Re: [MBZ] I need Albore's LIST MOM's opinion on this E300dizzel

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

This weekend and next are no good, I've got a certification exam in two
weeks (for work), need to study up.  I think I've also got one or two
airbags to light off.

That "burn out the carbon" idea does sound like a lot of fun!  You need to
make a video, first line is "Hold ma beer and watch this!".

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 9:42 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> damn.   That sounds like some fun.  I might have to do that. Could use
> some bbq lighter fluid or something too I guess, put a torch to it.
>
> I have an old airbag here too, could blow some sh*t up and do some fire
> and whatnot, maybe even shoot some guns.  Max what's your weekend looking
> like?
>
> --FT
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] I need Albore's LIST MOM's opinion on this E300dizzel

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

damn.   That sounds like some fun.  I might have to do that. Could use 
some bbq lighter fluid or something too I guess, put a torch to it.


I have an old airbag here too, could blow some sh*t up and do some fire 
and whatnot, maybe even shoot some guns.  Max what's your weekend 
looking like?


--FT


On 3/2/18 8:40 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Thats how they clean intake manifolds on TDIs when they get all carboned up. 
I'm not sure they use carb cleaner, I think they just heat them until the 
carbon catches fire, its all oil soaked anyway...
The videos are pretty cool.

-Curt
  


 On Friday, March 2, 2018, 12:35:39 AM EST, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
 wrote:
  
  I think you can squirt some carb cleaner in, light it on fire, then feed it

compressed air from a gun until all the crud is burned out. I posted a
video link to it one time.

On Feb 27, 2018 11:19 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I have 5 new glow plugs that need a new home.  Let me know offlist if
interested.

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Yeah I should get that thing and try it out.  I have a 12-2 mtg on
Thursday so can't make lunch then but we can get organized at some time.

I

guess I should just put it back together and see how it runs, then deal
with the plugs if it doesn't run well.

--FT



On 2/27/18 11:11 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:


Have you tested the GPs?  I've got an ammeter rigged up with heavy wire

so

you can watch the current spike and then drop as they heat up.  We should
do lunch, maybe Thursday, and I can loan you the tool.

Drop off the manifold for a hot tank dip to clean it out?  I wonder if
Star
Motors has one, Simmons Machine Shop is also on your side of the rivers
and
they've got one for sure.  Personally I don't think that is required in
most cases, but for piece of mind it would be fun.  My old 123.190 had a
really gunked up intake manifold, but the stuff would slowly migrate to
the
intake valves and so occasionally it would suck in a bit, and expel

chunks

out the exhaust while sounding pretty rough and missing a bit.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

So I took off the manifold and cleaned up the EGR and got it working OK

(at least it opens and closes with vacuum, not sure if the car systems
are
working to make it do that).  It was throwing EGR and glow plug codes, I
read some other reports that suggest the EGR might somehow lead to the
generation of GP codes, so if that is the case then I probably wouldn't
need to fool with the GPs.  Not sure why bad GPs would make the car run
bad
once it starts anyway, it starts mostly OK with a good charge on the
battree so that suggests the GPs might be mostly OK too.

There is also a bypass method to jumper some wires on the EGR so it

won't

be EGRing and doing all that business, I might do that too if the car
still
doesn't run right.

I have not put the manifold back on yet, I was waiting to get some Kroil
and keep dosing the GPs with it, but the suggested procedure is to run

it

and get it hot to make them easier to get out, which means the manifold
needs to be on there for the car to run, and it would have to come off a
hot engine which would not be a lot of fun, but it is mostly easy except
for the clamp holding the turbo output tube onto the manifold.

Albore's LIST MOM's opinion aside, I guess I should just put it back
together and see if it runs better now, and if it does then not fool

with

the GPs.  I'd have to do that anyway, so I guess I will.

