Re: [MBZ] OM603: Bubbles in Expansion Tank... Cracked head?
I dunno about that ;) On 12/9/2009 5:20 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: seems like its time to retire it to okie acres. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603: Bubbles in Expansion Tank... Cracked head?
seems like its time to retire it to okie acres. John Robbins wrote: LarryT wrote: When you say, "to the top" do you mean the top/Hot mark ? Or to the top of the filler neck? There are 2 lines on the side of the Exp Tk. - one for Low/Cold and another for High/Hot levels. I filled it to the filler neck. Here are some videos... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYcg8uUoG5I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pARyVwRha6Q And yes, I sell Oil Analysis Kits. You said there was no oil in the coolant and vice versa, but it's very difficult see unless there is a large amount of it - Yeah, there can definitely be coolant in there you can't see, but I'm going to hold out on doing much more of anything to the car until January sometime. I'm a little burned out on it. I've spent the last three or so weeks working on the car non-stop so I could take it up to New Hampshire this weekend, but I'm not taking it now. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603: Bubbles in Expansion Tank... Cracked head?
LarryT wrote: When you say, "to the top" do you mean the top/Hot mark ? Or to the top of the filler neck? There are 2 lines on the side of the Exp Tk. - one for Low/Cold and another for High/Hot levels. I filled it to the filler neck. Here are some videos... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYcg8uUoG5I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pARyVwRha6Q And yes, I sell Oil Analysis Kits. You said there was no oil in the coolant and vice versa, but it's very difficult see unless there is a large amount of it - Yeah, there can definitely be coolant in there you can't see, but I'm going to hold out on doing much more of anything to the car until January sometime. I'm a little burned out on it. I've spent the last three or so weeks working on the car non-stop so I could take it up to New Hampshire this weekend, but I'm not taking it now. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603: Bubbles in Expansion Tank... Cracked head?
When you say, "to the top" do you mean the top/Hot mark ? Or to the top of the filler neck? There are 2 lines on the side of the Exp Tk. - one for Low/Cold and another for High/Hot levels. And yes, I sell Oil Analysis Kits. You said there was no oil in the coolant and vice versa, but it's very difficult see unless there is a large amount of it - The Oil Analysis will detect any amount of water or Glycol in the oil sample down to 1 or 2 ppm. LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: "John Robbins" Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:59 AM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: [MBZ] OM603: Bubbles in Expansion Tank... Cracked head? All, When I fill my expansion tank to the top, I see a steady stream of bubbles coming out of the little hose that goes across the radiator. However, I don't seem to be using any coolant (only driven the car 800 or so miles), have coolant in the oil, or oil in the coolant. When cold pressure doesn't build up in the cooling system unusually fast. The radiator cap is good and after a hard run the hoses are rock hard. After a recent VERY hard run (multiple 0-100 runs), a pint or so of coolant leaked out... which is when I found the bubbles. I think it is likely a cracked head IIRC, one of the (many) reasons a #14 head would fail is high exhaust back pressure from a clogged trap ox. Well, there wasn't a trap on this car when I got it, but the cat. was so clogged up the only exhaust flow was through the EGR valve (that was interesting to diagnose!). Thoughts? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603: Bubbles in Expansion Tank... Cracked head?
On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 09:59:52 -0600 John Robbins wrote: > a #14 head would fail is high exhaust back pressure from a clogged trap > ox. Well, there wasn't a trap on this car when I got it, but the cat. > was so clogged up the only exhaust flow was through the EGR valve (that > was interesting to diagnose!). Which car is this on? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603: Bubbles in Expansion Tank... Cracked head?
You could have your engine oil analyzed for presence of coolant (Larry - you still sell the kits, right?). You could also buy a kit at Napa to test the coolant for presence of exhaust gasses. Kit cost ~$60 or so I believe, and the description said that it worked on diesel engines as well as gasoline. I think it's worth spending a little bit of money to get more evidence, but I agree with your diagnoses. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Robbins Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 11:00 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OM603: Bubbles in Expansion Tank... Cracked head? All, When I fill my expansion tank to the top, I see a steady stream of bubbles coming out of the little hose that goes across the radiator. However, I don't seem to be using any coolant (only driven the car 800 or so miles), have coolant in the oil, or oil in the coolant. When cold pressure doesn't build up in the cooling system unusually fast. The radiator cap is good and after a hard run the hoses are rock hard. After a recent VERY hard run (multiple 0-100 runs), a pint or so of coolant leaked out... which is when I found the bubbles. I think it is likely a cracked head IIRC, one of the (many) reasons a #14 head would fail is high exhaust back pressure from a clogged trap ox. Well, there wasn't a trap on this car when I got it, but the cat. was so clogged up the only exhaust flow was through the EGR valve (that was interesting to diagnose!). Thoughts? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603: Bubbles in Expansion Tank... Cracked head?
SteveB wrote: Is there a chance you did not loose any antifreeze, but it went into the overflow chamber located inside the fender well? There is a tube that goes from the plastic fill tank toward the battery and then down to this chamber. Unfortunately, the coolant was on the ground. :( John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603: Bubbles in Expansion Tank... Cracked head?
Is there a chance you did not loose any antifreeze, but it went into the overflow chamber located inside the fender well? There is a tube that goes from the plastic fill tank toward the battery and then down to this chamber. Steve On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:59 AM, John Robbins wrote: > All, > > When I fill my expansion tank to the top, I see a steady stream of bubbles > coming out of the little hose that goes across the radiator. However, I > don't seem to be using any coolant (only driven the car 800 or so miles), > have coolant in the oil, or oil in the coolant. When cold pressure doesn't > build up in the cooling system unusually fast. The radiator cap is good and > after a hard run the hoses are rock hard. After a recent VERY hard run > (multiple 0-100 runs), a pint or so of coolant leaked out... which is when > I found the bubbles. > > I think it is likely a cracked head IIRC, one of the (many) reasons a > #14 head would fail is high exhaust back pressure from a clogged trap ox. > Well, there wasn't a trap on this car when I got it, but the cat. was so > clogged up the only exhaust flow was through the EGR valve (that was > interesting to diagnose!). > > Thoughts? > > John > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OM603: Bubbles in Expansion Tank... Cracked head?
All, When I fill my expansion tank to the top, I see a steady stream of bubbles coming out of the little hose that goes across the radiator. However, I don't seem to be using any coolant (only driven the car 800 or so miles), have coolant in the oil, or oil in the coolant. When cold pressure doesn't build up in the cooling system unusually fast. The radiator cap is good and after a hard run the hoses are rock hard. After a recent VERY hard run (multiple 0-100 runs), a pint or so of coolant leaked out... which is when I found the bubbles. I think it is likely a cracked head IIRC, one of the (many) reasons a #14 head would fail is high exhaust back pressure from a clogged trap ox. Well, there wasn't a trap on this car when I got it, but the cat. was so clogged up the only exhaust flow was through the EGR valve (that was interesting to diagnose!). Thoughts? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
