[MBZ] Next finnie project for Poos

2019-05-11 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] Next finnie project for Poos

2019-05-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Pierre would probably kill me for saying this, but that’s a parts car, man.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Next finnie project for Poos

2019-05-11 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

$500.  Platform for a rat rod

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On 5/11/19 9:39 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Pierre would probably kill me for saying this, but that’s a parts car, man.

-D



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Re: [MBZ] Next finnie project for Poos

2019-05-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Better have the rat rod ready to drop on top of it.

-D


> On May 11, 2019, at 10:08 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> $500.  Platform for a rat rod
> 
> --FT
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> On 5/11/19 9:39 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Pierre would probably kill me for saying this, but that’s a parts car, man.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 11, 2019, at 9:36 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] Next finnie project for Poos

2019-05-11 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

"Removed air cleaner; got 40 HP more"

(can't read the engine tag; or do minimal research, either.   M180)


BUT it is the only one I have seen with the red bench front seat like my 
190Dc.


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Re: [MBZ] Next finnie project for Poos

2019-05-11 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Chevy 350 swap man!

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On 5/11/19 10:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Better have the rat rod ready to drop on top of it.

-D



On May 11, 2019, at 10:08 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:

$500.  Platform for a rat rod

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On 5/11/19 9:39 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Pierre would probably kill me for saying this, but that’s a parts car, man.

-D



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Re: [MBZ] Next finnie project for Poos

2019-05-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
M127 in that car. Later models would have had the M180.

-D


> On May 11, 2019, at 10:36 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> "Removed air cleaner; got 40 HP more"
> 
> (can't read the engine tag; or do minimal research, either.   M180)
> 
> 
> BUT it is the only one I have seen with the red bench front seat like my 
> 190Dc.
> 
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 5/11/19 8:36 AM:
>> 1962 Mercedes 220b **Price Reduced**
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Re: [MBZ] Next finnie project for Poos

2019-05-11 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Reminds me of the first Mercedes I ever looked at (and decided it was beyond my 
means to restore).
That one was a black 1962, maybe a little rustier, had all 4 original wheels, I 
think it was a Sb with four speed manual on the column. Might have made a fun 
ride for a 16 year old, but I'm 95% sure it would have made me penniless. 
Mitch. 

> On May 11, 2019 at 9:39 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> 
> Pierre would probably kill me for saying this, but that’s a parts car, man.
> > https://houston.craigslist.org/for/d/houston-1962-mercedes-220b-price-reduced/6872836438.html

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Re: [MBZ] Next finnie project for Poos

2019-05-11 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Bt.  M127 in fuel injected.   220b got a M180.   I had one of the 
first 220b cars to hit US shores.  The chassis number was 000499 and the 
M180 engine was 000999


Model   Years   Chassis codeEngine  Displ.  Power   Built
220 Sedan	8/59–8/65	111.010	M180.940 / R 6	2195 cc	95 PS (70 kW; 94 hp) 
69,691





Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 5/11/19 9:42 AM:

M127 in that car. Later models would have had the M180.

-D



On May 11, 2019, at 10:36 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:

"Removed air cleaner; got 40 HP more"

(can't read the engine tag; or do minimal research, either.   M180)


BUT it is the only one I have seen with the red bench front seat like my 190Dc.

Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 5/11/19 8:36 AM:

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Re: [MBZ] Next finnie project for Poos

2019-05-11 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
That sure looks like an M127 to me, but I’ll defer to your knowledge. I didn’t 
realize the M127 was FI only.

They did look very similar to each other

I wish the darned love bugs would go away. I’ve done all this work to the 
Finnie and I can’t drive it unless I want a layer of the little buggers all 
over the front of the car.

