Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
The head gasket looked okay but there were several polished spots on the head where combustion gasses were clearly getting by. Seems like the head must have lifted when I overheated it in December and it didn't settle correctly... We'll know more when I get the assembly done, maybe later this week. -Curt Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 09:39:30 -0400 From: Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday Message-ID: afbaa62c-b293-4f28-bc50-75c731da2...@email.android.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Congrats! How did the old gasket look? Any obvious failure points? -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
Sounds like there is a possibility the head is warped and should be checked for flat. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: The head gasket looked okay but there were several polished spots on the head where combustion gasses were clearly getting by. Seems like the head must have lifted when I overheated it in December and it didn't settle correctly... We'll know more when I get the assembly done, maybe later this week. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
Less than 0.004 in. end to end. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday Sounds like there is a possibility the head is warped and should be checked for flat. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: The head gasket looked okay but there were several polished spots on the head where combustion gasses were clearly getting by. Seems like the head must have lifted when I overheated it in December and it didn't settle correctly... We'll know more when I get the assembly done, maybe later this week. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
Glad to hear you're at least one step ahead of me! -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Less than 0.004 in. end to end. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday Sounds like there is a possibility the head is warped and should be checked for flat. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: The head gasket looked okay but there were several polished spots on the head where combustion gasses were clearly getting by. Seems like the head must have lifted when I overheated it in December and it didn't settle correctly... We'll know more when I get the assembly done, maybe later this week. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
HEAD GASKET Need I say more? Of course I do. Yesterday Fred, Dwight, Dimitri and I managed to get a head gasket into my '78 240D. I started pulling parts at about 7:30am (radiator, shroud, hoses, etc) and ended with Fred and I starting the engine at 10:30pm so I could back the nose out of the garage so I could shut the door for the night. Interestingly we only needed one trip out which was actually just for a tap to chase the threads in one head bolt hole. Theres loads of pictures and even some video. I'll get them up on Photobucket over the next couple days. I'm surprised that I can move pretty well today. If I can find time among mother's day duties I'll get the radiator reinstalled and get some coolant in there so I can prove that this repair actually fixed the problem... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
That was an awesome day. Headgaskets are now demystified! Can't wait to hear how things go once you get the rad installed and the car running. Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2013, at 7:50 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: HEAD GASKET Need I say more? Of course I do. Yesterday Fred, Dwight, Dimitri and I managed to get a head gasket into my '78 240D. I started pulling parts at about 7:30am (radiator, shroud, hoses, etc) and ended with Fred and I starting the engine at 10:30pm so I could back the nose out of the garage so I could shut the door for the night. Interestingly we only needed one trip out which was actually just for a tap to chase the threads in one head bolt hole. Theres loads of pictures and even some video. I'll get them up on Photobucket over the next couple days. I'm surprised that I can move pretty well today. If I can find time among mother's day duties I'll get the radiator reinstalled and get some coolant in there so I can prove that this repair actually fixed the problem... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
Congrats! How did the old gasket look? Any obvious failure points? -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
On Sun, 12 May 2013 04:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: HEAD GASKET Need I say more? Of course I do. Yesterday Fred, Dwight, Dimitri and I managed to get a head gasket into my '78 240D. I started pulling parts at about 7:30am (radiator, shroud, hoses, etc) and ended with Fred and I starting the engine at 10:30pm so I could back the nose out of the garage so I could shut the door for the night. Wow! That was a LONG day! Theres loads of pictures and even some video. I'll get them up on Photobucket over the next couple days. We will be waiting for them. I'm surprised that I can move pretty well today. With all that bending over, yes, it's surprising. But then you are young and only abusing your body for the first few times If I can find time among mother's day duties I'll get the radiator reinstalled and get some coolant in there so I can prove that this repair actually fixed the problem... Give it a rest. Pay attention to your wife. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