BTW the EGR was completely buggered up with diesel soot and crud, took a
lot of scraping and brushing with little wire brushes and degreaser to
get
it clean.  I put some purple degreaser stuff in the manifold and let it
sit
for a coupla days, not sure that loosened anything out of the manifold,
but
I managed to scrape some stuff from the ends I could reach.  What I
poured
out was pretty nasty though, so maybe something came out of it.  If I
had a
pressure washer I probably could have blasted a lot out.  It is not
completely clogged so I think it will be OK.  The EGR concept is
completely
stupid.

This was something of a pointless sharing, but I guess it got my

thinking

thought through.

--
--FT (who likes the recent local warming thought it is making the tree
pollen go crazy now, and my respiratory system go crazy)


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Re: [MBZ] I need Albore's LIST MOM's opinion on this E300dizzel

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Thats how they clean intake manifolds on TDIs when they get all carboned up. 
I'm not sure they use carb cleaner, I think they just heat them until the 
carbon catches fire, its all oil soaked anyway...
The videos are pretty cool.

-Curt
 

On Friday, March 2, 2018, 12:35:39 AM EST, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I think you can squirt some carb cleaner in, light it on fire, then feed it
compressed air from a gun until all the crud is burned out. I posted a
video link to it one time.

On Feb 27, 2018 11:19 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I have 5 new glow plugs that need a new home.  Let me know offlist if
interested.

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yeah I should get that thing and try it out.  I have a 12-2 mtg on
> Thursday so can't make lunch then but we can get organized at some time.
I
> guess I should just put it back together and see how it runs, then deal
> with the plugs if it doesn't run well.
>
> --FT
>
>
>
> On 2/27/18 11:11 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Have you tested the GPs?  I've got an ammeter rigged up with heavy wire
so
>> you can watch the current spike and then drop as they heat up.  We should
>> do lunch, maybe Thursday, and I can loan you the tool.
>>
>> Drop off the manifold for a hot tank dip to clean it out?  I wonder if
>> Star
>> Motors has one, Simmons Machine Shop is also on your side of the rivers
>> and
>> they've got one for sure.  Personally I don't think that is required in
>> most cases, but for piece of mind it would be fun.  My old 123.190 had a
>> really gunked up intake manifold, but the stuff would slowly migrate to
>> the
>> intake valves and so occasionally it would suck in a bit, and expel
chunks
>> out the exhaust while sounding pretty rough and missing a bit.
>>
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> So I took off the manifold and cleaned up the EGR and got it working OK
>>> (at least it opens and closes with vacuum, not sure if the car systems
>>> are
>>> working to make it do that).  It was throwing EGR and glow plug codes, I
>>> read some other reports that suggest the EGR might somehow lead to the
>>> generation of GP codes, so if that is the case then I probably wouldn't
>>> need to fool with the GPs.  Not sure why bad GPs would make the car run
>>> bad
>>> once it starts anyway, it starts mostly OK with a good charge on the
>>> battree so that suggests the GPs might be mostly OK too.
>>>
>>> There is also a bypass method to jumper some wires on the EGR so it
won't
>>> be EGRing and doing all that business, I might do that too if the car
>>> still
>>> doesn't run right.
>>>
>>> I have not put the manifold back on yet, I was waiting to get some Kroil
>>> and keep dosing the GPs with it, but the suggested procedure is to run
it
>>> and get it hot to make them easier to get out, which means the manifold
>>> needs to be on there for the car to run, and it would have to come off a
>>> hot engine which would not be a lot of fun, but it is mostly easy except
>>> for the clamp holding the turbo output tube onto the manifold.
>>>
>>> Albore's LIST MOM's opinion aside, I guess I should just put it back
>>> together and see if it runs better now, and if it does then not fool
with
>>> the GPs.  I'd have to do that anyway, so I guess I will.
>>>
>>> BTW the EGR was completely buggered up with diesel soot and crud, took a
>>> lot of scraping and brushing with little wire brushes and degreaser to
>>> get
>>> it clean.  I put some purple degreaser stuff in the manifold and let it
>>> sit
>>> for a coupla days, not sure that loosened anything out of the manifold,
>>> but
>>> I managed to scrape some stuff from the ends I could reach.  What I
>>> poured
>>> out was pretty nasty though, so maybe something came out of it.  If I
>>> had a
>>> pressure washer I probably could have blasted a lot out.  It is not
>>> completely clogged so I think it will be OK.  The EGR concept is
>>> completely
>>> stupid.
>>>
>>> This was something of a pointless sharing, but I guess it got my
thinking
>>> thought through.
>>>
>>> --
>>> --FT (who likes the recent local warming thought it is making the tree
>>> pollen go crazy now, and my respiratory system go crazy)
>>>
>>>
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>
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Re: [MBZ] I need Albore's LIST MOM's opinion on this E300dizzel