-D

> On May 11, 2019, at 11:27 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Bt.  M127 in fuel injected.   220b got a M180.   I had one of the first 
> 220b cars to hit US shores.  The chassis number was 000499 and the M180 
> engine was 000999
> 
> ModelYearsChassis codeEngineDispl.PowerBuilt
> 220 Sedan8/59–8/65111.010M180.940 / R 62195 cc95 PS (70 
> kW; 94 hp) 69,691
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 5/11/19 9:42 AM:
>> M127 in that car. Later models would have had the M180.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 11, 2019, at 10:36 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> "Removed air cleaner; got 40 HP more"
>>> 
>>> (can't read the engine tag; or do minimal research, either.   M180)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> BUT it is the only one I have seen with the red bench front seat like my 
>>> 190Dc.
>>> 
>>> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 5/11/19 8:36 AM:
 1962 Mercedes 220b **Price Reduced**
 
 https://houston.craigslist.org/for/d/houston-1962-mercedes-220b-price-reduced/6872836438.html
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Next finnie project for Poos

2019-05-11 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes


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M127 is simply a FI version of the M180.  M130 is an M180 with larger 
bore and stroke.  The Datsun 6 cyl of the 70s is a M180 knockoff.   The 
Datsun 4 cyl is a knockoff of the MB M120.




 M180

The original M180 engine was rated at 80 hp (60 kW). It powered theW187 
220sedan 
,coupé 
, andcabriolet 
(Type A and B) from 
1951 to 1955, theW180 
220a sedan, coupé, and 
cabriolet from 1954 to 1956 and theW105 
219 4-door sedan from 
1956 to 1959.


It also powered the MB Unimog 404s, the military all-round vehicle: It 
was built from 1955 until 1980.


It was used as a "Pritsche", for towing light guns and carrying their 
crew, as ambulance, Radio vehicle, Fire vehicle, especially at airports 
and airbases.


Other Unimogs, agricultural used, used already OM-type engines (Öl 
Motor, orDiesel engine ) 
but in the given period it should be more save, logistic reliable to use 
petrol engines for the military.



 M127

TheW180 Ponton 
220S Sedan, Coupe 
and Cabriolet of 1956-1959 benefited from the up-rated M180.924 which 
delivered 124 hp (92 kW; 126 PS). In 1958Bosch 
mechanical fuel 
injection was 
added to the 2.2-litre six and the engine, now giving 113–134 bhp 
(84–100 kW; 115–136 PS), was redesignated*M127*. The M127 was fitted to 
the last of the Pontons: the rare 1958 W128 220SE, of which fewer than 
4000 were produced.


In 1959 the first series ofW111 
"Fintail" 220SE and 
220SEb models was introduced, with thecarburetted 
M180 in the 220b and 220Sb and 
the M127 used in the 220SEb. The addition of the lower case ‘b’ was 
added to differentiate the Fintails from the earlier Pontons.


In 1965 the W111/W112 sedans were superseded by the newW108/109 
series 250 and 250S 
(apart from theW111 230/230S, 
produced from 1965 to 1968). The M180 was bored by 2 mm (0.079 in), 
creating an bore × stroke of 82 mm × 72.8 mm (3.23 in × 2.87 in) and 
displacement of 2.3 L; 140.8 cu in (2,307 cc). All models received the 
new 2.3 L engine.



 M129

The M180's stroke was increased to produce the 2.5 L engine for the 
newMercedes-Benz W108 
250S and 250SE. A 6 mm 
(0.24 in) increase resulted in a bore × stroke of 82 mm × 78.8 mm 
(3.23 in × 3.10 in) and displacement of 2.5 L; 152.3 cu in (2,496 cc), 
carburetted on the 250S and fuel-injected on the 250SE, designated 
the*M129*. The M129 was fitted with a mechanically controlled six-piston 
fuel injection pump. A change from four to seven main bearings was 
necessary in order smoothly to handle the resulting increase in power. A 
larger capacity oil pump was also specified.Connecting rods 
were slightly shortened, 
reflecting the 6 mm (0.24 in) longer stroke in a block of unchanged 
overall height. The redesignedcylinder heads 
incorporated larger ports, 
and the valve diameters were increased by 2 mm (0.079 in). On the fuel 
injected cars a six-plunger pump replaced the previous car's two plunger 
pump and the injectors were repositioned to give a more direct angle 
towards the inlet valve heads. The engine cooling fan now had six blades 
instead of four and incorporated a viscous coupling which activated the 
fan only when engine speed exceeded 3,000 rpm or the radiator water 
temperature reached a preset limit. The engine of the 250 S was called 
M108 (for W108 chassis) and only the 250 SE engine was designated M129.



