Re: [MBZ] Not 240
Don't belittle the importance of being able to TALK about this seemingly small little "issue'". Give thanks that we are unlike the ethnically diverse folks in the nation formerly known as Yugoslavia who look alike but whose different religions and cultural heritage gives them license to murder one another in an endless cycle of violence. On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 10:38 PM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For those who choose to categorize themselves with a hyphenated name, > > is the > > reason they usually put Americian second due to their feeling it rolls > > off > > the tongue easier, or is it by design? I would think most would want > > to put > > the name of the country they make their home first. > > In English, the most important part goes last. > For example: Big Jerk. :-) > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> For those who choose to categorize themselves with a hyphenated name, > is the > reason they usually put Americian second due to their feeling it rolls > off > the tongue easier, or is it by design? I would think most would want > to put > the name of the country they make their home first. In English, the most important part goes last. For example: Big Jerk. :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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i come from a family and a neighborhood that were proud to be americans. we didn't hyphenate anything. hell, i was practically a bircher. today, i wear a bag over my head and have nothing but disgust and contempt. but i hide it well if blacks want to change their name every few years, i guess i'll just have to live with it. i've certainly had to live with far worse than that. On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 8:23 PM, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For those who choose to categorize themselves with a hyphenated name, is > the > reason they usually put Americian second due to their feeling it rolls off > the tongue easier, or is it by design? I would think most would want to > put > the name of the country they make their home first. > > Ed > 300E > > On 14/02/2008, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > it just sounds like insanity to me. we ought discourage people from > doing > > this, whether it is the blacks themselves or a media effort to further > > confuse us. it is also interesting that we now settle on "african > > american" > > which is filled with logical problems that cause us to revert to "black > " > > anyway. > > > > if a north african berber of a south african white moves to the usa and > > becomes a citizen, he is not an "african american" because he is not > > "black". i know that there are many educated people on this list who > have > > not been completely victimized by the school system so i imagine this > > logic > > has to be troubling for many of us. > > > > i mean, doesn't institutionalized nonsense bother you guys? > > > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 6:06 PM, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > A lot of it seems to be media driven. There is such an effort not to > > > offend anyone these days that the press keeps > > > endorsing new descriptions. Someone decides that Negro is not a good > > word > > > so then they use Black, then that is not > > > acceptable and we have African American. Some probably try to use it > to > > > their advantage but the rank and file black > > > people could probably care less so long as it does not appear to be > > > deliberatly derogatory. > > > > > > Randy > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel > > > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 4:54 PM > > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Not 240 > > > > > > > > > They don't AFAIK. Who is "they" anyway? Aren't you generalizing/ > > > stereotyping? > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > well, if you know why they keep changing names, please explain it to > > us. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:44 PM, andrew strasfogel < > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Somehow that doesn't bother me, even if it were true (which it > > isn't). > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Gary Hurst < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > somehow blacks have become convinced that changing their name > > every > > > > few > > > > > > years will somehow benefit them. i can't make heads or tails of > > it > > > > > > either. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Jim Cathey < > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...Whites should be called "European American". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, I can see that. WTF do you call a black guy who > > > > > > > is neither African, nor American? It's stupid. There > > > > > > > was nothing wrong with Negro. And if you don't like > > > > > > > French (or was it Spanish?), there was always the English > > > > > > > term: Black. Also a peeve, _I_ am a native American. > > > > > > > Most are, they were born there after all. The aboriginal > > > > > > > races are _not_ entitled
