Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW X5
> Jim, remind me the X5’s year and engine? I have a BMW friend that may chime > in. 06 E53 X5, with the M54 I-6 VANOS engine. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW X5
Pull the motor. You can probably just weld the bosses solid again and redrill them. Or find a junkyard motor and swap it out. On Mon, Aug 29, 2022, 12:16 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Jim, remind me the X5’s year and engine? I have a BMW friend that may > chime in. > > AZBob > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Aug 29, 2022, at 11:49 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > On 2022-08-29 14:34, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > > > >> Have to pull the intake manifold and everything on the side. > >> Which _I_ didn't want to do. Which is why I hired the 'professional' > >> to take care of the problem. > >> He did a worse job than what I feared I would do. > > > > The last two times I hired a specialist to do something I didn't have > the proper tools for, they buggered it far worse than I could have properly > dreamed of. The one I remember best, I spent 4x as much time taking it to > them as it would have taken me to do it myself, and they considered the > damage they did to be proper work. That was over 20 years ago, and it was > the last straw for me. > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW X5
Jim, remind me the X5’s year and engine? I have a BMW friend that may chime in. AZBob Sent from my iPad > On Aug 29, 2022, at 11:49 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 2022-08-29 14:34, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > >> Have to pull the intake manifold and everything on the side. >> Which _I_ didn't want to do. Which is why I hired the 'professional' >> to take care of the problem. >> He did a worse job than what I feared I would do. > > The last two times I hired a specialist to do something I didn't have the > proper tools for, they buggered it far worse than I could have properly > dreamed of. The one I remember best, I spent 4x as much time taking it to > them as it would have taken me to do it myself, and they considered the > damage they did to be proper work. That was over 20 years ago, and it was the > last straw for me. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW X5
On 2022-08-29 14:34, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: Have to pull the intake manifold and everything on the side. Which _I_ didn't want to do. Which is why I hired the 'professional' to take care of the problem. He did a worse job than what I feared I would do. The last two times I hired a specialist to do something I didn't have the proper tools for, they buggered it far worse than I could have properly dreamed of. The one I remember best, I spent 4x as much time taking it to them as it would have taken me to do it myself, and they considered the damage they did to be proper work. That was over 20 years ago, and it was the last straw for me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW X5
> Can it be heli-coiled? That's what he was trying to do. Blew threw the sides of two of the three bosses that needed drilling/coiling. > Without pulling the engine? Have to pull the intake manifold and everything on the side. Which _I_ didn't want to do. Which is why I hired the 'professional' to take care of the problem. He did a worse job than what I feared I would do. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW X5
Jiminy Crickets! I just looked up the log and you've had that car for 10 years. I was thinking it was 2 or 3... -Curt On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 06:57:32 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: On Sat, Aug 27, 2022, at 16:28, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > Can it be heli-coiled? Maybe look into a timesert repair. That requires drilling out and tapping a larger hole anyway. > Without pulling the engine? That will be the question. Apparently the "professional" got in there on at least one of the bores. Might need a right-angle drill adaptor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW X5
I don't think I'm stepping out of line when I say that if anybody can do it Jim Cathey can. -Curt On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 06:57:32 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: On Sat, Aug 27, 2022, at 16:28, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > Can it be heli-coiled? Maybe look into a timesert repair. That requires drilling out and tapping a larger hole anyway. > Without pulling the engine? That will be the question. Apparently the "professional" got in there on at least one of the bores. Might need a right-angle drill adaptor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW X5
This is why I learned to replace delivery valve seals myself. I paid $1000 once to have dv seals replaced on my '85 190D. It cost so much because the guy screwed up on his first try. That was when I decided "Why pay somebody else to screw up things that I can screw up perfectly well myself?" -Curt On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 05:28:53 PM EDT, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > Well, I'm completely screwed. No. You just face a new, and unexpected challenge. > Basically the engine block is ruined. Can it be heli-coiled? Without pulling the engine? > And I spent money to have it ruined for me. I *hate* when that happens. I usually buy the tools and do the ruination myself. BTW, I feel about Bmw's how Dimitri feels about Japanese cars. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW X5
On Sat, Aug 27, 2022, at 16:28, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > Can it be heli-coiled? Maybe look into a timesert repair. That requires drilling out and tapping a larger hole anyway. > Without pulling the engine? That will be the question. Apparently the "professional" got in there on at least one of the bores. Might need a right-angle drill adaptor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW X5