 M130

In 1968 the ‘New Generation’ or /8 models were introduced, along with a 
change to the venerable mid-size six. The M180 engine of the 230/230S 
was continued in the W114 230 and 230.6, while the M180 of the 250S 
underwent a few changes an

Re: [MBZ] Next finnie project for Poos

2019-05-11 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Wife used something on the White Tornado that let her wash the love bugs off 
with a garden hose. It may have been the stuff for the windshield that makes 
the water bead up. Whatever she used didn't seem to affect the finish.

> That sure looks like an M127 to me, but I’ll defer to your knowledge. I 
> didn’t realize the M127 was FI only.
> 
> They did look very similar to each other
> 
> I wish the darned love bugs would go away. I’ve done all this work to the 
> Finnie and I can’t drive it unless I want a layer of the little buggers all 
> over the front of the car.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On May 11, 2019, at 11:27 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Bt.  M127 in fuel injected.   220b got a M180.   I had one of the first 
> > 220b cars to hit US shores.  The chassis number was 000499 and the M180 
> > engine was 000999
> > 
> > ModelYearsChassis codeEngineDispl.PowerBuilt
> > 220 Sedan8/59–8/65111.010M180.940 / R 62195 cc95 PS (70 
> > kW; 94 hp) 69,691
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 5/11/19 9:42 AM:
> >> M127 in that car. Later models would have had the M180.
> >> 
> >> -D
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On May 11, 2019, at 10:36 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> "Removed air cleaner; got 40 HP more"
> >>> 
> >>> (can't read the engine tag; or do minimal research, either.   M180)
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> BUT it is the only one I have seen with the red bench front seat like my 
> >>> 190Dc.
> >>> 
> >>> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 5/11/19 8:36 AM:
>  1962 Mercedes 220b **Price Reduced**
>  
>  https://houston.craigslist.org/for/d/houston-1962-mercedes-220b-price-reduced/6872836438.html
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Re: [MBZ] Next finnie project for Poos

2019-05-11 Thread Craig via Mercedes
> > On Sat, 11 May 2019 11:32:14 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > > I wish the darned love bugs would go away. I’ve done all this work
> > > to the Finnie and I can’t drive it unless I want a layer of the
> > > little buggers all over the front of the car.
> 
> On Sat, 11 May 2019 14:22:02 -0400 archer75--- via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > Wife used something on the White Tornado that let her wash the love
> > bugs off with a garden hose. It may have been the stuff for the
> > windshield that makes the water bead up. Whatever she used didn't seem
> > to affect the finish.

Try:

http://www.motorhome.com/tech/diy/splatter-free-surface-pronto/

http://www.procelle.com/

http://lovebugeraser.com/

http://www.motorhome.com/top-stories/bugging-out/

http://rejex.com/rejex-high-gloss-finish-that-protects


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Next finnie project for Poos

2019-05-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Nope. Not putting any of that stuff on my car. It can wait until the bugs 
clear. Should be a week or so and they’ll be gone.

-D


> On May 11, 2019, at 2:48 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
>>> On Sat, 11 May 2019 11:32:14 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 I wish the darned love bugs would go away. I’ve done all this work
 to the Finnie and I can’t drive it unless I want a layer of the
 little buggers all over the front of the car.
>> 
>> On Sat, 11 May 2019 14:22:02 -0400 archer75--- via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Wife used something on the White Tornado that let her wash the love
>>> bugs off with a garden hose. It may have been the stuff for the
>>> windshield that makes the water bead up. Whatever she used didn't seem
>>> to affect the finish.
> 
> Try:
> 
> http://www.motorhome.com/tech/diy/splatter-free-surface-pronto/
> 
> http://www.procelle.com/
> 
> http://lovebugeraser.com/
> 
> http://www.motorhome.com/top-stories/bugging-out/
> 
> http://rejex.com/rejex-high-gloss-finish-that-protects
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Next finnie project for Poos

2019-05-11 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes

Hi Diana,
Here's some stuff to try if the love bugs get bad
Love, Pop 

Dan wrote:
> > > > I wish the darned love bugs would go away. I’ve done all this work
> > > > to the Finnie and I can’t drive it unless I want a layer of the
> > > > little buggers all over the front of the car.
> 
> Try:
> 
> http://www.motorhome.com/tech/diy/splatter-free-surface-pronto/
> 
> http://www.procelle.com/
> 
> http://lovebugeraser.com/
> 
> http://www.motorhome.com/top-stories/bugging-out/
> 
> http://rejex.com/rejex-high-gloss-finish-that-protects
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Next finnie project for Poos

2019-05-11 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

the last link, rejex, looks pretty good.