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

That sounds like fun!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 2, 2018 12:35:29 AM EST, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>I think you can squirt some carb cleaner in, light it on fire, then
>feed it
>compressed air from a gun until all the crud is burned out. I posted a
>video link to it one time.
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] I need Albore's LIST MOM's opinion on this E300dizzel

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

I think you can squirt some carb cleaner in, light it on fire, then feed it
compressed air from a gun until all the crud is burned out. I posted a
video link to it one time.

On Feb 27, 2018 11:19 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I have 5 new glow plugs that need a new home.  Let me know offlist if
interested.

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yeah I should get that thing and try it out.  I have a 12-2 mtg on
> Thursday so can't make lunch then but we can get organized at some time.
I
> guess I should just put it back together and see how it runs, then deal
> with the plugs if it doesn't run well.
>
> --FT
>
>
>
> On 2/27/18 11:11 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Have you tested the GPs?  I've got an ammeter rigged up with heavy wire
so
>> you can watch the current spike and then drop as they heat up.  We should
>> do lunch, maybe Thursday, and I can loan you the tool.
>>
>> Drop off the manifold for a hot tank dip to clean it out?  I wonder if
>> Star
>> Motors has one, Simmons Machine Shop is also on your side of the rivers
>> and
>> they've got one for sure.  Personally I don't think that is required in
>> most cases, but for piece of mind it would be fun.  My old 123.190 had a
>> really gunked up intake manifold, but the stuff would slowly migrate to
>> the
>> intake valves and so occasionally it would suck in a bit, and expel
chunks
>> out the exhaust while sounding pretty rough and missing a bit.
>>
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> So I took off the manifold and cleaned up the EGR and got it working OK
>>> (at least it opens and closes with vacuum, not sure if the car systems
>>> are
>>> working to make it do that).  It was throwing EGR and glow plug codes, I
>>> read some other reports that suggest the EGR might somehow lead to the
>>> generation of GP codes, so if that is the case then I probably wouldn't
>>> need to fool with the GPs.  Not sure why bad GPs would make the car run
>>> bad
>>> once it starts anyway, it starts mostly OK with a good charge on the
>>> battree so that suggests the GPs might be mostly OK too.
>>>
>>> There is also a bypass method to jumper some wires on the EGR so it
won't
>>> be EGRing and doing all that business, I might do that too if the car
>>> still
>>> doesn't run right.
>>>
>>> I have not put the manifold back on yet, I was waiting to get some Kroil
>>> and keep dosing the GPs with it, but the suggested procedure is to run
it
>>> and get it hot to make them easier to get out, which means the manifold
>>> needs to be on there for the car to run, and it would have to come off a
>>> hot engine which would not be a lot of fun, but it is mostly easy except
>>> for the clamp holding the turbo output tube onto the manifold.
>>>
>>> Albore's LIST MOM's opinion aside, I guess I should just put it back
>>> together and see if it runs better now, and if it does then not fool
with
>>> the GPs.  I'd have to do that anyway, so I guess I will.
>>>
>>> BTW the EGR was completely buggered up with diesel soot and crud, took a
>>> lot of scraping and brushing with little wire brushes and degreaser to
>>> get
>>> it clean.  I put some purple degreaser stuff in the manifold and let it
>>> sit
>>> for a coupla days, not sure that loosened anything out of the manifold,
>>> but
>>> I managed to scrape some stuff from the ends I could reach.  What I
>>> poured
>>> out was pretty nasty though, so maybe something came out of it.  If I
>>> had a
>>> pressure washer I probably could have blasted a lot out.  It is not
>>> completely clogged so I think it will be OK.  The EGR concept is
>>> completely
>>> stupid.
>>>
>>> This was something of a pointless sharing, but I guess it got my
thinking
>>> thought through.
>>>
>>> --
>>> --FT (who likes the recent local warming thought it is making the tree
>>> pollen go crazy now, and my respiratory system go crazy)
>>>
>>>
>>> ___
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>
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Re: [MBZ] I need Albore's LIST MOM's opinion on this E300dizzel

