Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs Gas

2008-09-21 Thread andrew strasfogel
Happiness is 5 miles S of Warrenton on VA Rte. 29.  @ $3.75/gal. for fresh
diesel (everywhere else was $4.29 or thereabouts)..

On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> $3.35 and 3.99 before the last hurricane (ike)  they way up for
> gas.  Now $3.35 and 3.89 Still 55cents difference here.still kind of
> a tossup for fuel cost.  But Diesels still win for reliability IMHO
>
> At 12:42 PM 9/21/2008, you wrote:
> >I noticed that the spread is only $0.20 at a station I looked at
> yesterday,.
> >Seems like if was $1.00 not long ago.
> >
> >Anyone think there may be a return to the good ole days?
> >
> >Harry
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs Gas

2008-09-21 Thread Loren Faeth
$3.35 and 3.99 before the last hurricane (ike)  they way up for 
gas.  Now $3.35 and 3.89 Still 55cents difference here.still kind of 
a tossup for fuel cost.  But Diesels still win for reliability IMHO

At 12:42 PM 9/21/2008, you wrote:
>I noticed that the spread is only $0.20 at a station I looked at yesterday,.
>Seems like if was $1.00 not long ago.
>
>Anyone think there may be a return to the good ole days?
>
>Harry
>
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs Gas

2008-09-21 Thread OK Don
I saw the spread at $0.10 early last week, but it was $0.50 yesterday.
I doubt we'll see the good ole days again, but I'm getting more
pessimistic in my old age.

On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 12:42 PM, harry watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I noticed that the spread is only $0.20 at a station I looked at yesterday,.
> Seems like if was $1.00 not long ago.
>
> Anyone think there may be a return to the good ole days?
>
> Harry

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[MBZ] Diesel vs Gas

2008-09-21 Thread harry watkins
I noticed that the spread is only $0.20 at a station I looked at yesterday,. 
Seems like if was $1.00 not long ago.

Anyone think there may be a return to the good ole days?

Harry 


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Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs gas mileage

2007-05-21 Thread Jim Cathey

So, what then does CDI mean as in 320CDI starting in 2005?


I thought we were talking about gasoline.  CDI is a common-
rail DI engine.  Those have a single high-pressure fuel
supply rail and gate-valve injectors, solenoid actuated
I believe.  Those have been around awhile.  The OM352 in
my Unimog is direct injection.  MB has made both DI and IDI
engines forever.  The solenoid control of a CDI engine
allows for multiple small fuel pulses at idle, resulting
in engines that idle nearly as quietly as gasoline engines.

What they choose to sell in the USA is all about our charming
marketdroids and not about the the technology.  As a datapoint
about the industry, it is useless.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs gas mileage

2007-05-21 Thread Jeff Zedic

Common rail direct injection.it's been out here since 98. There's a
new-ish gasoline injection system called FSI or something. Uses a direct
injection principle I thinksupposed to improve fuel economy
somewhatdon't know much about it but I see it around often.

Jeff Zedic


Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs gas mileage

2007-05-21 Thread John Freer

So, what then does CDI mean as in 320CDI starting in 2005?

On 5/20/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ... next year when MB's direct injection engines appear.
> They are a little late to the party, as usual.

The party that started in the 50's with the 300SL?
Wasn't it DI gas?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs gas mileage

2007-05-21 Thread Jim Cathey

... next year when MB's direct injection engines appear.
They are a little late to the party, as usual.


The party that started in the 50's with the 300SL?
Wasn't it DI gas?

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs gas mileage

2007-05-21 Thread RELNGSON
<>

You are right. How I came up with that percentage is beyond me. Which makes 
those gas engines of the period look even worse. The present 20% separation 
will be narrowed next year when MB's direct injection engines appear. They are 
a 
little late to the party, as usual.

RLE
>                       
> 




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[MBZ] Diesel vs. Gas

2005-08-16 Thread Donald Snook
Larry wrote:

 

Thanks for the suggestions about my question of buying a used E320 Vs a 

E300D.

 

Now that the discussion has turned into a comparision of gas Vs diesel 

prices I guess I'll report on the prices around here (Va) - unleaded gas
is 

around $2.45 with diesel even higher at $2.49.

 

Still not sure what I'll do with the E320 Vs E300D question.  Losing
.$.05 

cents per gallon plus a $5k lower purchase price makes the E320
attractive 

until I consider repair prices.  I'm confident I can work on the diesel
but 

I'm not so sure about the gas engine.

 

Maybe I'll flip a coin.  Even though deep down I *know* the diesel is
the 

smart purchase in the long run even *with* a premium on the fuel...

 

Thanks again --

 

Sincerely,

Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)

 

Doesn't the E320 require premium?   If so, how much difference does it
really make Premium Unleaded vs. Diesel?  

 

Around my neck of the woods Diesel is much more expensive then a year
ago, but it is still cheaper by a few cents than premium. 

 

 

I still think it is a no-brainer get the Diesel 

 

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Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs. Gas

2005-08-16 Thread andrew strasfogel
Federal incentives promote biodiesel

U.S. biodiesel production is expected to double this year as a direct
result of lofty oil prices and increasing government support, industry
officials said this week.

Energy Department officials said biodiesel could make up 10 percent of
U.S. fuel within a decade. That percentage would put consumption at
about 5 billion gallons per year, said Amber Thurlo Pearson,
spokeswoman for the National Biodiesel Board.

However, without government incentives, biodiesel is much more costly
to produce. Depending on the material used, the fuel could cost 75
cents to a dollar more per gallon than petrodiesel, some analysts
said. Energy legislation enacted earlier this month sustained tax
credits for fuel distributors who blend biodiesel with petrodiesel and
fuel stations that have biodiesel pumps available to customers.

