Re: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey

2016-10-13 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
It should have lower compression due to the head gasket leak, not the
ovalled cylinders. If it is sucking oil or coolant into the cylinder, it
should also leak ait out when you check the compression.

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> It is is really bad, yes, but not if it is not really bad yet.  Cyl could
> be ovalled, but not show yet on compression.
>
> OK Don via Mercedes 
>> October 13, 2016 at 2:15 PM
>> Compression check?
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>>
>>
>> Curley McLain 
>> October 13, 2016 at 1:46 PM
>> How do you tell if it is ok now without taking the head off?   If the
>> seller slips up and says it burns oil or loses antifreeze, you know it is
>> not good.  But there is no way to know if it is good without measuring the
>> cylinder that I know of.
>>
>>
>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>> October 13, 2016 at 1:34 PM
>> If it's OK now, wouldn't it be worth rescuing before it goes bad?
>>
>> --R
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> October 13, 2016 at 12:32 PM
>> Talked to the owner just now. Engine has never been opened. Ouch. He
>> knows about the OM603 issues.
>>
>> "Just drive it until it starts leaking. Then replace the head gasket!"
>>
>> Yeah, right.
>>
>> Moving on...,
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
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>> Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>> October 12, 2016 at 8:50 PM
>> I took the head off a rod bender 140 that showed up at LKQ, the head
>> gasket had failed at the oil gallery in front of the #1 cylinder. I took
>> the head home anyway. Just about heat stroked out, working solo on a
>> summers day...
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey

2016-10-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Again, that can prove a problem, but you can't prove/confirm there is no 
problem that way.



Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
October 13, 2016 at 5:32 PM

On October 13, 2016 at 5:27 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes
  wrote:



Yes, you could pull GP, nozzles, and prechambers and use a micrometer
depth gauge to determine distance to piston top at TDC, but carbon could
throw off the reading.  You could get false positive or false negative.


You could take apart #1 and another cylinder, if #1 looks messier with a
boroscope you might assume it's got the leak.

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Curley McLain 
October 13, 2016 at 4:27 PM
You only see bubbles if compression is leaking into the coolant 
badly.  If it is leaking oil into the cylinder, you won't see bubbles 
in the cyl.


These are indications of a problem that is bad, but I still contend 
that you can't prove it is good without taking the head off.


Yes, you could pull GP, nozzles, and prechambers and use a micrometer 
depth gauge to determine distance to piston top at TDC, but carbon 
could throw off the reading.  You could get false positive or false 
negative.



Dan--- via Mercedes 
October 13, 2016 at 2:21 PM
But will a compression check really tell you anything? If it was 
leaking, wouldn't you see bubbles in the coolant?


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OK Don via Mercedes 
October 13, 2016 at 2:15 PM
Compression check?

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Curley McLain 
October 13, 2016 at 1:46 PM
How do you tell if it is ok now without taking the head off?   If the 
seller slips up and says it burns oil or loses antifreeze, you know it 
is not good.  But there is no way to know if it is good without 
measuring the cylinder that I know of.





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Re: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey

2016-10-13 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
To paraphrase:
"Just drive it until you see blue smoke or notice oil loss. 
Then replace the head gasket and sell it quickly"

Mitch. 


> On October 13, 2016 at 1:32 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Talked to the owner just now. Engine has never been opened. Ouch. He knows
> about the OM603 issues.
> 
> "Just drive it until it starts leaking. Then replace the head gasket!"

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Re: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey

2016-10-13 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

> On October 13, 2016 at 5:27 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes
>  wrote:

> Yes, you could pull GP, nozzles, and prechambers and use a micrometer 
> depth gauge to determine distance to piston top at TDC, but carbon could 
> throw off the reading.  You could get false positive or false negative.

You could take apart #1 and another cylinder, if #1 looks messier with a
boroscope you might assume it's got the leak.

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Re: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey

2016-10-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
You only see bubbles if compression is leaking into the coolant badly.  
If it is leaking oil into the cylinder, you won't see bubbles in the cyl.


These are indications of a problem that is bad, but I still contend that 
you can't prove it is good without taking the head off.


Yes, you could pull GP, nozzles, and prechambers and use a micrometer 
depth gauge to determine distance to piston top at TDC, but carbon could 
throw off the reading.  You could get false positive or false negative.



Dan--- via Mercedes 
October 13, 2016 at 2:21 PM
But will a compression check really tell you anything? If it was 
leaking, wouldn't you see bubbles in the coolant?


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OK Don via Mercedes 
October 13, 2016 at 2:15 PM
Compression check?

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Curley McLain 
October 13, 2016 at 1:46 PM
How do you tell if it is ok now without taking the head off?   If the 
seller slips up and says it burns oil or loses antifreeze, you know it 
is not good.  But there is no way to know if it is good without 
measuring the cylinder that I know of.



Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
October 13, 2016 at 1:34 PM
If it's OK now, wouldn't it be worth rescuing before it goes bad?

--R




Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
October 13, 2016 at 12:32 PM
Talked to the owner just now. Engine has never been opened. Ouch. He 
knows about the OM603 issues.


"Just drive it until it starts leaking. Then replace the head gasket!"

Yeah, right.

Moving on...,

Dan



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Re: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey

2016-10-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
It is is really bad, yes, but not if it is not really bad yet.  Cyl 
could be ovalled, but not show yet on compression.



OK Don via Mercedes 
October 13, 2016 at 2:15 PM
Compression check?

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <


Curley McLain 
October 13, 2016 at 1:46 PM
How do you tell if it is ok now without taking the head off?   If the 
seller slips up and says it burns oil or loses antifreeze, you know it 
is not good.  But there is no way to know if it is good without 
measuring the cylinder that I know of.



Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
October 13, 2016 at 1:34 PM
If it's OK now, wouldn't it be worth rescuing before it goes bad?

--R




Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
October 13, 2016 at 12:32 PM
Talked to the owner just now. Engine has never been opened. Ouch. He 
knows about the OM603 issues.


"Just drive it until it starts leaking. Then replace the head gasket!"

Yeah, right.

Moving on...,

Dan



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Max Dillon via Mercedes 
October 12, 2016 at 8:50 PM
I took the head off a rod bender 140 that showed up at LKQ, the head 
gasket had failed at the oil gallery in front of the #1 cylinder. I 
took the head home anyway. Just about heat stroked out, working solo 
on a summers day...


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Re: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey

2016-10-13 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
But will a compression check really tell you anything?  If it was leaking, 
wouldn't you see bubbles in the coolant?

Dan

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> On Oct 13, 2016, at 3:15 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Compression check?
> 
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> How do you tell if it is ok now without taking the head off?   If the
>> seller slips up and says it burns oil or loses antifreeze, you know it is
>> not good.  But there is no way to know if it is good without measuring the
>> cylinder that I know of.
>> 
>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>> October 13, 2016 at 1:34 PM
>>> If it's OK now, wouldn't it be worth rescuing before it goes bad?
>>> 
>>> --R
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Re: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey

2016-10-13 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Compression check?

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> How do you tell if it is ok now without taking the head off?   If the
> seller slips up and says it burns oil or loses antifreeze, you know it is
> not good.  But there is no way to know if it is good without measuring the
> cylinder that I know of.
>
> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>> October 13, 2016 at 1:34 PM
>> If it's OK now, wouldn't it be worth rescuing before it goes bad?
>>
>> --R
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey

2016-10-13 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Mebbe.

I'm away next week, so I wouldn't be able to see it anyway.  I may wait until 
the end of the week and see if he gets any takers. I'm pretty sure it will get 
grabbed up quickly considering the condition and provenance.  Too many people 
out there who either don't know about these cars or will roll the dice at this 
point.

Dan

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> On Oct 13, 2016, at 2:34 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If it's OK now, wouldn't it be worth rescuing before it goes bad?
> 
> --R
> 
> 
>> On 10/13/16 1:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Talked to the owner just now. Engine has never been opened. Ouch. He knows 
>> about the OM603 issues.
>> 
>> "Just drive it until it starts leaking. Then replace the head gasket!"
>> 
>> Yeah, right.
>> 
>> Moving on...,
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>>> On Oct 12, 2016, at 9:50 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I took the head off a rod bender 140 that showed up at LKQ, the head gasket 
>>> had failed at the oil gallery in front of the #1 cylinder.  I took the head 
>>> home anyway.  Just about heat stroked out, working solo on a summers day...
>>> -- 
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> '87 300TD
>>> '95 E300
>>> 
 On October 12, 2016 9:03:03 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 Hey, Kaleb, what was leaking on your rodbender, oil or zerex?
 
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey

2016-10-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
How do you tell if it is ok now without taking the head off?   If the 
seller slips up and says it burns oil or loses antifreeze, you know it 
is not good.  But there is no way to know if it is good without 
measuring the cylinder that I know of.



Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
October 13, 2016 at 1:34 PM
If it's OK now, wouldn't it be worth rescuing before it goes bad?

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Re: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey

2016-10-13 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

If it's OK now, wouldn't it be worth rescuing before it goes bad?

--R


On 10/13/16 1:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Talked to the owner just now. Engine has never been opened. Ouch. He knows 
about the OM603 issues.

"Just drive it until it starts leaking. Then replace the head gasket!"

Yeah, right.