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I have 5 new glow plugs that need a new home.  Let me know offlist if
interested.

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yeah I should get that thing and try it out.  I have a 12-2 mtg on
> Thursday so can't make lunch then but we can get organized at some time.  I
> guess I should just put it back together and see how it runs, then deal
> with the plugs if it doesn't run well.
>
> --FT
>
>
>
> On 2/27/18 11:11 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Have you tested the GPs?  I've got an ammeter rigged up with heavy wire so
>> you can watch the current spike and then drop as they heat up.  We should
>> do lunch, maybe Thursday, and I can loan you the tool.
>>
>> Drop off the manifold for a hot tank dip to clean it out?  I wonder if
>> Star
>> Motors has one, Simmons Machine Shop is also on your side of the rivers
>> and
>> they've got one for sure.  Personally I don't think that is required in
>> most cases, but for piece of mind it would be fun.  My old 123.190 had a
>> really gunked up intake manifold, but the stuff would slowly migrate to
>> the
>> intake valves and so occasionally it would suck in a bit, and expel chunks
>> out the exhaust while sounding pretty rough and missing a bit.
>>
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> So I took off the manifold and cleaned up the EGR and got it working OK
>>> (at least it opens and closes with vacuum, not sure if the car systems
>>> are
>>> working to make it do that).  It was throwing EGR and glow plug codes, I
>>> read some other reports that suggest the EGR might somehow lead to the
>>> generation of GP codes, so if that is the case then I probably wouldn't
>>> need to fool with the GPs.  Not sure why bad GPs would make the car run
>>> bad
>>> once it starts anyway, it starts mostly OK with a good charge on the
>>> battree so that suggests the GPs might be mostly OK too.
>>>
>>> There is also a bypass method to jumper some wires on the EGR so it won't
>>> be EGRing and doing all that business, I might do that too if the car
>>> still
>>> doesn't run right.
>>>
>>> I have not put the manifold back on yet, I was waiting to get some Kroil
>>> and keep dosing the GPs with it, but the suggested procedure is to run it
>>> and get it hot to make them easier to get out, which means the manifold
>>> needs to be on there for the car to run, and it would have to come off a
>>> hot engine which would not be a lot of fun, but it is mostly easy except
>>> for the clamp holding the turbo output tube onto the manifold.
>>>
>>> Albore's LIST MOM's opinion aside, I guess I should just put it back
>>> together and see if it runs better now, and if it does then not fool with
>>> the GPs.  I'd have to do that anyway, so I guess I will.
>>>
>>> BTW the EGR was completely buggered up with diesel soot and crud, took a
>>> lot of scraping and brushing with little wire brushes and degreaser to
>>> get
>>> it clean.  I put some purple degreaser stuff in the manifold and let it
>>> sit
>>> for a coupla days, not sure that loosened anything out of the manifold,
>>> but
>>> I managed to scrape some stuff from the ends I could reach.  What I
>>> poured
>>> out was pretty nasty though, so maybe something came out of it.  If I
>>> had a
>>> pressure washer I probably could have blasted a lot out.  It is not
>>> completely clogged so I think it will be OK.  The EGR concept is
>>> completely
>>> stupid.
>>>
>>> This was something of a pointless sharing, but I guess it got my thinking
>>> thought through.
>>>
>>> --
>>> --FT (who likes the recent local warming thought it is making the tree
>>> pollen go crazy now, and my respiratory system go crazy)
>>>
>>>
>>> ___
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>
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Re: [MBZ] I need Albore's LIST MOM's opinion on this E300dizzel

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Yeah I should get that thing and try it out.  I have a 12-2 mtg on 
Thursday so can't make lunch then but we can get organized at some 
time.  I guess I should just put it back together and see how it runs, 
then deal with the plugs if it doesn't run well.