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For those who choose to categorize themselves with a hyphenated name, is the reason they usually put Americian second due to their feeling it rolls off the tongue easier, or is it by design? I would think most would want to put the name of the country they make their home first. Ed 300E On 14/02/2008, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > it just sounds like insanity to me. we ought discourage people from doing > this, whether it is the blacks themselves or a media effort to further > confuse us. it is also interesting that we now settle on "african > american" > which is filled with logical problems that cause us to revert to "black " > anyway. > > if a north african berber of a south african white moves to the usa and > becomes a citizen, he is not an "african american" because he is not > "black". i know that there are many educated people on this list who have > not been completely victimized by the school system so i imagine this > logic > has to be troubling for many of us. > > i mean, doesn't institutionalized nonsense bother you guys? > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 6:06 PM, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > A lot of it seems to be media driven. There is such an effort not to > > offend anyone these days that the press keeps > > endorsing new descriptions. Someone decides that Negro is not a good > word > > so then they use Black, then that is not > > acceptable and we have African American. Some probably try to use it to > > their advantage but the rank and file black > > people could probably care less so long as it does not appear to be > > deliberatly derogatory. > > > > Randy > > > > -Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel > > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 4:54 PM > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Not 240 > > > > > > They don't AFAIK. Who is "they" anyway? Aren't you generalizing/ > > stereotyping? > > > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > well, if you know why they keep changing names, please explain it to > us. > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:44 PM, andrew strasfogel < > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Somehow that doesn't bother me, even if it were true (which it > isn't). > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > somehow blacks have become convinced that changing their name > every > > > few > > > > > years will somehow benefit them. i can't make heads or tails of > it > > > > > either. > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Jim Cathey < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ...Whites should be called "European American". > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, I can see that. WTF do you call a black guy who > > > > > > is neither African, nor American? It's stupid. There > > > > > > was nothing wrong with Negro. And if you don't like > > > > > > French (or was it Spanish?), there was always the English > > > > > > term: Black. Also a peeve, _I_ am a native American. > > > > > > Most are, they were born there after all. The aboriginal > > > > > > races are _not_ entitled to exclusive use of that name! > > > > > > Sheesh. People need to get a life and stop dwelling on > > > > > > the mistakes made by a bunch of dead people. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now where's my Kevlar underwear?... > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > __
Re: [MBZ] Not 240
I am a Euro-[Pre-European-Invader Indigenous Native] - American. --R Chuck Landenberger wrote: > Gary, > > Just be yourself and let it go at that! > > Chuck > Phoenix AZ > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not 240
Gary, Just be yourself and let it go at that! Chuck Phoenix AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not 240
i remember in the limited time i spent in the corporate world, orwellian doublespeak was the order of the day. i never really got a feel as to whether people actually believe the nonsense they are fed or that they are just so terrorized that they dare not question it. can i be a hungarian american if my mother was from slovakia? can i be a slovak american if i don't like hockey? what about all the great slovak hockey players in the nhl who are to this day referred to as "czech"? if i keep asking these questions, can i get something for nothing? i live in an insane world and i don't like it On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gary, > > YUP, at least this guy!! > > Chuck > Phoenix AZ > > PS. And why can't this intelligent group of "guys" trim their > Reply posts BTW, "guys" is asexual! > > On Feb 14, 2008, at 4:09 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: > > > > i mean, doesn't institutionalized nonsense bother you guys? > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not 240
Gary, YUP, at least this guy!! Chuck Phoenix AZ PS. And why can't this intelligent group of "guys" trim their Reply posts BTW, "guys" is asexual! On Feb 14, 2008, at 4:09 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: > > i mean, doesn't institutionalized nonsense bother you guys? > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not 240
