Re: [MBZ] OT: Murder by hogs

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

the feral hogs decimated bird life in Hawaii.  Most birds there nested 
on the ground and the hogs wiped many species completely out.


I'd like to hunt them as well, but shooting from a chopper would be my 
preference


LarryT

On 11/27/2019 7:35 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Good fun, and some of em make good pork if ya get to em fast enough. 
My uncle and cousins hunted feral pigs in the mountains of Hawaii.   I 
never got a chance to go with them.  THey used an 03A3. probably one 
issued to WWII Corps of Engineers in Hawaii, so long as they did not 
have to leave the Hawaiian major islands.   Some of the Hawaiians like 
to go hunting boars with just a knife. Crazy stuff.   Lotsa people 
hunt hogs there with dogs, and almost every dog gets severely cut up 
at one time or another.   Many dogs are killed by hogs.


Now that I have good friends in TX, maybe I'll get to hunt hogs with 
them some year.


combining aircraft and rifles makes for good fun, so long as nobody is 
shooting AT said aircraft.



G Mann via Mercedes 
November 27, 2019 at 1:47 PM
Caution: Video contains flying, shooting and animal eradication of feral
hogs.
It is, however, on my personal bucket list.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaBN8rp_HZE



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Murder by hogs

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

"One chicken died in the explosion, first responders say."

Good Lord! That poor chicken.

Randy

On 28/11/2019 2:51 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

Hope your turkey smoked better than this one:
https://www.kxan.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2019/11/Tahera-image-explosion-5.jpg

https://www.kxan.com/news/local/hays/investigator-on-scene-of-explosion-in-kyle/



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Murder by hogs

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It did and it was excellent. Leftovers have been packaged up and the first load 
of dishes put in the Bosch.

-D

 
> On Nov 28, 2019, at 3:51 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Hope your turkey smoked better than this one:
> https://www.kxan.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2019/11/Tahera-image-explosion-5.jpg
> 
> https://www.kxan.com/news/local/hays/investigator-on-scene-of-explosion-in-kyle/
> 
>> On November 28, 2019 at 12:45 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Masterbuilt: 
>> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Masterbuilt-MPS-250S-Extra-Large-Propane-Smoker-MB20050614/304339112
>> 
>> And yes, I’m smoking a turkey that I brined overnight and then spatchcocked 
>> before smoking. makes it go faster and does a better job of smoking all of 
>> the bird.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Murder by hogs

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Hope your turkey smoked better than this one:
https://www.kxan.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2019/11/Tahera-image-explosion-5.jpg

https://www.kxan.com/news/local/hays/investigator-on-scene-of-explosion-in-kyle/

> On November 28, 2019 at 12:45 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Masterbuilt: 
> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Masterbuilt-MPS-250S-Extra-Large-Propane-Smoker-MB20050614/304339112
> 
> And yes, I’m smoking a turkey that I brined overnight and then spatchcocked 
> before smoking. makes it go faster and does a better job of smoking all of 
> the bird.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Murder by hogs

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Masterbuilt: 
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Masterbuilt-MPS-250S-Extra-Large-Propane-Smoker-MB20050614/304339112

And yes, I’m smoking a turkey that I brined overnight and then spatchcocked 
before smoking. makes it go faster and does a better job of smoking all of the 
bird.

-D



> On Nov 28, 2019, at 12:21 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What kind of smoker do you have, and are you smoking turkeys?
> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 28, 2019, at 8:58 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > > wrote:
>> 
>> I do. Understand that the area I live in was empty farm and grove land 20 
>> years ago. 10 miles from me (or possibly less) the area is still undeveloped 
>> for now, and it pretty much empty scrub or swampland. The pressure on 
>> wildlife from development around here is significant. It’s causing a lot of 
>> habitat loss and as a result forces a lot of it into relatively compressed 
>> areas, such as the lands along the river.
>> 
>> Just came in from reloading the smoker and heard “Hawky”, our red-shouldered 
>> hawk that lives behind the house, raising Cain about something. He flies 
>> around and regularly relieves us of our tree rats (squirrels).
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 28, 2019, at 11:43 AM, Andrew Strasfogel >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Holy zoological park!  I thought you lived in Tampa.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 11:41 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>>> >> wrote:
>>> Our community, along with the community across the street from us, backs up 
>>> onto a 60+ acre conservation area that was deeded to us when the developers 
>>> purchased the property. The Alafia River flows along the southern part of 
>>> the park, and there are environmental lands (ELAPP) owned by the County 
>>> that surround the river for the better part of it’s length through it’s 
>>> watershed. As a result of this there are a lot of wild animals that transit 
>>> through the area as it’s a corridor for them to move between the eastern 
>>> part of the county to Tampa Bay.
>>> 
>>> So no, these are truly wild animals. Along with the panthers, bobcats, 
>>> coyotes, deer, hawks, eagles, etc., etc. that live in the area. I’m going 
>>> to miss listening to all the wildlife when we move in a few weeks. I’ll 
>>> still have access to the park, as I’ll be in the other community, but we’ll 
>>> be farther away from the edge of the park.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
> On Nov 28, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Andrew Strasfogel    >> wrote:
 
 Private park?  Are they someone's property?
 