"The tax incentives go a long way toward making biodiesel competitive,
and the high oil prices really do help," said Leland Tong, an energy
consultant with Marc-IV Consulting in Kansas City, Mo., who works with
the National Biodiesel Board. Further government regulations effective
next year will mandate diesel producers limit sulfur in oil to 97
percent, further encouraging the use of biodiesel.

In March, seven Energy Plus 24 stations in Indiana began carrying B-5,
a fuel blended from 5 percent biodiesel and 95 percent regular diesel.
Twenty-seven Kentucky retailers also offer biodiesel blends (E&ENews
PM, Aug. 5).

With an increased demand and a market price similar to oil, industry
officials and scientists alike are exploring newer ways to produce and
market biodiesel.

Researchers at Capital Technologies International in Pittsburgh are
developing a process for producing biodiesel fuel that results in few
emissions. The group will use plant and animal oils from partner
Valley Proteins as well as waste from area restaurants to infuse
diesel. Capital Technologies chief executive officer Richard Jackson
said that their technology "is better, cheaper, faster and safer,"
than other biodiesel programs.

Processing will begin next year at Valley Proteins retired Neville
Island plant, officials said (Pamela Gaynor, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette,
Aug. 16). -- RLG



On 8/16/05, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Like I said, IT'S ALL CLINTON'S FAULT!!!
> 
> On 8/16/05, Gabriel S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Seems like California always gets screwed becase we
> > can afford it?
> >
> > --- Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > diesel here was $2.50/gal on saturday.
> > >
> > > On 8/15/05, Gabriel S.
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I feel your pain paul...i took a trip to the napa
> > > > valley this weekend got reamed for fuel...i never
> > > > noticed the increase in diesel price until now!
> > > > --- LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > No, Kleb ... buy stock in or open your own
> > > GreaseCar
> > > > > franchise.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/13/05, Kaleb C. Striplin
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > holy crap. Oh well folks, get ready for the
> > > end
> > > > > times.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Paul Raheb wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Last week I filled up with Diesel at $2.79.
> > > > > > > TODAY I  *S.A.B.* WHEN I FILLED UP WITH
> > > DIESEL
> > > > > AT $3.15/gal.
> > > > > > > OTHER FREEWAY CLOSE LOCATIONS ARE
> > > CONVENIENCE
> > > > > PRICED AT $3.29 to $3.39/gal.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Paul
> > > > > > > Visalia, CA
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1985 300TD-T "Mommy Wagon"
> > > > > > > 1984 300D-T "Hot Rod"
> > > > > > > PaulRaheb(at)comcast.net
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > >>Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:25:48 +
> > > > > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > >>Subject: Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 95
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Message: 4
> > > > > > >>Date: Sat, 13 Au

Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs. Gas

2005-08-16 Thread andrew strasfogel
Like I said, IT'S ALL CLINTON'S FAULT!!!

On 8/16/05, Gabriel S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Seems like California always gets screwed becase we
> can afford it?
> 
> --- Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > diesel here was $2.50/gal on saturday.
> >
> > On 8/15/05, Gabriel S.
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I feel your pain paul...i took a trip to the napa
> > > valley this weekend got reamed for fuel...i never
> > > noticed the increase in diesel price until now!
> > > --- LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > No, Kleb ... buy stock in or open your own
> > GreaseCar
> > > > franchise.
> > > >
> > > > On 8/13/05, Kaleb C. Striplin
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > holy crap. Oh well folks, get ready for the
> > end
> > > > times.
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul Raheb wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Last week I filled up with Diesel at $2.79.
> > > > > > TODAY I  *S.A.B.* WHEN I FILLED UP WITH
> > DIESEL
> > > > AT $3.15/gal.
> > > > > > OTHER FREEWAY CLOSE LOCATIONS ARE
> > CONVENIENCE
> > > > PRICED AT $3.29 to $3.39/gal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Paul
> > > > > > Visalia, CA
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1985 300TD-T "Mommy Wagon"
> > > > > > 1984 300D-T "Hot Rod"
> > > > > > PaulRaheb(at)comcast.net
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >>Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:25:48 +
> > > > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >>Subject: Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 95
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Message: 4
> > > > > >>Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 15:04:31 -0400
> > > > > >>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >>Subject: [MBZ] Diesel Vs Gas Choice
> > > > > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >>Message-ID:
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed;
> > > > charset="iso-8859-1";
> > > > > >>reply-type=original
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Hi All,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Normally,  this would be a no-brainer - I'd
> > buy
> > > > the diesel -  but with the
> > > > > >>increase in diesel fuel and the price
> > > > differential between E300Ds and
> > > > > >>comparable E320s,  I'm having trouble seeing
> > the
> > > > best car to buy.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Here's the deal:  my wife has a 4 day/week,
> > 100
> > > > mile round trip commute.
> > > > > >>She wants something safe, comfortable and
> > > > economical for the drive.  My 1st
> > > > > >>choice is a 96-99 E300D but they're pretty
> > > > scarce and when I find one they
> > > > > >>have a ~ $5000 premium over a comparable gas
> > > > E320.  Also, the price of
> > > > > >>diesel keeps going up and last I checked was
> > > > around $2.40 - $2.50.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>So, I have to factor in:
> > > > > >>  -- the rising cost of diesel fuel (of
> > course,
> > > > gas is getting really high
> > > > > >>also)
> > > > > >>  -- the price premium for Gas Vs. Diesel
> > > > vehicles
> > > > > >>  -- the expected higher maintanence costs
> > for
> > > > the Gas engine
> > > > > >>  -- the longer lifespan & reduced maint of
> > a
> > > > diesel
> > > > > >>  -- most 96-99 E300Ds are high mileage.
> > > > > >>  -- ?? Anything else I've forgotten?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>What do ya'll think???  Should I consider a
> > E320
> > > > or keep looking for

Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs. Gas

2005-08-16 Thread Gabriel S.
Seems like California always gets screwed becase we
can afford it?

--- Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> diesel here was $2.50/gal on saturday.
> 
> On 8/15/05, Gabriel S.
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I feel your pain paul...i took a trip to the napa
> > valley this weekend got reamed for fuel...i never
> > noticed the increase in diesel price until now!
> > --- LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > No, Kleb ... buy stock in or open your own
> GreaseCar
> > > franchise.
> > >
> > > On 8/13/05, Kaleb C. Striplin
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > holy crap. Oh well folks, get ready for the
> end
> > > times.
> > > >
> > > > Paul Raheb wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Last week I filled up with Diesel at $2.79.
> > > > > TODAY I  *S.A.B.* WHEN I FILLED UP WITH
> DIESEL
> > > AT $3.15/gal.
> > > > > OTHER FREEWAY CLOSE LOCATIONS ARE
> CONVENIENCE
> > > PRICED AT $3.29 to $3.39/gal.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul
> > > > > Visalia, CA
> > > > >
> > > > > 1985 300TD-T "Mommy Wagon"
> > > > > 1984 300D-T "Hot Rod"
> > > > > PaulRaheb(at)comcast.net
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >>Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:25:48 +
> > > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >>Subject: Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 95
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Message: 4
> > > > >>Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 15:04:31 -0400
> > > > >>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >>Subject: [MBZ] Diesel Vs Gas Choice
> > > > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >>Message-ID:
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed;
> > > charset="iso-8859-1";
> > > > >>reply-type=original
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Hi All,
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Normally,  this would be a no-brainer - I'd
> buy
> > > the diesel -  but with the
> > > > >>increase in diesel fuel and the price
> > > differential between E300Ds and
> > > > >>comparable E320s,  I'm having trouble seeing
> the
> > > best car to buy.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Here's the deal:  my wife has a 4 day/week,
> 100
> > > mile round trip commute.
> > > > >>She wants something safe, comfortable and
> > > economical for the drive.  My 1st
> > > > >>choice is a 96-99 E300D but they're pretty
> > > scarce and when I find one they
> > > > >>have a ~ $5000 premium over a comparable gas
> > > E320.  Also, the price of
> > > > >>diesel keeps going up and last I checked was
> > > around $2.40 - $2.50.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>So, I have to factor in:
> > > > >>  -- the rising cost of diesel fuel (of
> course,
> > > gas is getting really high
> > > > >>also)
> > > > >>  -- the price premium for Gas Vs. Diesel
> > > vehicles
> > > > >>  -- the expected higher maintanence costs
> for
> > > the Gas engine
> > > > >>  -- the longer lifespan & reduced maint of
> a
> > > diesel
> > > > >>  -- most 96-99 E300Ds are high mileage.
> > > > >>  -- ?? Anything else I've forgotten?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>What do ya'll think???  Should I consider a
> E320
> > > or keep looking for a
> > > > >>reasonable 96-99 E300D
> > > > >>Thanks for your insight,
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs. Gas

2005-08-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Its way out of control.  Its been going up 10 cents every couple of days 
here lately.  It really sucks when you drive 200+ miles per day, 5-6 
days a week.  Im giving some serious thought to quiting my autotrader 
job and contrating more on parting out cars.


OK Don wrote:


Diesel is $2.44 and unleaded is $2.48 in OKC today.

On 8/15/05, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


diesel here was $2.50/gal on saturday.







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Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs. Gas

2005-08-16 Thread OK Don
Diesel is $2.44 and unleaded is $2.48 in OKC today.

On 8/15/05, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> diesel here was $2.50/gal on saturday.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs. Gas

2005-08-15 Thread Sunil Hari
diesel here was $2.50/gal on saturday.

On 8/15/05, Gabriel S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I feel your pain paul...i took a trip to the napa
> valley this weekend got reamed for fuel...i never
> noticed the increase in diesel price until now!
> --- LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > No, Kleb ... buy stock in or open your own GreaseCar
> > franchise.
> >
> > On 8/13/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > holy crap. Oh well folks, get ready for the end
> > times.
> > >
> > > Paul Raheb wrote:
> > >
> > > > Last week I filled up with Diesel at $2.79.
> > > > TODAY I  *S.A.B.* WHEN I FILLED UP WITH DIESEL
> > AT $3.15/gal.
> > > > OTHER FREEWAY CLOSE LOCATIONS ARE CONVENIENCE
> > PRICED AT $3.29 to $3.39/gal.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > > Visalia, CA
> > > >
> > > > 1985 300TD-T "Mommy Wagon"
> > > > 1984 300D-T "Hot Rod"
> > > > PaulRaheb(at)comcast.net
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:25:48 +
> > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>Subject: Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 95
> > > >>
> > > >>Message: 4
> > > >>Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 15:04:31 -0400
> > > >>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>Subject: [MBZ] Diesel Vs Gas Choice
> > > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>Message-ID:
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed;
> > charset="iso-8859-1";
> > > >>reply-type=original
> > > >>
> > > >>Hi All,
> > > >>
> > > >>Normally,  this would be a no-brainer - I'd buy
> > the diesel -  but with the
> > > >>increase in diesel fuel and the price
> > differential between E300Ds and
> > > >>comparable E320s,  I'm having trouble seeing the
> > best car to buy.
> > > >>
> > > >>Here's the deal:  my wife has a 4 day/week, 100
> > mile round trip commute.
> > > >>She wants something safe, comfortable and
> > economical for the drive.  My 1st
> > > >>choice is a 96-99 E300D but they're pretty
> > scarce and when I find one they
> > > >>have a ~ $5000 premium over a comparable gas
> > E320.  Also, the price of
> > > >>diesel keeps going up and last I checked was
> > around $2.40 - $2.50.
> > > >>
> > > >>So, I have to factor in:
> > > >>  -- the rising cost of diesel fuel (of course,
> > gas is getting really high
> > > >>also)
> > > >>  -- the price premium for Gas Vs. Diesel
> > vehicles
> > > >>  -- the expected higher maintanence costs for
> > the Gas engine
> > > >>  -- the longer lifespan & reduced maint of a
> > diesel
> > > >>  -- most 96-99 E300Ds are high mileage.
> > > >>  -- ?? Anything else I've forgotten?
> > > >>
> > > >>What do ya'll think???  Should I consider a E320
> > or keep looking for a
> > > >>reasonable 96-99 E300D
> > > >>Thanks for your insight,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ___
> > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > For new parts see www.buymbparts.com
> > > > For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com
> > > >
> > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
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> >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
> > >   89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
> > >   85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
> > >   76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
> > > Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
> > >
> > > ___
> > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > For new parts see www.buymbparts.com
> > > For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com
> > >
> > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
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> >
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> > >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
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> 
> 
> Gabriel S.
> 1987 300D
> Southern California
> 230K+
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs. Gas