it just sounds like insanity to me. we ought discourage people from doing this, whether it is the blacks themselves or a media effort to further confuse us. it is also interesting that we now settle on "african american" which is filled with logical problems that cause us to revert to "black " anyway. if a north african berber of a south african white moves to the usa and becomes a citizen, he is not an "african american" because he is not "black". i know that there are many educated people on this list who have not been completely victimized by the school system so i imagine this logic has to be troubling for many of us. i mean, doesn't institutionalized nonsense bother you guys? On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 6:06 PM, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A lot of it seems to be media driven. There is such an effort not to > offend anyone these days that the press keeps > endorsing new descriptions. Someone decides that Negro is not a good word > so then they use Black, then that is not > acceptable and we have African American. Some probably try to use it to > their advantage but the rank and file black > people could probably care less so long as it does not appear to be > deliberatly derogatory. > > Randy > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 4:54 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Not 240 > > > They don't AFAIK. Who is "they" anyway? Aren't you generalizing/ > stereotyping? > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > well, if you know why they keep changing names, please explain it to us. > > > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:44 PM, andrew strasfogel < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Somehow that doesn't bother me, even if it were true (which it isn't). > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > somehow blacks have become convinced that changing their name every > > few > > > > years will somehow benefit them. i can't make heads or tails of it > > > > either. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ...Whites should be called "European American". > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, I can see that. WTF do you call a black guy who > > > > > is neither African, nor American? It's stupid. There > > > > > was nothing wrong with Negro. And if you don't like > > > > > French (or was it Spanish?), there was always the English > > > > > term: Black. Also a peeve, _I_ am a native American. > > > > > Most are, they were born there after all. The aboriginal > > > > > races are _not_ entitled to exclusive use of that name! > > > > > Sheesh. People need to get a life and stop dwelling on > > > > > the mistakes made by a bunch of dead people. > > > > > > > > > > Now where's my Kevlar underwear?... > > > > > > > > > > -- Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > __
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A lot of it seems to be media driven. There is such an effort not to offend anyone these days that the press keeps endorsing new descriptions. Someone decides that Negro is not a good word so then they use Black, then that is not acceptable and we have African American. Some probably try to use it to their advantage but the rank and file black people could probably care less so long as it does not appear to be deliberatly derogatory. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 4:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Not 240 They don't AFAIK. Who is "they" anyway? Aren't you generalizing/ stereotyping? On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > well, if you know why they keep changing names, please explain it to us. > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:44 PM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Somehow that doesn't bother me, even if it were true (which it isn't). > > > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > somehow blacks have become convinced that changing their name every > few > > > years will somehow benefit them. i can't make heads or tails of it > > > either. > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > ...Whites should be called "European American". > > > > > > > > Yeah, I can see that. WTF do you call a black guy who > > > > is neither African, nor American? It's stupid. There > > > > was nothing wrong with Negro. And if you don't like > > > > French (or was it Spanish?), there was always the English > > > > term: Black. Also a peeve, _I_ am a native American. > > > > Most are, they were born there after all. The aboriginal > > > > races are _not_ entitled to exclusive use of that name! > > > > Sheesh. People need to get a life and stop dwelling on > > > > the mistakes made by a bunch of dead people. > > > > > > > > Now where's my Kevlar underwear?... > > > > > > > > -- Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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they are those i generally call "blacks" because that is what they went by when i was growing up. in my parent's generation they were called "colored" in polite company. in old videos, they call themselves "negro." for a while, they liked "afro-american" but that is no good today, when they seem to like to be called "african american." why can't they settle on what they want to be called already so we can know this and move on? this endless name changing is madness. On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:53 PM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They don't AFAIK. Who is "they" anyway? Aren't you generalizing/ > stereotyping? > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > well, if you know why they keep changing names, please explain it to us. > > > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:44 PM, andrew strasfogel < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Somehow that doesn't bother me, even if it were true (which it isn't). > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > somehow blacks have become convinced that changing their name every > > few > > > > years will somehow benefit them. i can't make heads or tails of it > > > > either. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ...Whites should be called "European American". > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, I can see that. WTF do you call a black guy who > > > > > is neither African, nor American? It's stupid. There > > > > > was nothing wrong with Negro. And if you don't like > > > > > French (or was it Spanish?), there was always the English > > > > > term: Black. Also a peeve, _I_ am a native American. > > > > > Most are, they were born there after all. The aboriginal > > > > > races are _not_ entitled to exclusive use of that name! > > > > > Sheesh. People need to get a life and stop dwelling on > > > > > the mistakes made by a bunch of dead people. > > > > > > > > > > Now where's my Kevlar underwear?... > > > > > > > > > > -- Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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They don't AFAIK. Who is "they" anyway? Aren't you generalizing/ stereotyping? On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > well, if you know why they keep changing names, please explain it to us. > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:44 PM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Somehow that doesn't bother me, even if it were true (which it isn't). > > > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > somehow blacks have become convinced that changing their name every > few > > > years will somehow benefit them. i can't make heads or tails of it > > > either. > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > ...Whites should be called "European American". > > > > > > > > Yeah, I can see that. WTF do you call a black guy who > > > > is neither African, nor American? It's stupid. There > > > > was nothing wrong with Negro. And if you don't like > > > > French (or was it Spanish?), there was always the English > > > > term: Black. Also a peeve, _I_ am a native American. > > > > Most are, they were born there after all. The aboriginal > > > > races are _not_ entitled to exclusive use of that name! > > > > Sheesh. People need to get a life and stop dwelling on > > > > the mistakes made by a bunch of dead people. > > > > > > > > Now where's my Kevlar underwear?... > > > > > > > > -- Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not 240
well, if you know why they keep changing names, please explain it to us. On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:44 PM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Somehow that doesn't bother me, even if it were true (which it isn't). > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > somehow blacks have become convinced that changing their name every few > > years will somehow benefit them. i can't make heads or tails of it > > either. > > > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > ...Whites should be called "European American". > > > > > > Yeah, I can see that. WTF do you call a black guy who > > > is neither African, nor American? It's stupid. There > > > was nothing wrong with Negro. And if you don't like > > > French (or was it Spanish?), there was always the English > > > term: Black. Also a peeve, _I_ am a native American. > > > Most are, they were born there after all. The aboriginal > > > races are _not_ entitled to exclusive use of that name! > > > Sheesh. People need to get a life and stop dwelling on > > > the mistakes made by a bunch of dead people. > > > > > > Now where's my Kevlar underwear?... > > > > > > -- Jim > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not 240
Somehow that doesn't bother me, even if it were true (which it isn't). On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > somehow blacks have become convinced that changing their name every few > years will somehow benefit them. i can't make heads or tails of it > either. > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > ...Whites should be called "European American". > > > > Yeah, I can see that. WTF do you call a black guy who > > is neither African, nor American? It's stupid. There > > was nothing wrong with Negro. And if you don't like > > French (or was it Spanish?), there was always the English > > term: Black. Also a peeve, _I_ am a native American. > > Most are, they were born there after all. The aboriginal > > races are _not_ entitled to exclusive use of that name! > > Sheesh. People need to get a life and stop dwelling on > > the mistakes made by a bunch of dead people. > > > > Now where's my Kevlar underwear?... > > > > -- Jim > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That depends on whether you came from a car-centric situation or not. My hypothesis is that those who have no car-centric history from a young age are generally clueless once they get their licenses (or not, but that is another discussion) since they do not have a "sixth sense" of stuff going on around them on the roads. Here in Houston we have lots of those kind of "drivers." A friend's wife, who grew up in New York City, had very minimal experience in a car other than an occasional taxi -- took the bus/subway/taxi everywhere or walked. After she got her Ph.D. from Harvard/MIT (she is not your average inconsiderate dumbass, though the correlation between the two aspects might not be a good one) she decided she needed to learn to drive. She is the first to admit she is an absolutely terrible driver, and has zero sense of what being in a car is about though she makes an effort. She minimizes driving, just to/from work mostly, and does not like it at all. YMMV --R Frederick W Moir wrote: > Alles. > As a more recent immigrant than most of you, it seems to me > that it doesn't matter where you came from as much as what you do > once you are here! > Fred Moir > Asbestos is my friend. > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not 240