He lives in Mass, he's used to it. --R On 5/12/13 10:16 AM, Craig wrote: With all that bending over, yes, it's surprising. But then you are young and only abusing your body for the first few times ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
On May 12, 2013, at 9:16 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: If I can find time among mother's day duties I'll get the radiator reinstalled and get some coolant in there so I can prove that this repair actually fixed the problem... Give it a rest. Pay attention to your wife. I will second that. A happy wife is a happy life or something like that... Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday On Sun, 12 May 2013 04:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: HEAD GASKET Need I say more? Of course I do. Yesterday Fred, Dwight, Dimitri and I managed to get a head gasket into my '78 240D. I started pulling parts at about 7:30am (radiator, shroud, hoses, etc) and ended with Fred and I starting the engine at 10:30pm so I could back the nose out of the garage so I could shut the door for the night. Wow! That was a LONG day! Theres loads of pictures and even some video. I'll get them up on Photobucket over the next couple days. We will be waiting for them. I'm surprised that I can move pretty well today. With all that bending over, yes, it's surprising. But then you are young and only abusing your body for the first few times If I can find time among mother's day duties I'll get the radiator reinstalled and get some coolant in there so I can prove that this repair actually fixed the problem... Give it a rest. Pay attention to your wife. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
Yup. IIRC, production was less than 10k, possibly less than 5k. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 4, 2013, at 20:00, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Max wrote: 210 had OM606 for multiple years, for the 124 it was a single year of production. For the turbo exhaust, the multiple years were 1998 and 1999. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
ATTABOY coming up! How 'bout a wide plumbing clamp with some muffler seal
putty ('don't know what it's called) gooped under it between clamp and pipe?
There are some plumbing clamps that already have the can attached to them.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 8:05 PM
Subject: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
Went over to a friends place and made a more permanent fix to my exhaust
situation. You may remember that the catalytic converter rusted and broke,
so I cut it out and tried to substitute with a straight pipe. Never could
get all the joints to seal, poor car sounded like it had a rice burner fart
can exhaust.
Price of a new converter from MB is north of $1600, not an option for me.
Fellow on the MBCA forum gave me some info on Magnaflow aftermarket
converters for diesel engines. Found one for $90 from O'reilly, so I
ordered that and a bunch of adapters. We also used some of the original
muffler pipe (I had earlier replaced both the resonator and the exhaust).
All told, about $130 in parts, then about four hours for the two of us to
fit the pieces up and weld it together.
My only beef is the connection to the two front pipes (coming from the
exhaust manifold). Hard to find a good match from metric exhaust to
American exhaust pipe sizes. I've got two exhaust clamps there, but it
still leaks a bit. Probably need to cut up a can and wrap a few layers to
fill up the gaps and get a better seal.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
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Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
Can you link to a picture of the clamp you have in mind?
WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
ATTABOY coming up! How 'bout a wide plumbing clamp with some muffler
seal
putty ('don't know what it's called) gooped under it between clamp and
pipe?
There are some plumbing clamps that already have the can attached to
them.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 8:05 PM
Subject: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
Went over to a friends place and made a more permanent fix to my
exhaust
situation. You may remember that the catalytic converter rusted and
broke,
so I cut it out and tried to substitute with a straight pipe. Never
could
get all the joints to seal, poor car sounded like it had a rice burner
fart
can exhaust.
Price of a new converter from MB is north of $1600, not an option for
me.
Fellow on the MBCA forum gave me some info on Magnaflow aftermarket
converters for diesel engines. Found one for $90 from O'reilly, so I
ordered that and a bunch of adapters. We also used some of the
original
muffler pipe (I had earlier replaced both the resonator and the
exhaust).
All told, about $130 in parts, then about four hours for the two of us
to
fit the pieces up and weld it together.