Try:

http://www.motorhome.com/tech/diy/splatter-free-surface-pronto/

http://www.procelle.com/

http://lovebugeraser.com/

http://www.motorhome.com/top-stories/bugging-out/

http://rejex.com/rejex-high-gloss-finish-that-protects


Craig





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Re: [MBZ] Next finnie project for Poos

2019-05-11 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
 
> > > > I wish the darned love bugs would go away. I’ve done all this work
> > > > to the Finnie and I can’t drive it unless I want a layer of the
> > > > little buggers all over the front of the car.
 Dan

> Try:
> 
> http://www.motorhome.com/tech/diy/splatter-free-surface-pronto/
> 
> http://www.procelle.com/
> 
> http://lovebugeraser.com/
> 
> http://www.motorhome.com/top-stories/bugging-out/
> 
> http://rejex.com/rejex-high-gloss-finish-that-protects
> 
> Craig


Thanks, Craig.
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] Next finnie project for Poos

2019-05-12 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
I have used Rejex in the past. It works okay.

http://rejex.com/rejex-high-gloss-finish-that-protects

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Next finnie project for Poos

2019-05-13 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 11 May 2019 23:41:54 -0400 archer75--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

>  
> > > > > I wish the darned love bugs would go away. I’ve done all this
> > > > > work to the Finnie and I can’t drive it unless I want a layer
> > > > > of the little buggers all over the front of the car.
>  Dan
> 
> > Try:
> > 
> > http://www.motorhome.com/tech/diy/splatter-free-surface-pronto/
> > 
> > http://www.procelle.com/
> > 
> > http://lovebugeraser.com/
> > 
> > http://www.motorhome.com/top-stories/bugging-out/
> > 
> > http://rejex.com/rejex-high-gloss-finish-that-protects
> > 
> > Craig
> 
> 
> Thanks, Craig.
> Gerry

You are most welcome, Gerry. I'm glad to see the information I gathered
is helping someone.

BTW, you sent a message to the List with the greeting,

  Hi Diana,
  Here's some stuff to try if the love bugs get bad
  Love, Pop 

Did you send it to Diana separately, or do you need to send it to her now?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Next finnie project for Poos

2019-05-13 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
On Mon, 13 May 2019 06:46:48 -0600
Craig via Mercedes  wrote:

> On Sat, 11 May 2019 23:41:54 -0400 archer75--- via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> >  
> > > > > > I wish the darned love bugs would go away. I’ve done all this
> > > > > > work to the Finnie and I can’t drive it unless I want a layer
> > > > > > of the little buggers all over the front of the car.
> >  Dan
> > 
> > > Try:
> > > 
> > > http://www.motorhome.com/tech/diy/splatter-free-surface-pronto/
> > > 
> > > http://www.procelle.com/
> > > 
> > > http://lovebugeraser.com/
> > > 
> > > http://www.motorhome.com/top-stories/bugging-out/
> > > 
> > > http://rejex.com/rejex-high-gloss-finish-that-protects
> > > 
> > > Craig
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks, Craig.
> > Gerry
> 
> You are most welcome, Gerry. I'm glad to see the information I gathered
> is helping someone.
> 
> BTW, you sent a message to the List with the greeting,
> 
>   Hi Diana,
>   Here's some stuff to try if the love bugs get bad
>   Love, Pop 
> 
> Did you send it to Diana separately, or do you need to send it to her now?

My bad! I forgot to put her address on it in place of the groups address. After 
I saw what I had done, I decided to wait until I had chosen a particular 
product to write her, so I didn't send it. 
Thanks for reminding me Craig.
Gerry

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