

And I’m sure you probably noticed the windshield washer line hanging loose and 
not being clipped to the hood hinge?

I didn’t look any closer at the pictures, as it’s too aggravating.

-D/Martha

> On Dec 24, 2017, at 10:50 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Very good Dan... it'll be interesting to see what they do.  Both sellers
> and BAT seem to make many mistakes about the way cars were offered and
> equipped.  Its frustrating.  Lets see if they like being called out on it.
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] Crazy W114 on BAT

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Heh.  He thanked me.  Go figure.

I chided him about the radio. Idiot.

(Sorry, am I being too harsh?  This sort of detail stuff is so, so simple, it 
makes me crazy when people ignore it.)

-D


> On Dec 24, 2017, at 10:50 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Very good Dan... it'll be interesting to see what they do.  Both sellers
> and BAT seem to make many mistakes about the way cars were offered and
> equipped.  Its frustrating.  Lets see if they like being called out on it.
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] Crazy W114 on BAT

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Very good Dan... it'll be interesting to see what they do.  Both sellers
and BAT seem to make many mistakes about the way cars were offered and
equipped.  Its frustrating.  Lets see if they like being called out on it.

Jaime


On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> I did, and I’m betting I’ll get flagged.  Here’s what I posted so you can
> see it:
>
> @jaimekop  – As a 25+ year
> Mercedes owner of many different models, W114s included, and a seller on
> BAT, I completely agree with you. The whole idea of selling a car like this
> is to maximize value, and do so by maintaining the integrity/authenticity
> of the car. That’s not saying it has to be concourse – it doesn’t – but it
> says a lot about a seller who is clearly flipping the car to a customer
> base of enthusiasts who, like myself, look over things in great detail as a
> part of the car’s value.
>
> The minimal amount of effort necessary to put things right, such as
> reinstalling the (original) Becker radio and sourcing the proper finish
> windshield wiper arms would far outweigh the ding that many discerning
> buyers who have the funds available to purchase such a vehicle would give
> this car. (Myself included.)
>
> It’s a beautiful car for the most part, but when I’m looking to drop
> $10,000+ on a nearly 50 year old car, I’m going to pick nits. It’s also
> revealing as to the seller’s knowledge (or lack thereof) of the car as
> well. I’m not criticizing, I’m just saying that it amazes me that people
> don’t take the time to do a little research before marketing – often time
> that would yield information that would potentially increase the selling
> price….
>
> And for goodness sakes, why are people selling nearly 50 year old cars
> with modern radios in them??? Argh!!
>
>
> Posters on BAT seem to be a lot more aggressive about taking down posts
> that are negative or challenge the sellers these days.  Or is it just me?
>
> -D
>
>
>
> > On Dec 24, 2017, at 10:31 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Dan... back me up with a comment on there, would you?  I'm getting
> > shot down by people who are probably the seller's friends
> >
> > Jaime
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> And Jaime takes them to task on originality, too:
> >>
> >> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-cars-sale/
> >> 390563-bluffton-sc-93-300d-2-5-turbo-sale-%241200.html
> >>
> >> And I agree with him.  Whoever is flipping this car really failed in the
> >> prep department. The original Becker should have gone back in, the
> proper
> >> wiper blades fitted, and that G-d sunroof deflector removed.  I rank
> those
> >> things up there with the chrome fender trim.  I see no purpose for them
> and
> >> they usually end up damaging the paint.  Grrr.
> >>
> >> Looks like it would be a fun car, though.
> >>
> >> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Crazy W114 on BAT

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Hey, look at it this way - at least you’re consistent!