somehow blacks have become convinced that changing their name every few years will somehow benefit them. i can't make heads or tails of it either. On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ...Whites should be called "European American". > > Yeah, I can see that. WTF do you call a black guy who > is neither African, nor American? It's stupid. There > was nothing wrong with Negro. And if you don't like > French (or was it Spanish?), there was always the English > term: Black. Also a peeve, _I_ am a native American. > Most are, they were born there after all. The aboriginal > races are _not_ entitled to exclusive use of that name! > Sheesh. People need to get a life and stop dwelling on > the mistakes made by a bunch of dead people. > > Now where's my Kevlar underwear?... > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not 240
At 11:03 PM 2/13/2008, you wrote: > > ...Whites should be called "European American". > >Yeah, I can see that. WTF do you call a black guy who >is neither African, nor American? It's stupid. There >was nothing wrong with Negro. And if you don't like >French (or was it Spanish?), there was always the English >term: Black. Also a peeve, _I_ am a native American. >Most are, they were born there after all. The aboriginal >races are _not_ entitled to exclusive use of that name! >Sheesh. People need to get a life and stop dwelling on >the mistakes made by a bunch of dead people. > >Now where's my Kevlar underwear?... > >-- Jim Alles. As a more recent immigrant than most of you, it seems to me that it doesn't matter where you came from as much as what you do once you are here! Fred Moir Asbestos is my friend. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not 240
> ...Whites should be called "European American". Yeah, I can see that. WTF do you call a black guy who is neither African, nor American? It's stupid. There was nothing wrong with Negro. And if you don't like French (or was it Spanish?), there was always the English term: Black. Also a peeve, _I_ am a native American. Most are, they were born there after all. The aboriginal races are _not_ entitled to exclusive use of that name! Sheesh. People need to get a life and stop dwelling on the mistakes made by a bunch of dead people. Now where's my Kevlar underwear?... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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this civil rights thing is not exactly a 2 way street. On Feb 13, 2008 3:47 PM, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I once saw a speech given by David Duke? the head of the klan? Anyway, one > of his views was that Whites should be called "European American". > Now I certainly am not behind the klan, but I have to say, if we must call > Blacks "African American" then why don't we deserve others to go to the > same > silly trouble? > > Brian > > On Feb 13, 2008 12:03 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > i think civil rights are that you can offend chinese, but not blacks. i > > guess it's complicated, so i'll just keep on insulting everyone. > > > > On Feb 13, 2008 3:00 PM, Rich Thomas < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > It's because you are not supposed to say "chinese" -- "Asian" is the > > > correct term. > > > > > > Funny story: My SIL tutors freshman football players at a large > > > university. She is sorta "mom" to a lot of them, she has 4 boys of > her > > > own so these guys are just extended family in a lot of ways for her. > > > Many of them have very little experience in social aspects (for > > > instance, she helps them select clothes to wear to publicity events > and > > > such -- khakis and polo shirts are new territory for them). One of > them > > > (a very large young African American gentleman from a small town in > some > > > backwoods part of the state) comes to her one day all upset. He tells > > > her he was riding the escalator somewhere and sees this "Chinese dude" > > > coming the other way, so he asks him out of the blue, in passing, for > > > some reason never made clear, "How do you say 'ugly' in Chinese?" > > > > > > So the football player says the guy looks at him "funny" and says, "I > > > don't know, I'm not Chinese. How do you say 'stupid' in African?" . > > > The football player was upset, "He's a racist! He shouldn't be saying > > > things like that!" So then she, unsuccessfully, attempted to explain > to > > > this young gentleman why the whole thing was sorta racist and > offensive, > > > but he was not buying it. She also has to try to help them get > > > edumacated, but that is a whole nuther set of stories. > > > > > > --R > > > > > > Gary Hurst wrote: > > > > yeah, i catch hell when i say "bet that car is being driven by a > > chinese > > > > woman on a cellphone". when i am right, she still will not give me > > > credit > > > > for it :( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not 240