2005-08-15 Thread Gabriel S.
I feel your pain paul...i took a trip to the napa
valley this weekend got reamed for fuel...i never
noticed the increase in diesel price until now!
--- LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> No, Kleb ... buy stock in or open your own GreaseCar
> franchise. 
> 
> On 8/13/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > holy crap. Oh well folks, get ready for the end
> times.
> > 
> > Paul Raheb wrote:
> > 
> > > Last week I filled up with Diesel at $2.79.
> > > TODAY I  *S.A.B.* WHEN I FILLED UP WITH DIESEL
> AT $3.15/gal.
> > > OTHER FREEWAY CLOSE LOCATIONS ARE CONVENIENCE
> PRICED AT $3.29 to $3.39/gal.
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul
> > > Visalia, CA
> > >
> > > 1985 300TD-T "Mommy Wagon"
> > > 1984 300D-T "Hot Rod"
> > > PaulRaheb(at)comcast.net
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:25:48 +
> > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>Subject: Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 95
> > >>
> > >>Message: 4
> > >>Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 15:04:31 -0400
> > >>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>Subject: [MBZ] Diesel Vs Gas Choice
> > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>Message-ID:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed;
> charset="iso-8859-1";
> > >>reply-type=original
> > >>
> > >>Hi All,
> > >>
> > >>Normally,  this would be a no-brainer - I'd buy
> the diesel -  but with the
> > >>increase in diesel fuel and the price
> differential between E300Ds and
> > >>comparable E320s,  I'm having trouble seeing the
> best car to buy.
> > >>
> > >>Here's the deal:  my wife has a 4 day/week, 100
> mile round trip commute.
> > >>She wants something safe, comfortable and
> economical for the drive.  My 1st
> > >>choice is a 96-99 E300D but they're pretty
> scarce and when I find one they
> > >>have a ~ $5000 premium over a comparable gas
> E320.  Also, the price of
> > >>diesel keeps going up and last I checked was
> around $2.40 - $2.50.
> > >>
> > >>So, I have to factor in:
> > >>  -- the rising cost of diesel fuel (of course,
> gas is getting really high
> > >>also)
> > >>  -- the price premium for Gas Vs. Diesel
> vehicles
> > >>  -- the expected higher maintanence costs for
> the Gas engine
> > >>  -- the longer lifespan & reduced maint of a
> diesel
> > >>  -- most 96-99 E300Ds are high mileage.
> > >>  -- ?? Anything else I've forgotten?
> > >>
> > >>What do ya'll think???  Should I consider a E320
> or keep looking for a
> > >>reasonable 96-99 E300D
> > >>Thanks for your insight,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ___
> > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > For new parts see www.buymbparts.com
> > > For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com
> > >
> > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > >
>
http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > --
> > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
> >   89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
> >   85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
> >   76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
> > Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
> > 
> > ___
> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > For new parts see www.buymbparts.com
> > For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com
> > 
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >
>
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> > 
> 
> 
> -- 
> If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
> 
> ___
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> For new parts see www.buymbparts.com
> For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Vs Gas Choice

2005-08-14 Thread Russ Williams

Thursday Diesel at my fav station was $2.159 Unleaded was $2.249.
Friday Diesel went to $2.369 Unleaded to $2.399

Ouch

SO drives 100 + a day and right now until I get her new 240D Vacuum
problems fixed I'm putting about 200+ on my 240D.
Some IDIOT Indy that the PO used decided to remove all the Vacuum lines
off the Throttle controller so the Tranny does wired things. Got a 
replacement

set at the PnP Friday but didn't have time to install them yesterday.
Car has been setting up for 6 mts.
White Exterior Red MBTex interior in Good shape. No Rust
Owner is now in an Assisted Care Fac. Gave the car to Daughter to do
what she wanted. Had a 3 Grand price tag on it. Talked them down to
2 Grand.
Drives good will need shocks in the near future.
A/C (134a) needs belt but did blow cold air before Old belt broke while
I was test driving. All the belts need replacement.

Monday New Oil and filter change and belts then SO can drive to her heart
content.

Russ W.
'83 240D 278k mi
'83 240D 135k mi

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

did you all just go up again today?  We went up to 2.39 for gas here and 
I heard earlier that they just went up to 2.49 in tulsa.