Moving on...,

Dan


On Oct 12, 2016, at 9:50 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
wrote:

I took the head off a rod bender 140 that showed up at LKQ, the head gasket had 
failed at the oil gallery in front of the #1 cylinder.  I took the head home 
anyway.  Just about heat stroked out, working solo on a summers day...
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300


On October 12, 2016 9:03:03 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
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Hey, Kaleb, what was leaking on your rodbender, oil or zerex?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey

2016-10-13 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 13/10/2016 12:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Talked to the owner just now. Engine has never been opened. Ouch. He knows 
about the OM603 issues.

"Just drive it until it starts leaking. Then replace the head gasket!"

Yeah, right.

Moving on...,

Dan



Offer less, and then fix it if you get it.

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Re: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey

2016-10-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Talked to the owner just now. Engine has never been opened. Ouch. He knows 
about the OM603 issues.

"Just drive it until it starts leaking. Then replace the head gasket!"

Yeah, right.

Moving on...,

Dan

> On Oct 12, 2016, at 9:50 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I took the head off a rod bender 140 that showed up at LKQ, the head gasket 
> had failed at the oil gallery in front of the #1 cylinder.  I took the head 
> home anyway.  Just about heat stroked out, working solo on a summers day...
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
>> On October 12, 2016 9:03:03 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
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>> Hey, Kaleb, what was leaking on your rodbender, oil or zerex?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey

2016-10-12 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I took the head off a rod bender 140 that showed up at LKQ, the head gasket had 
failed at the oil gallery in front of the #1 cylinder.  I took the head home 
anyway.  Just about heat stroked out, working solo on a summers day...
-- 
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Charleston SC
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'95 E300

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>Hey, Kaleb, what was leaking on your rodbender, oil or zerex?
>
>Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey

2016-10-12 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Hey, Kaleb, what was leaking on your rodbender, oil or zerex?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey

2016-10-12 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

> On October 12, 2016 at 7:09 PM Dan--- via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> But is that really all that is necessary?  Nothing beyond a head gasket and
> you're good?

I'm pretty sure nobody found any rods but number one and rarely number two bent,
and nobody claims to have found bent rods on a car with intact sealing on the
oil galley through the head gasket by cylinder one. The head might need to be
milled, the head bolts definitely need to be replaced when you take the head
off, but I'd be willing to regasket a 350 and drive it 100k to see what happens.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey

2016-10-12 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Indications are that the bent #1 rod comes from coolant leaking into the 
#1 cylinder when the head gasket fails.   No proof.  If I found a 
non-oel burning rodbender, I might try just changing the head gasket.  
If I did not have 2 good spare engines, I would change the head gasket 
for sure!  I'd guess 90-95% probability that would fix it so long as 
there is no prior damage.



Dan--- via Mercedes 
October 12, 2016 at 6:09 PM
But is that really all that is necessary? Nothing beyond a head gasket 
and you're good?


Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey

2016-10-12 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
But is that really all that is necessary?  Nothing beyond a head gasket and 
you're good?

Dan

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> If I bought a 45kmi rodbender, I'd trailer it home and replace the head 
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Re: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey

2016-10-12 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

I like that color combo

--FT


On 10/12/16 4:54 PM, Daniel Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5814382856.html

The quarter sized rust spot below the back window is troubling as is the low 
mileage.  I’m wondering if the rod bending issues have been addressed.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey

2016-10-12 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
If I bought a 45kmi rodbender, I'd trailer it home and replace the head gasket.

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Re: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey

2016-10-12 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
The seller claims in its been in the family since new.  If they have records 
showing a new head/engine/rods  etc, then that car is an absolute steal.   I 
agree with you, if it has never been addressed it is just a matter of time.  In 
fact, it makes more sense that it has not failed yet considering such low 
mileage.  Remember what Dr. Booth said, if the issue has not been addressed 
then they ALL fail without exception.  

I was at an Auction last year and a very nice super clean 90 300E (124) with 
only 60,000 miles sold for $9,000.  I thought it would go for $6000 or maybe 
$7,000 if there was a bidding war.  I can only imagine what a 126 Diesel with 
45,000 miles could do at a big auction.  A lot of low mileage cars are bought 
at these auctions by dealers who put them on ebay for insane prices.  If I had 
that car and the rodbender issue had been fixed, I wouldn't take less than 
$10,000 for it.  There are enough people out there who love MB diesels and love 
the 126 that I think it could go HIGH! 

Don Snook 

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If the rod bending aspect of things hasn’t been addressed, it’s a time bomb 
waiting for a rebuild.