-D


> On Dec 24, 2017, at 10:31 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yet another one of my mistakes. I used to have one of these that was very 
> nice but not quite as nice as this one. Got it from Knutsack back in the day. 
> I ended up selling it but should have kept it. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Crazy W114 on BAT

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I did, and I’m betting I’ll get flagged.  Here’s what I posted so you can see 
it:

@jaimekop  – As a 25+ year Mercedes 
owner of many different models, W114s included, and a seller on BAT, I 
completely agree with you. The whole idea of selling a car like this is to 
maximize value, and do so by maintaining the integrity/authenticity of the car. 
That’s not saying it has to be concourse – it doesn’t – but it says a lot about 
a seller who is clearly flipping the car to a customer base of enthusiasts who, 
like myself, look over things in great detail as a part of the car’s value.

The minimal amount of effort necessary to put things right, such as 
reinstalling the (original) Becker radio and sourcing the proper finish 
windshield wiper arms would far outweigh the ding that many discerning buyers 
who have the funds available to purchase such a vehicle would give this car. 
(Myself included.)

It’s a beautiful car for the most part, but when I’m looking to drop $10,000+ 
on a nearly 50 year old car, I’m going to pick nits. It’s also revealing as to 
the seller’s knowledge (or lack thereof) of the car as well. I’m not 
criticizing, I’m just saying that it amazes me that people don’t take the time 
to do a little research before marketing – often time that would yield 
information that would potentially increase the selling price….

And for goodness sakes, why are people selling nearly 50 year old cars with 
modern radios in them??? Argh!!


Posters on BAT seem to be a lot more aggressive about taking down posts that 
are negative or challenge the sellers these days.  Or is it just me?

-D



> On Dec 24, 2017, at 10:31 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Dan... back me up with a comment on there, would you?  I'm getting
> shot down by people who are probably the seller's friends
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> And Jaime takes them to task on originality, too:
>> 
>> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-cars-sale/
>> 390563-bluffton-sc-93-300d-2-5-turbo-sale-%241200.html
>> 
>> And I agree with him.  Whoever is flipping this car really failed in the
>> prep department. The original Becker should have gone back in, the proper
>> wiper blades fitted, and that G-d sunroof deflector removed.  I rank those
>> things up there with the chrome fender trim.  I see no purpose for them and
>> they usually end up damaging the paint.  Grrr.
>> 
>> Looks like it would be a fun car, though.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Crazy W114 on BAT

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Or people who are just ignorant. 

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> On Dec 24, 2017, at 9:31 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Dan... back me up with a comment on there, would you?  I'm getting
> shot down by people who are probably the seller's friends
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> And Jaime takes them to task on originality, too:
>> 
>> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-cars-sale/
>> 390563-bluffton-sc-93-300d-2-5-turbo-sale-%241200.html
>> 
>> And I agree with him.  Whoever is flipping this car really failed in the
>> prep department. The original Becker should have gone back in, the proper
>> wiper blades fitted, and that G-d sunroof deflector removed.  I rank those
>> things up there with the chrome fender trim.  I see no purpose for them and
>> they usually end up damaging the paint.  Grrr.
>> 
>> Looks like it would be a fun car, though.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Crazy W114 on BAT

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Yet another one of my mistakes. I used to have one of these that was very nice 
but not quite as nice as this one. Got it from Knutsack back in the day. I 
ended up selling it but should have kept it. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 24, 2017, at 9:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Ooops!  Forgot to clear my paste buffer:
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-mercedes-benz-250-3/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2017-12-24
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Dec 24, 2017, at 10:13 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> This post is about a 2.5 turbo 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 24, 2017, at 9:08 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> And Jaime takes them to task on originality, too:
>>> 
>>> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-cars-sale/390563-bluffton-sc-93-300d-2-5-turbo-sale-%241200.html
>>> 
>>> And I agree with him.  Whoever is flipping this car really failed in the 
>>> prep department. The original Becker should have gone back in, the proper 
>>> wiper blades fitted, and that G-d sunroof deflector removed.  I rank those 
>>> things up there with the chrome fender trim.  I see no purpose for them and 
>>> they usually end up damaging the paint.  Grrr.
>>> 
>>> Looks like it would be a fun car, though.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Crazy W114 on BAT