 





Re: [MBZ] Diesel Vs Gas Choice

2005-08-14 Thread TimothyPilgrim
I filled my bike up yesterday and, for the first time ever, paid more
than $1 per litre for gasoline.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 8/14/05, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, today. At one point today my station had diesel for $2.399 and a
> block away it was $2.499. Unfortunately I had a full tank and couldn't
> take advantage.
> 
> On 8/13/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > did you all just go up again today?  We went up to 2.39 for gas here and
> > I heard earlier that they just went up to 2.49 in tulsa.
> >
> > OK Don wrote:
> >
> > > Regular gas is $2.46 and Diesel is $2.38 today - looks to me that the
> > > prices have reversed.
> > > Buy the Diesel!
> > >
> > > On 8/13/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >>Hi All,
> > >>
> > >>Normally,  this would be a no-brainer - I'd buy the diesel -  but with the
> > >>increase in diesel fuel and the price differential between E300Ds and
> > >>comparable E320s,  I'm having trouble seeing the best car to buy.
> > >>
> > >>Here's the deal:  my wife has a 4 day/week, 100 mile round trip commute.
> > >>She wants something safe, comfortable and economical for the drive.  My 
> > >>1st
> > >>choice is a 96-99 E300D but they're pretty scarce and when I find one they
> > >>have a ~ $5000 premium over a comparable gas E320.  Also, the price of
> > >>diesel keeps going up and last I checked was around $2.40 - $2.50.
> > >>
> > >>So, I have to factor in:
> > >>-- the rising cost of diesel fuel (of course, gas is getting really 
> > >> high
> > >>also)
> > >>-- the price premium for Gas Vs. Diesel vehicles
> > >>-- the expected higher maintanence costs for the Gas engine
> > >>-- the longer lifespan & reduced maint of a diesel
> > >>-- most 96-99 E300Ds are high mileage.
> > >>-- ?? Anything else I've forgotten?
> > >>
> > >>What do ya'll think???  Should I consider a E320 or keep looking for a
> > >>reasonable 96-99 E300D
> > >>Thanks for your insight,
> > >>
> > >>Sincerely,
> > >>Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
> > >>A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
> > >>For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
> > >>Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
> > >>http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>___
> > >>For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>For new parts see www.buymbparts.com
> > >>For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com
> > >>
> > >>To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > >>http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
> >   89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
> >   85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
> >   76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
> > Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
> >
> > ___
> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > For new parts see www.buymbparts.com
> > For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
> >
> 
> 
> --
> If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
> 
> ___
> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> For new parts see www.buymbparts.com
> For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs. Gas

2005-08-14 Thread Steve MacSween
OMG, first Kaleb starts up mailing lists, now he's turning into a preacher!

When's your first TV spot?

Mac

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> holy crap. Oh well folks, get ready for the end times.
> 
> Paul Raheb wrote:
> 
>> Last week I filled up with Diesel at $2.79.
>> TODAY I  *S.A.B.* WHEN I FILLED UP WITH DIESEL AT $3.15/gal.
>> OTHER FREEWAY CLOSE LOCATIONS ARE CONVENIENCE PRICED AT $3.29 to $3.39/gal.
>> 
>> 
>> Paul
>> Visalia, CA
>> 
>> 1985 300TD-T "Mommy Wagon"
>> 1984 300D-T "Hot Rod"
>> PaulRaheb(at)comcast.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:25:48 +
>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Subject: Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 95
>>> 
>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 15:04:31 -0400
>>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: [MBZ] Diesel Vs Gas Choice
>>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=original
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> Normally,  this would be a no-brainer - I'd buy the diesel -  but with the
>>> increase in diesel fuel and the price differential between E300Ds and
>>> comparable E320s,  I'm having trouble seeing the best car to buy.
>>> 
>>> Here's the deal:  my wife has a 4 day/week, 100 mile round trip commute.
>>> She wants something safe, comfortable and economical for the drive.  My 1st
>>> choice is a 96-99 E300D but they're pretty scarce and when I find one they
>>> have a ~ $5000 premium over a comparable gas E320.  Also, the price of
>>> diesel keeps going up and last I checked was around $2.40 - $2.50.
>>> 
>>> So, I have to factor in:
>>> -- the rising cost of diesel fuel (of course, gas is getting really high
>>> also)
>>> -- the price premium for Gas Vs. Diesel vehicles
>>> -- the expected higher maintanence costs for the Gas engine
>>> -- the longer lifespan & reduced maint of a diesel
>>> -- most 96-99 E300Ds are high mileage.
>>> -- ?? Anything else I've forgotten?
>>> 
>>> What do ya'll think???  Should I consider a E320 or keep looking for a
>>> reasonable 96-99 E300D
>>> Thanks for your insight,
>> 
>> 
>> 





Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs. Gas

2005-08-14 Thread LT Don
No, Kleb ... buy stock in or open your own GreaseCar franchise. 