--FT


On 2/27/18 11:11 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Have you tested the GPs?  I've got an ammeter rigged up with heavy wire so
you can watch the current spike and then drop as they heat up.  We should
do lunch, maybe Thursday, and I can loan you the tool.

Drop off the manifold for a hot tank dip to clean it out?  I wonder if Star
Motors has one, Simmons Machine Shop is also on your side of the rivers and
they've got one for sure.  Personally I don't think that is required in
most cases, but for piece of mind it would be fun.  My old 123.190 had a
really gunked up intake manifold, but the stuff would slowly migrate to the
intake valves and so occasionally it would suck in a bit, and expel chunks
out the exhaust while sounding pretty rough and missing a bit.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


So I took off the manifold and cleaned up the EGR and got it working OK
(at least it opens and closes with vacuum, not sure if the car systems are
working to make it do that).  It was throwing EGR and glow plug codes, I
read some other reports that suggest the EGR might somehow lead to the
generation of GP codes, so if that is the case then I probably wouldn't
need to fool with the GPs.  Not sure why bad GPs would make the car run bad
once it starts anyway, it starts mostly OK with a good charge on the
battree so that suggests the GPs might be mostly OK too.

There is also a bypass method to jumper some wires on the EGR so it won't
be EGRing and doing all that business, I might do that too if the car still
doesn't run right.

I have not put the manifold back on yet, I was waiting to get some Kroil
and keep dosing the GPs with it, but the suggested procedure is to run it
and get it hot to make them easier to get out, which means the manifold
needs to be on there for the car to run, and it would have to come off a
hot engine which would not be a lot of fun, but it is mostly easy except
for the clamp holding the turbo output tube onto the manifold.

Albore's LIST MOM's opinion aside, I guess I should just put it back
together and see if it runs better now, and if it does then not fool with
the GPs.  I'd have to do that anyway, so I guess I will.

BTW the EGR was completely buggered up with diesel soot and crud, took a
lot of scraping and brushing with little wire brushes and degreaser to get
it clean.  I put some purple degreaser stuff in the manifold and let it sit
for a coupla days, not sure that loosened anything out of the manifold, but
I managed to scrape some stuff from the ends I could reach.  What I poured
out was pretty nasty though, so maybe something came out of it.  If I had a
pressure washer I probably could have blasted a lot out.  It is not
completely clogged so I think it will be OK.  The EGR concept is completely
stupid.

This was something of a pointless sharing, but I guess it got my thinking
thought through.

--
--FT (who likes the recent local warming thought it is making the tree
pollen go crazy now, and my respiratory system go crazy)


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Re: [MBZ] I need Albore's LIST MOM's opinion on this E300dizzel

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Have you tested the GPs?  I've got an ammeter rigged up with heavy wire so
you can watch the current spike and then drop as they heat up.  We should
do lunch, maybe Thursday, and I can loan you the tool.

