Re: [MBZ] NOTOT Re: stupid new cars mostly OT now software rant

2017-01-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
"Once software is introduced into any system, the feature creep is never 
ending and uncontrollable.  (another corollary)"



Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
January 7, 2017 at 12:13 PM
https://www.engadget.com/2017/01/07/nvidias-helping-mercedes-build-artificially-intelligent-cars-t/ 






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[MBZ] NOTOT Re: stupid new cars mostly OT now software rant

2017-01-07 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

https://www.engadget.com/2017/01/07/nvidias-helping-mercedes-build-artificially-intelligent-cars-t/


On 1/7/17 12:30 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
The weakness of programmers (software engineers in their parlance) 
(smart morons in my parlance) is that in their world, IF something CAN 
be done with software, it MUST be done with software. (a programmer's 
corollary to Murphy's law.) Once software is introduced into any 
system, the feature creep is never ending and uncontrollable.  
(another corollary)If they could replace the internal combustion 
engine with electrons, they will (and are). If they could replace the 
whole vehicle with software, they WILL.


As soon as they learn a new trick, it WILL be put into the current 
project, even though it may be a total waste, or even detrimental to 
the project. (A programmer's corollary to Murphy's law.)


Even though a "good old lever or rotating knob would work a lot better 
than a switch and solenoid and motor with a microcontroller overseeing 
it all," we will be forced into overcomplicated electronic controls 
and systems...  "Because we CAN, We MUST!"


So far, few if any people can keep a software development within scope 
and budget.


Long live the 123, 124, and 126!

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
January 7, 2017 at 11:18 AM
A lot of that is the result of gummint mandates for fuel efficiency 
increases and safety nannies to make sure you have fastened your 
seatbelt and know how to work your brakes etc. While I guess the 
benefits of all that are reasonably good, having the various 
electrons whizzing around encourages the engineers to add other 
doodads to start and stop the car and to keep you in your lane and to 
make sure you screw on the gas cap tightly so as not to upset the 
evaporative emissions in Kollyfawnya.  Then it becomes a bit of an 
arms race to add features and functions to the radio and seats and 
whatnot, when a good old lever or rotating knob would work a lot 
better than a switch and solenoid and motor with a microcontroller 
overseeing it all.


I'm thinking the old TD, if it wasn't slowly succumbing to entropy, 
would be the ideal ride, aside from the heating AC controller it is 
quite agricultural and could run on most anything half combustible.


--R



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