On 8/13/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> holy crap. Oh well folks, get ready for the end times.
> 
> Paul Raheb wrote:
> 
> > Last week I filled up with Diesel at $2.79.
> > TODAY I  *S.A.B.* WHEN I FILLED UP WITH DIESEL AT $3.15/gal.
> > OTHER FREEWAY CLOSE LOCATIONS ARE CONVENIENCE PRICED AT $3.29 to $3.39/gal.
> >
> >
> > Paul
> > Visalia, CA
> >
> > 1985 300TD-T "Mommy Wagon"
> > 1984 300D-T "Hot Rod"
> > PaulRaheb(at)comcast.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:25:48 +
> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 95
> >>
> >>Message: 4
> >>Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 15:04:31 -0400
> >>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Subject: [MBZ] Diesel Vs Gas Choice
> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> >>reply-type=original
> >>
> >>Hi All,
> >>
> >>Normally,  this would be a no-brainer - I'd buy the diesel -  but with the
> >>increase in diesel fuel and the price differential between E300Ds and
> >>comparable E320s,  I'm having trouble seeing the best car to buy.
> >>
> >>Here's the deal:  my wife has a 4 day/week, 100 mile round trip commute.
> >>She wants something safe, comfortable and economical for the drive.  My 1st
> >>choice is a 96-99 E300D but they're pretty scarce and when I find one they
> >>have a ~ $5000 premium over a comparable gas E320.  Also, the price of
> >>diesel keeps going up and last I checked was around $2.40 - $2.50.
> >>
> >>So, I have to factor in:
> >>  -- the rising cost of diesel fuel (of course, gas is getting really high
> >>also)
> >>  -- the price premium for Gas Vs. Diesel vehicles
> >>  -- the expected higher maintanence costs for the Gas engine
> >>  -- the longer lifespan & reduced maint of a diesel
> >>  -- most 96-99 E300Ds are high mileage.
> >>  -- ?? Anything else I've forgotten?
> >>
> >>What do ya'll think???  Should I consider a E320 or keep looking for a
> >>reasonable 96-99 E300D
> >>Thanks for your insight,
> >
> >
> >
> > ___
> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > For new parts see www.buymbparts.com
> > For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
> >
> >
> >
> 
> --
> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>   89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
>   85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
>   76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
> Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
> 
> ___
> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Vs Gas Choice

2005-08-14 Thread LT Don
Yes, today. At one point today my station had diesel for $2.399 and a
block away it was $2.499. Unfortunately I had a full tank and couldn't
take advantage.

On 8/13/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> did you all just go up again today?  We went up to 2.39 for gas here and
> I heard earlier that they just went up to 2.49 in tulsa.
> 
> OK Don wrote:
> 
> > Regular gas is $2.46 and Diesel is $2.38 today - looks to me that the
> > prices have reversed.
> > Buy the Diesel!
> >
> > On 8/13/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>Hi All,
> >>
> >>Normally,  this would be a no-brainer - I'd buy the diesel -  but with the
> >>increase in diesel fuel and the price differential between E300Ds and
> >>comparable E320s,  I'm having trouble seeing the best car to buy.
> >>
> >>Here's the deal:  my wife has a 4 day/week, 100 mile round trip commute.
> >>She wants something safe, comfortable and economical for the drive.  My 1st
> >>choice is a 96-99 E300D but they're pretty scarce and when I find one they
> >>have a ~ $5000 premium over a comparable gas E320.  Also, the price of
> >>diesel keeps going up and last I checked was around $2.40 - $2.50.
> >>
> >>So, I have to factor in:
> >>-- the rising cost of diesel fuel (of course, gas is getting really high
> >>also)
> >>-- the price premium for Gas Vs. Diesel vehicles
> >>-- the expected higher maintanence costs for the Gas engine
> >>-- the longer lifespan & reduced maint of a diesel
> >>-- most 96-99 E300Ds are high mileage.
> >>-- ?? Anything else I've forgotten?
> >>
> >>What do ya'll think???  Should I consider a E320 or keep looking for a
> >>reasonable 96-99 E300D
> >>Thanks for your insight,
> >>
> >>Sincerely,
> >>Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
> >>A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
> >>For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
> >>Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
> >>http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info
> >>
> >>
> >>___
> >>For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>For new parts see www.buymbparts.com
> >>For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com
> >>
> >>To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >>http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> 
> --
> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>   89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
>   85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
>   76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
> Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
> 
> ___
> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> For new parts see www.buymbparts.com
> For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
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> 


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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Vs Gas Choice

2005-08-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
did you all just go up again today?  We went up to 2.39 for gas here and 
I heard earlier that they just went up to 2.49 in tulsa.


OK Don wrote:


Regular gas is $2.46 and Diesel is $2.38 today - looks to me that the
prices have reversed.
Buy the Diesel!

On 8/13/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi All,

Normally,  this would be a no-brainer - I'd buy the diesel -  but with the
increase in diesel fuel and the price differential between E300Ds and
comparable E320s,  I'm having trouble seeing the best car to buy.

Here's the deal:  my wife has a 4 day/week, 100 mile round trip commute.
She wants something safe, comfortable and economical for the drive.  My 1st
choice is a 96-99 E300D but they're pretty scarce and when I find one they
have a ~ $5000 premium over a comparable gas E320.  Also, the price of
diesel keeps going up and last I checked was around $2.40 - $2.50.

So, I have to factor in:
   -- the rising cost of diesel fuel (of course, gas is getting really high
also)
   -- the price premium for Gas Vs. Diesel vehicles
   -- the expected higher maintanence costs for the Gas engine
   -- the longer lifespan & reduced maint of a diesel
   -- most 96-99 E300Ds are high mileage.
   -- ?? Anything else I've forgotten?

What do ya'll think???  Should I consider a E320 or keep looking for a
reasonable 96-99 E300D
Thanks for your insight,

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info


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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts



Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs. Gas

2005-08-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

holy crap. Oh well folks, get ready for the end times.

Paul Raheb wrote:


Last week I filled up with Diesel at $2.79.
TODAY I  *S.A.B.* WHEN I FILLED UP WITH DIESEL AT $3.15/gal.
OTHER FREEWAY CLOSE LOCATIONS ARE CONVENIENCE PRICED AT $3.29 to $3.39/gal.


Paul
Visalia, CA

1985 300TD-T "Mommy Wagon"
1984 300D-T "Hot Rod"
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Subject: [MBZ] Diesel Vs Gas Choice
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Hi All,

Normally,  this would be a no-brainer - I'd buy the diesel -  but with the
increase in diesel fuel and the price differential between E300Ds and
comparable E320s,  I'm having trouble seeing the best car to buy.

