Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned/sin binned

[Dieselhead]

If it was MBUSI, then DOJ has a say, because it is a "US COMPANY"   I 
can see where they would have to make certain "accommodations" to get 
ML, R and other US made vehicles into the eastern bloc countries.





The WSJ report said the company was operating with extreme sensitivity
to proper expense accounting after reaching a truce of sorts with the
USA over bribes paid in eastern europe.  Why the USA would care, or have
any authority over MB paying bribes in eastern europe was not clear to
me.



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Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned/sin binned

[Peter Hertzing]

That about covers it.  And these foreign bribes are significantly different
then meals, trips and campaign donations by Political actions committees who
would never consider trying to influence a member of government with said
gifts.  Just Saying.

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Allan Streib wrote:
>
> The WSJ report said the company was operating with extreme sensitivity
>> to proper expense accounting after reaching a truce of sorts with the
>> USA over bribes paid in eastern europe.  Why the USA would care, or have
>> any authority over MB paying bribes in eastern europe was not clear to
>> me.
>>
>
> We have federal laws against bribing foreign officials, including countries
> where it is impossible to do business without greasing the proper palm.
>
> Just a small part of the USA government's efforts to appoint itself the
> planet's chief of police.
>
> Mitch.
>
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Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned/sin binned

[Mitch Haley]

Allan Streib wrote:


The WSJ report said the company was operating with extreme sensitivity
to proper expense accounting after reaching a truce of sorts with the
USA over bribes paid in eastern europe.  Why the USA would care, or have
any authority over MB paying bribes in eastern europe was not clear to
me.


We have federal laws against bribing foreign officials, including countries 
where it is impossible to do business without greasing the proper palm.


Just a small part of the USA government's efforts to appoint itself the planet's 
chief of police.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned/sin binned

[Allan Streib]

Hendrik & Fay  writes:

> And why would Daimler remove someone who is good at their job and may
> be hard to replace, they could have asked Lieb to refund the money and
> given him a stern talking to, unless he was warned to be very careful
> in regards to using company funds.

The WSJ report said the company was operating with extreme sensitivity
to proper expense accounting after reaching a truce of sorts with the
USA over bribes paid in eastern europe.  Why the USA would care, or have
any authority over MB paying bribes in eastern europe was not clear to
me.


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Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned/sin binned

[G Mann]

In the corporate world, anyone can and will be thrown under the bus for any
reason once the decision is made. We hear information given, not facts
behind the scene.
Somewhere, somehow, Lieb pushed the wrong set of personal buttons and he is
out.
Next !!

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 2:44 AM, Hendrik & Fay wrote:

> Well at this stage it's all rumours and hearsay but I think there is more
> to this than a couple of dodgy expenses.
> This fella is obviously pretty smart and would know what the go is, in
> regards to expenses and ethical standards.
> Why would he risk losing his job over a few thousand dollars?
> The expenses for the house really depends on the agreement that Daimler and
> Lieb had, is that place owned by Daimler or Lieb? If it is the property of
> the Daimer company then they should pay for any repairs and/or improvements.
> As far as coming up here for a beer and barbie goes, if he met with Daimler
> Oz employees or visited some showrooms whilst he was here, then it could be
> seen as a business trip.
> And why would Daimler remove someone who is good at their job and may be
> hard to replace, they could have asked Lieb to refund the money and given
> him a stern talking to, unless he was warned to be very careful in regards
> to using company funds.
>
> Hendrik
> who only has genuine expenses
>
> Mitch Haley wrote:
>
>> Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
>>
>>> Apparently he was great for the company. Might not have been a wise move
>>> to fire the guy.
>>>
>>
>> "You used company funds to fix the house that we bought you with company
>> funds" doesn't sound like much of an offense. Does he own the house now, or
>> does MBUSA own it?
>> That bit about visiting Australia on the company dime might be a bit
>> harder to explain away.
>>
>> Mitch.
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned/sin binned

[Hendrik & Fay]

Well at this stage it's all rumours and hearsay but I think there is 
more to this than a couple of dodgy expenses.
This fella is obviously pretty smart and would know what the go is, in 
regards to expenses and ethical standards.

Why would he risk losing his job over a few thousand dollars?
The expenses for the house really depends on the agreement that Daimler 
and Lieb had, is that place owned by Daimler or Lieb? If it is the 
property of the Daimer company then they should pay for any repairs 
and/or improvements.
As far as coming up here for a beer and barbie goes, if he met with 
Daimler Oz employees or visited some showrooms whilst he was here, then 
it could be seen as a business trip.
And why would Daimler remove someone who is good at their job and may be 
hard to replace, they could have asked Lieb to refund the money and 
given him a stern talking to, unless he was warned to be very careful in 
regards to using company funds.


Hendrik
who only has genuine expenses

Mitch Haley wrote:

Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
Apparently he was great for the company. Might not have been a wise 
move to fire the guy.


"You used company funds to fix the house that we bought you with 
company funds" doesn't sound like much of an offense. Does he own the 
house now, or does MBUSA own it?
That bit about visiting Australia on the company dime might be a bit 
harder to explain away.


Mitch.




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