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Thanks Dan... back me up with a comment on there, would you?  I'm getting
shot down by people who are probably the seller's friends

Jaime


On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> And Jaime takes them to task on originality, too:
>
> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-cars-sale/
> 390563-bluffton-sc-93-300d-2-5-turbo-sale-%241200.html
>
> And I agree with him.  Whoever is flipping this car really failed in the
> prep department. The original Becker should have gone back in, the proper
> wiper blades fitted, and that G-d sunroof deflector removed.  I rank those
> things up there with the chrome fender trim.  I see no purpose for them and
> they usually end up damaging the paint.  Grrr.
>
> Looks like it would be a fun car, though.
>
> -D
>
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Re: [MBZ] Crazy W114 on BAT

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I was browsing thru some of the ads on PP and on one of them a guy is trying to 
figure out how much his 79 TD with bad paint is worth and somebody told him 
they like to look at BAT to get some real world values. 

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> On Dec 24, 2017, at 9:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Ooops!  Forgot to clear my paste buffer:
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-mercedes-benz-250-3/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2017-12-24
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Dec 24, 2017, at 10:13 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> This post is about a 2.5 turbo 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 24, 2017, at 9:08 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> And Jaime takes them to task on originality, too:
>>> 
>>> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-cars-sale/390563-bluffton-sc-93-300d-2-5-turbo-sale-%241200.html
>>> 
>>> And I agree with him.  Whoever is flipping this car really failed in the 
>>> prep department. The original Becker should have gone back in, the proper 
>>> wiper blades fitted, and that G-d sunroof deflector removed.  I rank those 
>>> things up there with the chrome fender trim.  I see no purpose for them and 
>>> they usually end up damaging the paint.  Grrr.
>>> 
>>> Looks like it would be a fun car, though.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Crazy W114 on BAT

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Ooops!  Forgot to clear my paste buffer:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-mercedes-benz-250-3/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2017-12-24

-D


> On Dec 24, 2017, at 10:13 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> This post is about a 2.5 turbo 
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>> On Dec 24, 2017, at 9:08 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> And Jaime takes them to task on originality, too:
>> 
>> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-cars-sale/390563-bluffton-sc-93-300d-2-5-turbo-sale-%241200.html
>> 
>> And I agree with him.  Whoever is flipping this car really failed in the 
>> prep department. The original Becker should have gone back in, the proper 
>> wiper blades fitted, and that G-d sunroof deflector removed.  I rank those 
>> things up there with the chrome fender trim.  I see no purpose for them and 
>> they usually end up damaging the paint.  Grrr.
>> 
>> Looks like it would be a fun car, though.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Crazy W114 on BAT

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

This post is about a 2.5 turbo 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 24, 2017, at 9:08 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> And Jaime takes them to task on originality, too:
> 
> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-cars-sale/390563-bluffton-sc-93-300d-2-5-turbo-sale-%241200.html
> 
> And I agree with him.  Whoever is flipping this car really failed in the prep 
> department. The original Becker should have gone back in, the proper wiper 
> blades fitted, and that G-d sunroof deflector removed.  I rank those things 
> up there with the chrome fender trim.  I see no purpose for them and they 
> usually end up damaging the paint.  Grrr.
> 
> Looks like it would be a fun car, though.
> 
> -D
> 
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[MBZ] Crazy W114 on BAT

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

And Jaime takes them to task on originality, too:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-cars-sale/390563-bluffton-sc-93-300d-2-5-turbo-sale-%241200.html

And I agree with him.  Whoever is flipping this car really failed in the prep 
department. The original Becker should have gone back in, the proper wiper 
blades fitted, and that G-d sunroof deflector removed.  I rank those things up 
there with the chrome fender trim.  I see no purpose for them and they usually 
end up damaging the paint.  Grrr.

Looks like it would be a fun car, though.

-D


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