I once saw a speech given by David Duke? the head of the klan? Anyway, one of his views was that Whites should be called "European American". Now I certainly am not behind the klan, but I have to say, if we must call Blacks "African American" then why don't we deserve others to go to the same silly trouble? Brian On Feb 13, 2008 12:03 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i think civil rights are that you can offend chinese, but not blacks. i > guess it's complicated, so i'll just keep on insulting everyone. > > On Feb 13, 2008 3:00 PM, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > > It's because you are not supposed to say "chinese" -- "Asian" is the > > correct term. > > > > Funny story: My SIL tutors freshman football players at a large > > university. She is sorta "mom" to a lot of them, she has 4 boys of her > > own so these guys are just extended family in a lot of ways for her. > > Many of them have very little experience in social aspects (for > > instance, she helps them select clothes to wear to publicity events and > > such -- khakis and polo shirts are new territory for them). One of them > > (a very large young African American gentleman from a small town in some > > backwoods part of the state) comes to her one day all upset. He tells > > her he was riding the escalator somewhere and sees this "Chinese dude" > > coming the other way, so he asks him out of the blue, in passing, for > > some reason never made clear, "How do you say 'ugly' in Chinese?" > > > > So the football player says the guy looks at him "funny" and says, "I > > don't know, I'm not Chinese. How do you say 'stupid' in African?" . > > The football player was upset, "He's a racist! He shouldn't be saying > > things like that!" So then she, unsuccessfully, attempted to explain to > > this young gentleman why the whole thing was sorta racist and offensive, > > but he was not buying it. She also has to try to help them get > > edumacated, but that is a whole nuther set of stories. > > > > --R > > > > Gary Hurst wrote: > > > yeah, i catch hell when i say "bet that car is being driven by a > chinese > > > woman on a cellphone". when i am right, she still will not give me > > credit > > > for it :( > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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i think civil rights are that you can offend chinese, but not blacks. i guess it's complicated, so i'll just keep on insulting everyone. On Feb 13, 2008 3:00 PM, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's because you are not supposed to say "chinese" -- "Asian" is the > correct term. > > Funny story: My SIL tutors freshman football players at a large > university. She is sorta "mom" to a lot of them, she has 4 boys of her > own so these guys are just extended family in a lot of ways for her. > Many of them have very little experience in social aspects (for > instance, she helps them select clothes to wear to publicity events and > such -- khakis and polo shirts are new territory for them). One of them > (a very large young African American gentleman from a small town in some > backwoods part of the state) comes to her one day all upset. He tells > her he was riding the escalator somewhere and sees this "Chinese dude" > coming the other way, so he asks him out of the blue, in passing, for > some reason never made clear, "How do you say 'ugly' in Chinese?" > > So the football player says the guy looks at him "funny" and says, "I > don't know, I'm not Chinese. How do you say 'stupid' in African?" . > The football player was upset, "He's a racist! He shouldn't be saying > things like that!" So then she, unsuccessfully, attempted to explain to > this young gentleman why the whole thing was sorta racist and offensive, > but he was not buying it. She also has to try to help them get > edumacated, but that is a whole nuther set of stories. > > --R > > Gary Hurst wrote: > > yeah, i catch hell when i say "bet that car is being driven by a chinese > > woman on a cellphone". when i am right, she still will not give me > credit > > for it :( > > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Not 240
It's because you are not supposed to say "chinese" -- "Asian" is the correct term. Funny story: My SIL tutors freshman football players at a large university. She is sorta "mom" to a lot of them, she has 4 boys of her own so these guys are just extended family in a lot of ways for her. Many of them have very little experience in social aspects (for instance, she helps them select clothes to wear to publicity events and such -- khakis and polo shirts are new territory for them). One of them (a very large young African American gentleman from a small town in some backwoods part of the state) comes to her one day all upset. He tells her he was riding the escalator somewhere and sees this "Chinese dude" coming the other way, so he asks him out of the blue, in passing, for some reason never made clear, "How do you say 'ugly' in Chinese?" So the football player says the guy looks at him "funny" and says, "I don't know, I'm not Chinese. How do you say 'stupid' in African?" . The football player was upset, "He's a racist! He shouldn't be saying things like that!" So then she, unsuccessfully, attempted to explain to this young gentleman why the whole thing was sorta racist and offensive, but he was not buying it. She also has to try to help them get edumacated, but that is a whole nuther set of stories. --R Gary Hurst wrote: > yeah, i catch hell when i say "bet that car is being driven by a chinese > woman on a cellphone". when i am right, she still will not give me credit > for it :( > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
