Re: [MBZ] Jet-A
Yup - AOPA Pilot and the EAA news from Airventure, then the Cessna site. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:05 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: Minor correction - the Jet-A engine is in the new 182 to replace the turbo Continental engine. The NA 182 still has a Continental 0-470 Yes, I mistyped that. I assume you read the reviews in AOPA Pilot and Flying. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jet-A
Alles. I always thought that a Jet-A (sp?) was a jump in the air I'll go away now. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jet-A Yup - AOPA Pilot and the EAA news from Airventure, then the Cessna site. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jet-A
Is it compression-ignition?.. As I posted yesterday, yes it is. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jet-A
...I'll bet it would run on diesel just fine, but I wouldn't ride in that plane!.. The fuel caps are placarded, JET-A ONLY. The reason the engine was engineered for Jet-A is that Jet-A is available at every major airport on the planet and diesel fuel is not. If diesel were permitted, some damned fool would start collecting used fryer grease. There is also a design feature that eliminates the need for Prist, a common Jet-A additive. At high altitude where it's cold, there is the danger of gelling. There is also the question of unapproved fuels which is federally regulated. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jet-A
Prist is to kill algae (or at least it was 40 yr ago when I was refueling airplanes). It came in a spray can with a long hose and a clip where you could attach the end to the Jet-A nozzle, and squirt it while refueling so as to get it well mixed. I never understood the issue because most of the Jet-A airplanes and helos burned it all up in the next few hours, but whatever...I guess it kept the nasties out of the fuel system. Jet-A has a lower vapor pressure so it does not decide to turn into vapor at altitude. Or gel up when it gets cold. --R On 10/3/12 10:49 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...I'll bet it would run on diesel just fine, but I wouldn't ride in that plane!.. The fuel caps are placarded, JET-A ONLY. The reason the engine was engineered for Jet-A is that Jet-A is available at every major airport on the planet and diesel fuel is not. If diesel were permitted, some damned fool would start collecting used fryer grease. There is also a design feature that eliminates the need for Prist, a common Jet-A additive. At high altitude where it's cold, there is the danger of gelling. There is also the question of unapproved fuels which is federally regulated. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jet-A
Whatever Jet -A is, it's NOT ASTM Diesel fuel by any stretch. More like low volatility gasoline, in fact. Did a project a few years back attempting to identify some hydrocarbon liquid after a flood. Only thing I could figure it was was maybe lighter fluid, but I ran some GC testing on Jet-A along with some other things. Gelling resistance is necessary for high altitude operation -- one of the selling points of JP-4 was that it wouldn't gel. It WOULD generate significant vapor pressure at room temp though -- in fact it was typically called wide cut gasoline and was eventually banned after a couple jets exploded due to excessive fuel vapor in the tanks. Fortunately only one was carrying passengers at the time, the others were destroyed in a hanger fire when a fuel pump shorted and the wing blew up. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jet-A
That would make you have a really bad day. --R On 10/3/12 11:33 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: in fact it was typically called wide cut gasoline and was eventually banned after a couple jets exploded due to excessive fuel vapor in the tanks. Fortunately only one was carrying passengers at the time, the others were destroyed in a hanger fire when a fuel pump shorted and the wing blew up. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jet-A
Minor correction - the Jet-A engine is in the new 182 to replace the turbo Continental engine. The NA 182 still has a Continental 0-470 Yes, I mistyped that. I assume you read the reviews in AOPA Pilot and Flying. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Jet Pumps
For Jet Pumps, read Jacuzzi. This was before hot tubs. Fred Moir Lynn MA One of these One of those and Mokita. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Jet Fuel
Hi, All. You lot are making me feel ancient. JP4 was the latest thing when I was in the R.A.F. We had AvGas (100+ octane aviation fuel) AvCat, AvTag, AvTur and other NATO stuff, all long gone by now. What comes next, a space ship with a deck full of peanut plants to fuel an alternate fuel space drive? Sorry I'm a day late, got run over by a soy eating moose! Fred Moir Lynn MA #2 fueled Klatta Klatta. - Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Mar 04 15:44:43 2006 Received: from mxa.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.40]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FFYvz-00067a-FK for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 04 Mar 2006 15:44:43 + Received: from dogear.com (IP-206-63-94-251.progress.wi-fi.windwireless.net [206.63.94.251] (may be forged)) by mxa.windwireless.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k24FjH20018059 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 4 Mar 2006 07:45:17 -0800 Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 07:44:40 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Virus-Scan: smtp-vilter X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.1.0rc2 X-SMTP-Vilter-Backend: Clam AntiVirus Daemon (clamd) X-SMTP-Vilter-Status: clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0rc4 (mxa.windwireless.net [199.164.167.40]); Sat, 04 Mar 2006 07:45:17 -0800 (PST) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 15:44:44 - Well Craig did it to me! After looking at his link I had to get a Lister and a 12 KW gen. Head! It should be at the dock to pick up Tuesday. Congratulations! Those things are just too cool... -- Jim
