Re: [MBZ] Look Out, Mitch!!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

IL was famous for that for decades.   Also requiring an IL inspection on 
any truck operating inside their borders.   Johnny'd sit at the end of 
the bridge, and nap any truck entering the state.   No lack of brownie 
points for johnny.   A I recall, the fine was pretty hefty.   Like $50 
when most people worked for 75¢ and hour.


There are good reasons why people have been fleeing IL for decades.

Craig via Mercedes 
January 14, 2020 at 11:10 AM
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 16:25:47 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes

Different speed limits for trucks is something the Owner Operator
Independent Drivers Association (OOIDA) has been fighting for years.
It seems some "safety" organizations think heavy trucks going fast
is dangerous and try to convince lawmakers to have different speed
limits.


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] Look Out, Mitch!!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

yes, even illegal alien morons from other countries that can't 
understand the signs or the language, and who have no experience other 
than walking. (or riding in someone's vehicle.)



Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
January 14, 2020 at 10:31 AM
*Nods* we give a drivers license to pretty much anybody who wants one. 
When I was in Germany in the '90s the German kids my age were spending 
months in drivers training at a cost of thousands of (1990s) marks.I 
went to driver's ed which wasn't required and took, I think, 2 weeks 
of like 2 hours a day plus maybe 4-5 hours in the car.

-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] Look Out, Mitch!!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

not controlled for other factors, such as the morons who are texting and 
doing other dumb activities when they drive.   Remember, up until 1990 
or so, the Germans said "Ven you Drife, you Drife!   Ven you trink, you 
trink!   NO CUPHOLDERS!   Taking a drink from a cup is much less risky 
than text, yet people can even screw up and wreck with a cup.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
January 14, 2020 at 8:45 AM
https://jalopnik.com/michigans-75-mph-speed-limit-has-lead-to-more-speeding-1840978918

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Look Out, Mitch!!

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Curt wrote:

>  Does MI still have truck ... limited to 10 or 15mph slower than
> cars which made trucks rolling roadblocks 

The truck drivers dislike split speed limits a whole lot more than
the cars do.  Anytime there is a notable speed difference it's
less safe.  It happens - but to deliberately cause it seems foolish.

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Re: [MBZ] Look Out, Mitch!!

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Mixing speeds is dangerous in my opinion. I remember reading or hearing that 
some majority of accidents occur when vehicles are in the bottom 20% or the top 
20% of all the speeds driven. In other words try to keep an even flow, extremes 
are dangerous.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jan 14, 2020 12:11:04 PM Craig via Mercedes :

> On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 16:25:47 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> > Does MI still have truck speed limits? When we were there (gosh is it
> > almost 6 years ago already?) trucks were limited to 10 or 15mph slower
> > than cars which made trucks rolling roadblocks that some people seemed
> > to see as a challenge to dart around. Seemed like that was extra
> > dangerous for no reason.
> > 
> 
> Different speed limits for trucks is something the Owner Operator
> Independent Drivers Association (OOIDA) has been fighting for years.
> It seems some "safety" organizations think heavy trucks going fast
> is dangerous and try to convince lawmakers to have different speed
> limits.
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Look Out, Mitch!!

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 16:25:47 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Does MI still have truck speed limits? When we were there (gosh is it
> almost 6 years ago already?) trucks were limited to 10 or 15mph slower
> than cars which made trucks rolling roadblocks that some people seemed
> to see as a challenge to dart around. Seemed like that was extra
> dangerous for no reason.

Different speed limits for trucks is something the Owner Operator
Independent Drivers Association (OOIDA) has been fighting for years.
It seems some "safety" organizations think heavy trucks going fast
is dangerous and try to convince lawmakers to have different speed
limits.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Look Out, Mitch!!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 *Nods* we give a drivers license to pretty much anybody who wants one. When I 
was in Germany in the '90s the German kids my age were spending months in 
drivers training at a cost of thousands of (1990s) marks.I went to driver's ed 
which wasn't required and took, I think, 2 weeks of like 2 hours a day plus 
maybe 4-5 hours in the car.
-Curt

On Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 11:28:49 AM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 As Germany shows, high speed limits are not a problem. The problem is
people here don't know how to drive safely at high speeds, frequently
drive too fast for conditions, and probably also that roads in Michigan
are (in my experience) generally in a very poor state of repair.

Allan

Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:

> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> https://jalopnik.com/michigans-75-mph-speed-limit-has-lead-to-more-speeding-1840978918
>
> My boss at the tax shop sets her cruise control at 78 in a 70 zone.
> Never gets pulled over.
> I should ask her what she does when she goes towards Flint and hits the 75 
> zone.
>
> Mitch.
>

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Re: [MBZ] Look Out, Mitch!!

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

As Germany shows, high speed limits are not a problem. The problem is
people here don't know how to drive safely at high speeds, frequently
drive too fast for conditions, and probably also that roads in Michigan
are (in my experience) generally in a very poor state of repair.

Allan

Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:

> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> https://jalopnik.com/michigans-75-mph-speed-limit-has-lead-to-more-speeding-1840978918
>
> My boss at the tax shop sets her cruise control at 78 in a 70 zone.
> Never gets pulled over.
> I should ask her what she does when she goes towards Flint and hits the 75 
> zone.
>
> Mitch.
>

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Re: [MBZ] Look Out, Mitch!!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Its bonkers here, back in the early 2000s I'd see people pulled over all the 
time. Now I drive a similar amount and almost never see a car pulled over. Much 
of my commute is 4 lane highway at 55mph with most cars going 65 minimum and 
many at 80.
I never thought I'd say this but we really need more enforcement, people slow 
down (at least briefly) when they see a car pulled over...
-Curt

On Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 9:55:58 AM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> https://jalopnik.com/michigans-75-mph-speed-limit-has-lead-to-more-speeding-1840978918

My boss at the tax shop sets her cruise control at 78 in a 70 zone.
Never gets pulled over.
I should ask her what she does when she goes towards Flint and hits the 75 zone.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Look Out, Mitch!!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Does MI still have truck speed limits? When we were there (gosh is it almost 6 
years ago already?) trucks were limited to 10 or 15mph slower than cars which 
made trucks rolling roadblocks that some people seemed to see as a challenge to 
dart around. Seemed like that was extra dangerous for no reason.
-Curt

On Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 9:46:34 AM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 
https://jalopnik.com/michigans-75-mph-speed-limit-has-lead-to-more-speeding-1840978918

-D
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[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

https://jalopnik.com/michigans-75-mph-speed-limit-has-lead-to-more-speeding-1840978918


My boss at the tax shop sets her cruise control at 78 in a 70 zone.
Never gets pulled over.
I should ask her what she does when she goes towards Flint and hits the 75 zone.

Mitch.

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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

https://jalopnik.com/michigans-75-mph-speed-limit-has-lead-to-more-speeding-1840978918

-D
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