As my Dad always said, "If you want it done right, do it yourself." On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 12:58 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Terrible that you cannot trust so-called professionals to actually be that. > > I am not sure what the answer is, other than going by local reputation. > But even that isn't a guarantee. I had a supposed "good" local shop return > a car to me with no hose clamps on the new hose they had installed as part > of a job to replace a water pump and thermostat. I have had tire shops > return cars with the wheel nuts loose. I have had cars returned and found > tools left in the engine compartment. Very simple things, yet they overlook > them. I hate to imagine what happens on more complex jobs. > > Allan > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you are wearing." "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW X5
> Well, I'm completely screwed. No. You just face a new, and unexpected challenge. > Basically the engine block is ruined. Can it be heli-coiled? Without pulling the engine? > And I spent money to have it ruined for me. I *hate* when that happens. I usually buy the tools and do the ruination myself. BTW, I feel about Bmw's how Dimitri feels about Japanese cars. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW X5
Terrible that you cannot trust so-called professionals to actually be that. I am not sure what the answer is, other than going by local reputation. But even that isn't a guarantee. I had a supposed "good" local shop return a car to me with no hose clamps on the new hose they had installed as part of a job to replace a water pump and thermostat. I have had tire shops return cars with the wheel nuts loose. I have had cars returned and found tools left in the engine compartment. Very simple things, yet they overlook them. I hate to imagine what happens on more complex jobs. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: BMW X5
Well, I'm completely screwed. When I went to put the car back together I found that the 'professional' mobile mechanic had trapped one of the oil cooler pipes on the wrong side of the mount. I had to remove the mount arm again in order to rectify things. I jacked up the engine as step one. That's when I discovered: 1) The arm was rattling loose on the block, once tension had been removed. WTF? I then went to remove the five bolts that hold the arm on the engine. And I discover: 2) All five bolts are not even finger-tight. I did not need a wrench to remove them. I did need two different sockets. With the arm out of there I can finally see the work site. The original problem was three broken-off bolts, which the mechanic was hired to remove. What I find is: 3) All three bolt holes are hogged out large. One has a protruding helicoil in it, the other two are not even threaded, and are broken out into the air on one side. The large holes are shallower than the originals, and I think I can see bolt residue at the bottoms. Basically the engine block is ruined. And I spent money to have it ruined for me. IF I can drill the arm and deploy a never-used bolt hole in the casting, and can get the one helicoiled hole to hold torque, it's possible the situation can be recovered somewhat, having working 4 bolts total. I don't know if the helicoil was not installed to depth, or if he didn't actually tap it properly and it just pulled out when he applied torque. Guess I need to figure that out next. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW X5 diesel - 135k miles - $16,900
My impression of BMW is "overengineered, gratuitous complexity" that is wonderful until it needs repair. Some would say the same about MB of course, but I think BMW does it to an even greater degree. On Fri, May 20, 2022, at 12:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > Historically, not great. > > -D > >> On May 20, 2022, at 12:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> What's the rep of BMW diesels? >> >>> On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 11:31 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> Seems like a lot of money for a 10 year old car, but looks nice. >>> >>> >>> https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/wadsworth-bmw-x5-diesel-awd-like-new/7486041053.html >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW X5 diesel - 135k miles - $16,900
Historically, not great. -D > On May 20, 2022, at 12:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > What's the rep of BMW diesels? > >> On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 11:31 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Seems like a lot of money for a 10 year old car, but looks nice. >> >> >> https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/wadsworth-bmw-x5-diesel-awd-like-new/7486041053.html >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW X5 diesel - 135k miles - $16,900
> What's the rep of BMW diesels? Not good, IIRC. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW X5 diesel - 135k miles - $16,900
What's the rep of BMW diesels? On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 11:31 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Seems like a lot of money for a 10 year old car, but looks nice. > > > https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/wadsworth-bmw-x5-diesel-awd-like-new/7486041053.html > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: BMW X5 diesel - 135k miles - $16,900
Seems like a lot of money for a 10 year old car, but looks nice. https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/wadsworth-bmw-x5-diesel-awd-like-new/7486041053.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
