Re: [MBZ] Molasses treatment for rust

2012-09-11 Thread Rich Thomas

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Molasses_Disaster

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Molasses treatment for rust

2012-09-11 Thread Dieselhead

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Molasses_Disaster

--R



Looks like an enginerror

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Re: [MBZ] Molasses treatment for rust

2012-09-11 Thread Fmiser
 Rich Thomas wrote:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Molasses_Disaster

Oiy!

I guess the saying slow as molasses in January is misplaced...

--Philip

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[MBZ] Molasses treatment for rust

2012-09-10 Thread Gerry Archer
This farmer, who runs four pickups on gasified wood, suggests using a 
mixture of water and molasses for rust.  Never heard of that before but it 
apparently works:


http://www.homercidal.com/molasses/

http://www.motherearthnews.com/wood-gas-adventures/wood-gas-with-wayne-keith.aspx

http://www.driveonwood.com/

Gerry 



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Re: [MBZ] Molasses treatment for rust

2012-09-10 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Yes, I've heard of it. Vinegar and Coca Cola work as well.

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On Sep 10, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:

This farmer, who runs four pickups on gasified wood, suggests using a mixture 
of water and molasses for rust.  Never heard of that before but it apparently 
works:

http://www.homercidal.com/molasses/

http://www.motherearthnews.com/wood-gas-adventures/wood-gas-with-wayne-keith.aspx

http://www.driveonwood.com/

Gerry 

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Re: [MBZ] Molasses treatment for rust

2012-09-10 Thread Curt Raymond
Sure, a chelation agent. Apparently RustBeeter is something similar.
I use citric acid to remove rust on lantern parts.

-Curt

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This farmer, who runs four pickups on gasified wood, suggests using a 
mixture of water and molasses for rust.  Never heard of that before but it 
apparently works:

http://www.homercidal.com/molasses/

http://www.motherearthnews.com/wood-gas-adventures/wood-gas-with-wayne-keith.aspx

http://www.driveonwood.com/

Gerry 


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Re: [MBZ] Molasses treatment for rust

2012-09-10 Thread Allan Streib

 molasses ... vinegar, coca cola

To remove rust, or prevent it?

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] Molasses treatment for rust

2012-09-10 Thread Gerry Archer
Supposedly to remove the oxygen from the iron oxide.  The only acid I found 
listed was  pyrrolidone carboxylic acid.

Not sure what the chelating agent would be in molasses:

..The total sugar content in molasses is approximately 50 %. Minor 
carbohydrates are glucose, fructose, raffinose and some other oligo- or 
polysaccharides. Their concentration is below 1 % and depends to a 
significant extent on the manufacturing process. Some of the minerals found 
in molasses are potassium followed by sodium, calcium and magnesium. Their 
content depends mainly on soil type and water availability. Additionally, 
the calcium and sodium content is influenced by processing practices. About 
20 % of the total mass consists of non-sucrose organic matter, in particular 
of non-protein nitrogen (NPN) containing substances, such as betaine. In 
addition molasses contains free and bound amino acids and pryrrolidone 
carboxylic acid (a conversion product of glutamine). In the manufacturing 
process most of the amino acids undergo changes so that less than the 
amounts expected from beet roots are found in molassessnip


Gerry


From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu

molasses ... vinegar, coca cola

To remove rust, or prevent it?
Allan
1983 300D
1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] Molasses treatment for rust

2012-09-10 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
They remove rust.

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On Sep 10, 2012, at 9:09 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:


molasses ... vinegar, coca cola

To remove rust, or prevent it?

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] Molasses treatment for rust

2012-09-10 Thread Fmiser
 Gerry Archer wrote:

 This farmer, who runs four pickups on gasified wood, suggests
 using a mixture of water and molasses for rust.  Never heard
 of that before but it apparently works:
 
 http://www.homercidal.com/molasses/
 
 http://www.motherearthnews.com/wood-gas-adventures/wood-gas-with-wayne-keith.aspx
 
 http://www.driveonwood.com/

Molasses is acidic.  Acids typically will dissolve rust.  And
the metal beneath it.  

That's the beauty of electrolysis method - the rust is converted
back to real iron with no danger ever of going too far.

--   Philip

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