Dan


>> 
>> On Oct 12, 2016, at 5:17 PM, Donald Snook <d...@snooklawllc.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Pricey? With 45,000 miles?   That sounds like a steal.  Seriously.  Unless 
>> it has bent rods or they have never been addressed.  If the rodbender issue 
>> has been done, you should run over to pay for it!  
>> 
>> Looking at the condition, the mileage could be correct.  Sheesh if I had my 
>> BMW sold I would be paying you to go over and do an inspection on it.  
>> 
>> Don Snook 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Daniel Penoff [mailto:dpen...@me.com] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 3:55 PM
>> To: Mercedes List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> Subject: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey
>> 
>> http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5814382856.html
>> 
>> The quarter sized rust spot below the back window is troubling as is the low 
>> mileage.  I’m wondering if the rod bending issues have been addressed.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey

2016-10-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Otoh, without documentation the mileage could easily be wrong. How long
does it take to swap out a speedometer in those cars?

On Oct 12, 2016 5:22 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> If the rod bending aspect of things hasn’t been addressed, it’s a time
> bomb waiting for a rebuild.
>
> Dan
>
>
> >>
> >> On Oct 12, 2016, at 5:17 PM, Donald Snook <d...@snooklawllc.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Pricey? With 45,000 miles?   That sounds like a steal.  Seriously.
> Unless it has bent rods or they have never been addressed.  If the
> rodbender issue has been done, you should run over to pay for it!
> >>
> >> Looking at the condition, the mileage could be correct.  Sheesh if I
> had my BMW sold I would be paying you to go over and do an inspection on it.
> >>
> >> Don Snook
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Daniel Penoff [mailto:dpen...@me.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 3:55 PM
> >> To: Mercedes List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> Subject: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey
> >>
> >> http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5814382856.html
> >>
> >> The quarter sized rust spot below the back window is troubling as is
> the low mileage.  I’m wondering if the rod bending issues have been
> addressed.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey

2016-10-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
If the rod bending aspect of things hasn’t been addressed, it’s a time bomb 
waiting for a rebuild.

Dan


>> 
>> On Oct 12, 2016, at 5:17 PM, Donald Snook <d...@snooklawllc.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Pricey? With 45,000 miles?   That sounds like a steal.  Seriously.  Unless 
>> it has bent rods or they have never been addressed.  If the rodbender issue 
>> has been done, you should run over to pay for it!  
>> 
>> Looking at the condition, the mileage could be correct.  Sheesh if I had my 
>> BMW sold I would be paying you to go over and do an inspection on it.  
>> 
>> Don Snook 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Daniel Penoff [mailto:dpen...@me.com] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 3:55 PM
>> To: Mercedes List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> Subject: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey
>> 
>> http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5814382856.html
>> 
>> The quarter sized rust spot below the back window is troubling as is the low 
>> mileage.  I’m wondering if the rod bending issues have been addressed.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey

2016-10-12 Thread Daniel Penoff via Mercedes
Yeah, it looks pretty nice.  I may call the guy and see what I can find out.  
He’s in CT right now and the car is here.  He’s looking to set up a meet in a 
couple of weeks when he’s here.

Dan


> On Oct 12, 2016, at 5:17 PM, Donald Snook <d...@snooklawllc.com> wrote:
> 
> Pricey? With 45,000 miles?   That sounds like a steal.  Seriously.  Unless it 
> has bent rods or they have never been addressed.  If the rodbender issue has 
> been done, you should run over to pay for it!  
> 
> Looking at the condition, the mileage could be correct.  Sheesh if I had my 
> BMW sold I would be paying you to go over and do an inspection on it.  
> 
> Don Snook 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Penoff [mailto:dpen...@me.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 3:55 PM
> To: Mercedes List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Subject: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey
> 
> http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5814382856.html
> 
> The quarter sized rust spot below the back window is troubling as is the low 
> mileage.  I’m wondering if the rod bending issues have been addressed.
> 
> Dan
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey

2016-10-12 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
Pricey? With 45,000 miles?   That sounds like a steal.  Seriously.  Unless it 
has bent rods or they have never been addressed.  If the rodbender issue has 
been done, you should run over to pay for it!  

Looking at the condition, the mileage could be correct.  Sheesh if I had my BMW 
sold I would be paying you to go over and do an inspection on it.  

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Penoff [mailto:dpen...@me.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 3:55 PM
To: Mercedes List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Subject: [MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey

http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5814382856.html

The quarter sized rust spot below the back window is troubling as is the low 
mileage.  I’m wondering if the rod bending issues have been addressed.

Dan

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[MBZ] Nice, A Little Pricey

2016-10-12 Thread Daniel Penoff via Mercedes
http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5814382856.html

The quarter sized rust spot below the back window is troubling as is the low 
mileage.  I’m wondering if the rod bending issues have been addressed.

Dan
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