My only beef is the connection to the two front pipes (coming from the
exhaust manifold). Hard to find a good match from metric exhaust to
American exhaust pipe sizes. I've got two exhaust clamps there, but it
still leaks a bit. Probably need to cut up a can and wrap a few layers
to
fill up the gaps and get a better seal.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston, SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
___
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Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
That's odd; I had to replace the front pipe on my 99, which includes a similar apparatus. It rotted out right at the weld between the long section of pipe and the filter/catalyst. The dealer said that the things were ONLY available refurb. $523 by the time tax and a new donut were added on. ($150 core!) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 27, 2013, at 20:05, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Went over to a friends place and made a more permanent fix to my exhaust situation. You may remember that the catalytic converter rusted and broke, so I cut it out and tried to substitute with a straight pipe. Never could get all the joints to seal, poor car sounded like it had a rice burner fart can exhaust. Price of a new converter from MB is north of $1600, not an option for me. Fellow on the MBCA forum gave me some info on Magnaflow aftermarket converters for diesel engines. Found one for $90 from O'reilly, so I ordered that and a bunch of adapters. We also used some of the original muffler pipe (I had earlier replaced both the resonator and the exhaust). All told, about $130 in parts, then about four hours for the two of us to fit the pieces up and weld it together. My only beef is the connection to the two front pipes (coming from the exhaust manifold). Hard to find a good match from metric exhaust to American exhaust pipe sizes. I've got two exhaust clamps there, but it still leaks a bit. Probably need to cut up a can and wrap a few layers to fill up the gaps and get a better seal. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 IMG_20130427_142612_389.jpg IMG_20130427_125142_609.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
I'll try to find one.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
Can you link to a picture of the clamp you have in mind?
WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
ATTABOY coming up! How 'bout a wide plumbing clamp with some muffler
seal
putty ('don't know what it's called) gooped under it between clamp and
pipe?
There are some plumbing clamps that already have the can attached to
them.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 8:05 PM
Subject: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
Went over to a friends place and made a more permanent fix to my
exhaust
situation. You may remember that the catalytic converter rusted and
broke,
so I cut it out and tried to substitute with a straight pipe. Never
could
get all the joints to seal, poor car sounded like it had a rice burner
fart
can exhaust.
Price of a new converter from MB is north of $1600, not an option for
me.
Fellow on the MBCA forum gave me some info on Magnaflow aftermarket
converters for diesel engines. Found one for $90 from O'reilly, so I
ordered that and a bunch of adapters. We also used some of the
original
muffler pipe (I had earlier replaced both the resonator and the
exhaust).
All told, about $130 in parts, then about four hours for the two of us
to
fit the pieces up and weld it together.
My only beef is the connection to the two front pipes (coming from the
exhaust manifold). Hard to find a good match from metric exhaust to
American exhaust pipe sizes. I've got two exhaust clamps there, but it
still leaks a bit. Probably need to cut up a can and wrap a few layers
to
fill up the gaps and get a better seal.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston, SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
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Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
210 had OM606 for multiple years, for the 124 it was a single year of production. John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: That's odd; I had to replace the front pipe on my 99, which includes a similar apparatus. It rotted out right at the weld between the long section of pipe and the filter/catalyst. The dealer said that the things were ONLY available refurb. $523 by the time tax and a new donut were added on. ($150 core!) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 27, 2013, at 20:05, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Went over to a friends place and made a more permanent fix to my exhaust situation. You may remember that the catalytic converter rusted and broke, so I cut it out and tried to substitute with a straight pipe. Never could get all the joints to seal, poor car sounded like it had a rice burner fart can exhaust. Price of a new converter from MB is north of $1600, not an option for me. Fellow on the MBCA forum gave me some info on Magnaflow aftermarket converters for diesel engines. Found one for $90 from O'reilly, so I ordered that and a bunch of adapters. We also used some of the original muffler pipe (I had earlier replaced both the resonator and the exhaust). All told, about $130 in parts, then about four hours for the two of us to fit the pieces up and weld it together. My only beef is the connection to the two front pipes (coming from the exhaust manifold). Hard to find a good match from metric exhaust to American exhaust pipe sizes. I've got two exhaust clamps there, but it still leaks a bit. Probably need to cut up a can and wrap a few layers to fill up the gaps and get a better seal. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 IMG_20130427_142612_389.jpg IMG_20130427_125142_609.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
Max wrote: 210 had OM606 for multiple years, for the 124 it was a single year of production. For the turbo exhaust, the multiple years were 1998 and 1999. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