Here's the deal:  my wife has a 4 day/week, 100 mile round trip commute.
She wants something safe, comfortable and economical for the drive.  My 1st
choice is a 96-99 E300D but they're pretty scarce and when I find one they
have a ~ $5000 premium over a comparable gas E320.  Also, the price of
diesel keeps going up and last I checked was around $2.40 - $2.50.

So, I have to factor in:
 -- the rising cost of diesel fuel (of course, gas is getting really high
also)
 -- the price premium for Gas Vs. Diesel vehicles
 -- the expected higher maintanence costs for the Gas engine
 -- the longer lifespan & reduced maint of a diesel
 -- most 96-99 E300Ds are high mileage.
 -- ?? Anything else I've forgotten?

What do ya'll think???  Should I consider a E320 or keep looking for a
reasonable 96-99 E300D
Thanks for your insight,




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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Vs Gas Choice

2005-08-14 Thread LT Don
In my small Iowa town, regular gas and diesel were the same price
(2.399). Today diesel jumped a dime and regular gas jumped fifteen
cents. Gas and diesel were the same price for less than a week.

On 8/13/05, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Regular gas is $2.46 and Diesel is $2.38 today - looks to me that the
> prices have reversed.
> Buy the Diesel!
> 
> On 8/13/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Normally,  this would be a no-brainer - I'd buy the diesel -  but with the
> > increase in diesel fuel and the price differential between E300Ds and
> > comparable E320s,  I'm having trouble seeing the best car to buy.
> >
> > Here's the deal:  my wife has a 4 day/week, 100 mile round trip commute.
> > She wants something safe, comfortable and economical for the drive.  My 1st
> > choice is a 96-99 E300D but they're pretty scarce and when I find one they
> > have a ~ $5000 premium over a comparable gas E320.  Also, the price of
> > diesel keeps going up and last I checked was around $2.40 - $2.50.
> >
> > So, I have to factor in:
> > -- the rising cost of diesel fuel (of course, gas is getting really high
> > also)
> > -- the price premium for Gas Vs. Diesel vehicles
> > -- the expected higher maintanence costs for the Gas engine
> > -- the longer lifespan & reduced maint of a diesel
> > -- most 96-99 E300Ds are high mileage.
> > -- ?? Anything else I've forgotten?
> >
> > What do ya'll think???  Should I consider a E320 or keep looking for a
> > reasonable 96-99 E300D
> > Thanks for your insight,
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
> > A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
> > For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
> > Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
> > http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info
> >
> >
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> '87 300SDL
> '81 240D
> '78 450SLC
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Vs Gas Choice

2005-08-13 Thread OK Don
Regular gas is $2.46 and Diesel is $2.38 today - looks to me that the
prices have reversed.
Buy the Diesel!

On 8/13/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Normally,  this would be a no-brainer - I'd buy the diesel -  but with the
> increase in diesel fuel and the price differential between E300Ds and
> comparable E320s,  I'm having trouble seeing the best car to buy.
> 
> Here's the deal:  my wife has a 4 day/week, 100 mile round trip commute.
> She wants something safe, comfortable and economical for the drive.  My 1st
> choice is a 96-99 E300D but they're pretty scarce and when I find one they
> have a ~ $5000 premium over a comparable gas E320.  Also, the price of
> diesel keeps going up and last I checked was around $2.40 - $2.50.
> 
> So, I have to factor in:
> -- the rising cost of diesel fuel (of course, gas is getting really high
> also)
> -- the price premium for Gas Vs. Diesel vehicles
> -- the expected higher maintanence costs for the Gas engine
> -- the longer lifespan & reduced maint of a diesel
> -- most 96-99 E300Ds are high mileage.
> -- ?? Anything else I've forgotten?
> 
> What do ya'll think???  Should I consider a E320 or keep looking for a
> reasonable 96-99 E300D
> Thanks for your insight,
> 
> Sincerely,
> Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
> A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
> For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
> Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
> http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info
> 
> 
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> For new parts see www.buymbparts.com
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs. Gas

2005-08-13 Thread DANTERR9
Saturday's gas price is $2.659 regular, 2.799 diesel here on long island.  
Its going up fast. -Dan


[MBZ] Diesel vs. Gas

2005-08-13 Thread Paul Raheb
Last week I filled up with Diesel at $2.79.
TODAY I  *S.A.B.* WHEN I FILLED UP WITH DIESEL AT $3.15/gal.
OTHER FREEWAY CLOSE LOCATIONS ARE CONVENIENCE PRICED AT $3.29 to $3.39/gal.


Paul
Visalia, CA

1985 300TD-T "Mommy Wagon"
1984 300D-T "Hot Rod"
PaulRaheb(at)comcast.net




> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:25:48 +
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 95
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 15:04:31 -0400
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [MBZ] Diesel Vs Gas Choice
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> reply-type=original
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Normally,  this would be a no-brainer - I'd buy the diesel -  but with the
> increase in diesel fuel and the price differential between E300Ds and
> comparable E320s,  I'm having trouble seeing the best car to buy.
> 
> Here's the deal:  my wife has a 4 day/week, 100 mile round trip commute.
> She wants something safe, comfortable and economical for the drive.  My 1st
> choice is a 96-99 E300D but they're pretty scarce and when I find one they
> have a ~ $5000 premium over a comparable gas E320.  Also, the price of
> diesel keeps going up and last I checked was around $2.40 - $2.50.
> 
> So, I have to factor in:
>   -- the rising cost of diesel fuel (of course, gas is getting really high
> also)
>   -- the price premium for Gas Vs. Diesel vehicles
>   -- the expected higher maintanence costs for the Gas engine
>   -- the longer lifespan & reduced maint of a diesel
>   -- most 96-99 E300Ds are high mileage.
>   -- ?? Anything else I've forgotten?
> 
> What do ya'll think???  Should I consider a E320 or keep looking for a
> reasonable 96-99 E300D
> Thanks for your insight,