Drop off the manifold for a hot tank dip to clean it out?  I wonder if Star
Motors has one, Simmons Machine Shop is also on your side of the rivers and
they've got one for sure.  Personally I don't think that is required in
most cases, but for piece of mind it would be fun.  My old 123.190 had a
really gunked up intake manifold, but the stuff would slowly migrate to the
intake valves and so occasionally it would suck in a bit, and expel chunks
out the exhaust while sounding pretty rough and missing a bit.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So I took off the manifold and cleaned up the EGR and got it working OK
> (at least it opens and closes with vacuum, not sure if the car systems are
> working to make it do that).  It was throwing EGR and glow plug codes, I
> read some other reports that suggest the EGR might somehow lead to the
> generation of GP codes, so if that is the case then I probably wouldn't
> need to fool with the GPs.  Not sure why bad GPs would make the car run bad
> once it starts anyway, it starts mostly OK with a good charge on the
> battree so that suggests the GPs might be mostly OK too.
>
> There is also a bypass method to jumper some wires on the EGR so it won't
> be EGRing and doing all that business, I might do that too if the car still
> doesn't run right.
>
> I have not put the manifold back on yet, I was waiting to get some Kroil
> and keep dosing the GPs with it, but the suggested procedure is to run it
> and get it hot to make them easier to get out, which means the manifold
> needs to be on there for the car to run, and it would have to come off a
> hot engine which would not be a lot of fun, but it is mostly easy except
> for the clamp holding the turbo output tube onto the manifold.
>
> Albore's LIST MOM's opinion aside, I guess I should just put it back
> together and see if it runs better now, and if it does then not fool with
> the GPs.  I'd have to do that anyway, so I guess I will.
>
> BTW the EGR was completely buggered up with diesel soot and crud, took a
> lot of scraping and brushing with little wire brushes and degreaser to get
> it clean.  I put some purple degreaser stuff in the manifold and let it sit
> for a coupla days, not sure that loosened anything out of the manifold, but
> I managed to scrape some stuff from the ends I could reach.  What I poured
> out was pretty nasty though, so maybe something came out of it.  If I had a
> pressure washer I probably could have blasted a lot out.  It is not
> completely clogged so I think it will be OK.  The EGR concept is completely
> stupid.
>
> This was something of a pointless sharing, but I guess it got my thinking
> thought through.
>
> --
> --FT (who likes the recent local warming thought it is making the tree
> pollen go crazy now, and my respiratory system go crazy)
>
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[MBZ] I need Albore's LIST MOM's opinion on this E300dizzel

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

So I took off the manifold and cleaned up the EGR and got it working OK 
(at least it opens and closes with vacuum, not sure if the car systems 
are working to make it do that).  It was throwing EGR and glow plug 
codes, I read some other reports that suggest the EGR might somehow lead 
to the generation of GP codes, so if that is the case then I probably 
wouldn't need to fool with the GPs.  Not sure why bad GPs would make the 
car run bad once it starts anyway, it starts mostly OK with a good 
charge on the battree so that suggests the GPs might be mostly OK too.


There is also a bypass method to jumper some wires on the EGR so it 
won't be EGRing and doing all that business, I might do that too if the 
car still doesn't run right.


I have not put the manifold back on yet, I was waiting to get some Kroil 
and keep dosing the GPs with it, but the suggested procedure is to run 
it and get it hot to make them easier to get out, which means the 
manifold needs to be on there for the car to run, and it would have to 
come off a hot engine which would not be a lot of fun, but it is mostly 
easy except for the clamp holding the turbo output tube onto the manifold.


Albore's LIST MOM's opinion aside, I guess I should just put it back 
together and see if it runs better now, and if it does then not fool 
with the GPs.  I'd have to do that anyway, so I guess I will.


BTW the EGR was completely buggered up with diesel soot and crud, took a 
lot of scraping and brushing with little wire brushes and degreaser to 
get it clean.  I put some purple degreaser stuff in the manifold and let 
it sit for a coupla days, not sure that loosened anything out of the 
manifold, but I managed to scrape some stuff from the ends I could 
reach.  What I poured out was pretty nasty though, so maybe something 
came out of it.  If I had a pressure washer I probably could have 
blasted a lot out.  It is not completely clogged so I think it will be 
OK.  The EGR concept is completely stupid.


This was something of a pointless sharing, but I guess it got my 
thinking thought through.


--
--FT (who likes the recent local warming thought it is making the tree pollen 
go crazy now, and my respiratory system go crazy)


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