Re: [MBZ] OT: Don't mess with moose(s)/meese
On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 18:48:31 -0500 (EST) Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > > On December 12, 2018 at 6:33 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > How does one get the moose to hold still while measuring the width of > > the rack? > > Good point. > With Walleye, you just measure them and throw them back if they're too > small. But this guy shot a moose and threw it back, so they threw him > in jail. Actually, he shot three of them. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Don't mess with moose(s)/meese
> On December 12, 2018 at 6:33 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > > How does one get the moose to hold still while measuring the width of > the rack? Good point. With Walleye, you just measure them and throw them back if they're too small. But this guy shot a moose and threw it back, so they threw him in jail. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Don't mess with moose(s)/meese
How does one get the moose to hold still while measuring the width of the rack? RB On 12/12/2018 5:00 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: 50" rack required to be legal, these are probably under 1000# apiece, actually probably in the 700-800# range. I'm interested to see that requirement, moose over 1000# start to be tough eating... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Don't mess with moose(s)/meese
50" rack required to be legal, these are probably under 1000# apiece, actually probably in the 700-800# range. I'm interested to see that requirement, moose over 1000# start to be tough eating... -Curt On Wednesday, December 12, 2018, 4:53:54 PM EST, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: So, presuming each of the 3 killed meese weighed, say 1,000 lbs and not giving weight to the jail time, or forfeiture of his rifle and vehicle, calculation of the price per pound of moose meat comes to $33.33 per lb. more or less. Waste not, Want not... Alaskans take natures harvest seriously...I'm sure jail food won't cost nearly as much... or be as good as fresh moose. On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 2:02 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > WILDLIFEAlaskan gets $100K fine, jail time for poaching 3 moosePublished: > Wednesday, December 12, 2018 > > An Alaska man who poached three moose and left most of the meat to rot has > been sentenced to nine months in jail and fined more than $100,000. > > Rusty Counts, 39, of Anchor Point shot the moose near his community over > two weeks in September. He pleaded guilty Nov. 6 to 21 misdemeanor wildlife > counts and violations, including wanton waste, exceeding bag limits and > contributing to the delinquency of a minor. > > Hunting regulations near the Kenai Peninsula community require moose to > have antlers measuring 50 inches wide to be harvested. None of the three > moose had the required spread, said Aaron Peterson, an assistant attorney > general who prosecuted the case. > > "The working theory is that he realized they were sublegal and decided not > to stick around to salvage the meat," Peterson said Monday. He called the > case one of the most egregious poaching events ever seen by Alaska state > wildlife troopers. > > Alaska officials take seriously the harvesting of moose and salvaging of > meat, Alaska Department of Fish and Game spokesman Ken Marsh said. > > A bull moose can weigh up to 1,600 pounds and feed a family for months with > meat free of chemicals and hormones. A successful hunt is also a source of > pride, Marsh said. > > "It's a really important part of our culture and tradition, and people take > that seriously," he said. > > Peterson backed the hefty penalties for Counts as a deterrent to others. If > Counts had salvaged meat from the first moose, he likely would have been > penalized for a single hunting violation. > > "That meat goes to shelters, food banks. It goes to people who need it," > Peterson said. > > Counts was fined $97,650 and ordered to pay $3,000 in restitution. He > forfeited his rifle and an all-terrain vehicle and was sentenced to 270 > days in jail. > > "If you do the right thing in the field, this kind of thing doesn't happen. > But if you poach and leave moose, these are the appropriate sanctions, in > the state's view," Peterson said. *— Dan Joling, Associated Press* > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Don't mess with moose(s)/meese
Alaska has a strong subsistence culture so there is general consensus to apply harsh penalties against poachers. On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 4:53 PM G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > So, presuming each of the 3 killed meese weighed, say 1,000 lbs and not > giving weight to the jail time, or forfeiture of his rifle and vehicle, > calculation of the price per pound of moose meat comes to $33.33 per > lb. > more or less. > > Waste not, Want not... Alaskans take natures harvest seriously...I'm sure > jail food won't cost nearly as much... or be as good as fresh moose. > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 2:02 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > WILDLIFEAlaskan gets $100K fine, jail time for poaching 3 moosePublished: > > Wednesday, December 12, 2018 > > > > An Alaska man who poached three moose and left most of the meat to rot > has > > been sentenced to nine months in jail and fined more than $100,000. > > > > Rusty Counts, 39, of Anchor Point shot the moose near his community over > > two weeks in September. He pleaded guilty Nov. 6 to 21 misdemeanor > wildlife > > counts and violations, including wanton waste, exceeding bag limits and > > contributing to the delinquency of a minor. > > > > Hunting regulations near the Kenai Peninsula community require moose to > > have antlers measuring 50 inches wide to be harvested. None of the three > > moose had the required spread, said Aaron Peterson, an assistant attorney > > general who prosecuted the case. > > > > "The working theory is that he realized they were sublegal and decided > not > > to stick around to salvage the meat," Peterson said Monday. He called the > > case one of the most egregious poaching events ever seen by Alaska state > > wildlife troopers. > > > > Alaska officials take seriously the harvesting of moose and salvaging of > > meat, Alaska Department of Fish and Game spokesman Ken Marsh said. > > > > A bull moose can weigh up to 1,600 pounds and feed a family for months > with > > meat free of chemicals and hormones. A successful hunt is also a source > of > > pride, Marsh said. > > > > "It's a really important part of our culture and tradition, and people > take > > that seriously," he said. > > > > Peterson backed the hefty penalties for Counts as a deterrent to others. > If > > Counts had salvaged meat from the first moose, he likely would have been > > penalized for a single hunting violation. > > > > "That meat goes to shelters, food banks. It goes to people who need it," > > Peterson said. > > > > Counts was fined $97,650 and ordered to pay $3,000 in restitution. He > > forfeited his rifle and an all-terrain vehicle and was sentenced to 270 > > days in jail. > > > > "If you do the right thing in the field, this kind of thing doesn't > happen. > > But if you poach and leave moose, these are the appropriate sanctions, in > > the state's view," Peterson said. *— Dan Joling, Associated Press* > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Don't mess with moose(s)/meese
So, presuming each of the 3 killed meese weighed, say 1,000 lbs and not giving weight to the jail time, or forfeiture of his rifle and vehicle, calculation of the price per pound of moose meat comes to $33.33 per lb. more or less. Waste not, Want not... Alaskans take natures harvest seriously...I'm sure jail food won't cost nearly as much... or be as good as fresh moose. On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 2:02 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > WILDLIFEAlaskan gets $100K fine, jail time for poaching 3 moosePublished: > Wednesday, December 12, 2018 > > An Alaska man who poached three moose and left most of the meat to rot has > been sentenced to nine months in jail and fined more than $100,000. > > Rusty Counts, 39, of Anchor Point shot the moose near his community over > two weeks in September. He pleaded guilty Nov. 6 to 21 misdemeanor wildlife > counts and violations, including wanton waste, exceeding bag limits and > contributing to the delinquency of a minor. > > Hunting regulations near the Kenai Peninsula community require moose to > have antlers measuring 50 inches wide to be harvested. None of the three > moose had the required spread, said Aaron Peterson, an assistant attorney > general who prosecuted the case. > > "The working theory is that he realized they were sublegal and decided not > to stick around to salvage the meat," Peterson said Monday. He called the > case one of the most egregious poaching events ever seen by Alaska state > wildlife troopers. > > Alaska officials take seriously the harvesting of moose and salvaging of > meat, Alaska Department of Fish and Game spokesman Ken Marsh said. > > A bull moose can weigh up to 1,600 pounds and feed a family for months with > meat free of chemicals and hormones. A successful hunt is also a source of > pride, Marsh said. > > "It's a really important part of our culture and tradition, and people take > that seriously," he said. > > Peterson backed the hefty penalties for Counts as a deterrent to others. If > Counts had salvaged meat from the first moose, he likely would have been > penalized for a single hunting violation. > > "That meat goes to shelters, food banks. It goes to people who need it," > Peterson said. > > Counts was fined $97,650 and ordered to pay $3,000 in restitution. He > forfeited his rifle and an all-terrain vehicle and was sentenced to 270 > days in jail. > > "If you do the right thing in the field, this kind of thing doesn't happen. > But if you poach and leave moose, these are the appropriate sanctions, in > the state's view," Peterson said. *— Dan Joling, Associated Press* > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Don't mess with moose(s)/meese
WILDLIFEAlaskan gets $100K fine, jail time for poaching 3 moosePublished: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 An Alaska man who poached three moose and left most of the meat to rot has been sentenced to nine months in jail and fined more than $100,000. Rusty Counts, 39, of Anchor Point shot the moose near his community over two weeks in September. He pleaded guilty Nov. 6 to 21 misdemeanor wildlife counts and violations, including wanton waste, exceeding bag limits and contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Hunting regulations near the Kenai Peninsula community require moose to have antlers measuring 50 inches wide to be harvested. None of the three moose had the required spread, said Aaron Peterson, an assistant attorney general who prosecuted the case. "The working theory is that he realized they were sublegal and decided not to stick around to salvage the meat," Peterson said Monday. He called the case one of the most egregious poaching events ever seen by Alaska state wildlife troopers. Alaska officials take seriously the harvesting of moose and salvaging of meat, Alaska Department of Fish and Game spokesman Ken Marsh said. A bull moose can weigh up to 1,600 pounds and feed a family for months with meat free of chemicals and hormones. A successful hunt is also a source of pride, Marsh said. "It's a really important part of our culture and tradition, and people take that seriously," he said. Peterson backed the hefty penalties for Counts as a deterrent to others. If Counts had salvaged meat from the first moose, he likely would have been penalized for a single hunting violation. "That meat goes to shelters, food banks. It goes to people who need it," Peterson said. Counts was fined $97,650 and ordered to pay $3,000 in restitution. He forfeited his rifle and an all-terrain vehicle and was sentenced to 270 days in jail. "If you do the right thing in the field, this kind of thing doesn't happen. But if you poach and leave moose, these are the appropriate sanctions, in the state's view," Peterson said. *— Dan Joling, Associated Press* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