Re: [MBZ] Diesel Vs Gas Choice

2005-08-13 Thread Rick Knoble
Go buy a lower miles '95 E300D and call it good.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1995-MERCEDES-BENZE-CLASS-E300D_W0QQitemZ4567403506QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/95-MERCEDES-BENZ-E300-D-VERY-WELL-KEPT_W0QQitemZ4568003555QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/searchresults.jsp?advanced=&certified=&isp=y&search=y&lang=en&search_type=both&make=MB&model=E300D&start_year=1995&end_year=1995&min_price=&max_price=&distance=0&address=46368&x=73&y=9

http://cars.com/go/search/fs_search_results.jsp?tracktype=usedcc&searchType=22&cid=&dlid=&dgid=&amid=&cname=&zc=46368&makeid=31&modelid=&pageNumber=0&numResultsPerPage=1500&largeNumResultsPerPage=0&sortorder=descending&sortfield=PRICE+descending&certifiedOnly=false&criteria=K-deisel%2C+diesel%2C+e300%2C+e300d%7CE-ANY%7CM-_31_%7CH-%7CN-N%7CR-1%7CI-1%7CP-PRICE+descending%7CQ-descending%7CY-_1995_%7CX-popular%7CZ-46368&aff=national&aff=national
My 2¢
Rick Knoble
1985 300 CD
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 2:04 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Diesel Vs Gas Choice


> Hi All,
>
> Normally,  this would be a no-brainer - I'd buy the diesel -  but with the
> increase in diesel fuel and the price differential between E300Ds and
> comparable E320s,  I'm having trouble seeing the best car to buy.
>
> Here's the deal:  my wife has a 4 day/week, 100 mile round trip commute.
> She wants something safe, comfortable and economical for the drive.  My
1st
> choice is a 96-99 E300D but they're pretty scarce and when I find one they
> have a ~ $5000 premium over a comparable gas E320.  Also, the price of
> diesel keeps going up and last I checked was around $2.40 - $2.50.
>
> So, I have to factor in:
> -- the rising cost of diesel fuel (of course, gas is getting really
high
> also)
> -- the price premium for Gas Vs. Diesel vehicles
> -- the expected higher maintanence costs for the Gas engine
> -- the longer lifespan & reduced maint of a diesel
> -- most 96-99 E300Ds are high mileage.
> -- ?? Anything else I've forgotten?
>
> What do ya'll think???  Should I consider a E320 or keep looking for a
> reasonable 96-99 E300D
> Thanks for your insight,
>
> Sincerely,
> Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
> A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
> For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
> Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
> http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info
>
>
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> For new parts see www.buymbparts.com
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[MBZ] Diesel Vs Gas Choice

2005-08-13 Thread l02turner

Hi All,

Normally,  this would be a no-brainer - I'd buy the diesel -  but with the 
increase in diesel fuel and the price differential between E300Ds and 
comparable E320s,  I'm having trouble seeing the best car to buy.


Here's the deal:  my wife has a 4 day/week, 100 mile round trip commute. 
She wants something safe, comfortable and economical for the drive.  My 1st 
choice is a 96-99 E300D but they're pretty scarce and when I find one they 
have a ~ $5000 premium over a comparable gas E320.  Also, the price of 
diesel keeps going up and last I checked was around $2.40 - $2.50.


So, I have to factor in:
   -- the rising cost of diesel fuel (of course, gas is getting really high 
also)

   -- the price premium for Gas Vs. Diesel vehicles
   -- the expected higher maintanence costs for the Gas engine
   -- the longer lifespan & reduced maint of a diesel
   -- most 96-99 E300Ds are high mileage.
   -- ?? Anything else I've forgotten?

What do ya'll think???  Should I consider a E320 or keep looking for a 
reasonable 96-99 E300D

Thanks for your insight,

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info 





Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs Gas

2005-06-21 Thread David Brodbeck

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 6/21/2005 12:00:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


properly maintained Mercedes gassers
 >last longer than properly maintained Mercedes diesels

 
That's the best joke I've seen on line in years!


Depends on what you mean by "last," I suppose.  If "lasting" includes 
starting in the winter without doing a ring job, I could see it...a 
gasoline engine can lose a lot more compression before it becomes 
unstartable.




Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs Gas

2005-06-21 Thread BLEIMAIER
 
In a message dated 6/21/2005 12:00:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

properly  maintained Mercedes gassers
>last longer than properly maintained  Mercedes diesels


 
That's the best joke I've seen on line in years!
 
John K.B.
(still driving a 190Dc Finback which my parents bought when I was  in high 
school)


Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs Gas

2005-06-21 Thread Marshall Booth

Roger Conlon wrote:

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I'll let you in on a little secret - properly maintained Mercedes gassers
last longer than properly maintained Mercedes diesels.


Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
http://stores.ebay.com/Tom-Hargrave-Sales



Say it aint so!


IT AIN'T.

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159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

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Re: [MBZ] Diesel vs Gas

2005-06-21 Thread andrew strasfogel
Them's fightin' words!

On 6/21/05, Roger Conlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> >I'll let you in on a little secret - properly maintained Mercedes gassers
> >last longer than properly maintained Mercedes diesels.
> >
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Tom Hargrave
> >256-656-1924
> >http://stores.ebay.com/Tom-Hargrave-Sales
> 
> Say it aint so!
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[MBZ] Diesel vs Gas

2005-06-21 Thread Roger Conlon

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I'll let you in on a little secret - properly maintained Mercedes gassers
last longer than properly maintained Mercedes diesels.


Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
http://stores.ebay.com/Tom-Hargrave-Sales


Say it aint so!

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