> On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 7:53 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> > 
>  
>  On Nov 27, 2019, at 8:32 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> > 
>  
>  
> My ex-BIL had the damn things rampaging through his housing development 
> south of Houston tearing up yards. He was well armed but unfortunately 
> discharging weapons was not allowed so they continued to sustain the 
> damage. He was disappointed he couldn’t get some to put on the smoke. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2019, at 8:09 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>> > 
>>  
>> > 
>> I'd like to go on a hog hunt, we don't have them here.My cousin lives in 
>> Texas but for some reason won't have anything to do with hunting 
>> hogs.It'd be fun to take some of dad's more interesting rifles on a hog 
>> hunt.
>> Actually I fired my .54 caliber muzzle loader today with 450grain 
>> "buffalo bullets". With 80 grains of real black powder behind it I bet 
>> one of those would roll a hog good and proper.
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Wednesday, Nov

Re: [MBZ] OT: Murder by hogs

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

What kind of smoker do you have, and are you smoking turkeys?
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 28, 2019, at 8:58 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I do. Understand that the area I live in was empty farm and grove land 20 
> years ago. 10 miles from me (or possibly less) the area is still undeveloped 
> for now, and it pretty much empty scrub or swampland. The pressure on 
> wildlife from development around here is significant. It’s causing a lot of 
> habitat loss and as a result forces a lot of it into relatively compressed 
> areas, such as the lands along the river.
> 
> Just came in from reloading the smoker and heard “Hawky”, our red-shouldered 
> hawk that lives behind the house, raising Cain about something. He flies 
> around and regularly relieves us of our tree rats (squirrels).
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 28, 2019, at 11:43 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Holy zoological park!  I thought you lived in Tampa.
>> 
>> On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 11:41 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> Our community, along with the community across the street from us, backs up 
>> onto a 60+ acre conservation area that was deeded to us when the developers 
>> purchased the property. The Alafia River flows along the southern part of 
>> the park, and there are environmental lands (ELAPP) owned by the County that 
>> surround the river for the better part of it’s length through it’s 
>> watershed. As a result of this there are a lot of wild animals that transit 
>> through the area as it’s a corridor for them to move between the eastern 
>> part of the county to Tampa Bay.
>> 
>> So no, these are truly wild animals. Along with the panthers, bobcats, 
>> coyotes, deer, hawks, eagles, etc., etc. that live in the area. I’m going to 
>> miss listening to all the wildlife when we move in a few weeks. I’ll still 
>> have access to the park, as I’ll be in the other community, but we’ll be 
>> farther away from the edge of the park.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Nov 28, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Andrew Strasfogel >>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Private park?  Are they someone's property?
>>> 
 On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 7:53 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
 >> wrote:
>>> We have feral hogs in our private park immediately behind my house. They’re 
>>> nowhere near as large as the ones in Texas (that I’ve seen) but they’re 
>>> certainly present and they do a lot of damage. If I go walking back there I 
>>> always carry a sidearm in the event I stumble across a bunch of them.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 27, 2019, at 8:32 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
 >> wrote:
 
 My ex-BIL had the damn things rampaging through his housing development 
 south of Houston tearing up yards. He was well armed but unfortunately 
 discharging weapons was not allowed so they continued to sustain the 
 damage. He was disappointed he couldn’t get some to put on the smoke. 
 
 --FT
 Sent from iPhone
 
> On Nov 27, 2019, at 8:09 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> >> wrote:
> 
> I'd like to go on a hog hunt, we don't have them here.My cousin lives in 
> Texas but for some reason won't have anything to do with hunting 
> hogs.It'd be fun to take some of dad's more interesting rifles on a hog 
> hunt.
> Actually I fired my .54 caliber muzzle loader today with 450grain 
> "buffalo bullets". With 80 grains of real black powder behind it I bet 
> one of those would roll a hog good and proper.
> -Curt
> 
>  On Wednesday, November 27, 2019, 7:35:56 PM EST, Curley McLain via 
> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> >> wrote:  
> 
> Good fun, and some of em make good pork if ya get to em fast enough.   
> My uncle and cousins hunted feral pigs in the mountains of Hawaii.   I 
> never got a chance to go with them.  THey used an 03A3.  probably one 
> issued to WWII Corps of Engineers in Hawaii, so long as they did not 
> have to leave the Hawaiian major islands.   Some of the Hawaiians like 
> to go hunting boars with just a knife.   Crazy stuff.   Lotsa people 
> hunt hogs there with dogs, and almost every dog gets severely cut up at 
> one time or another.   Many dogs are killed by hogs.
> 
> Now that I have good friends in TX, maybe I'll get to hunt hogs with 
> them some year.
> 
> combining aircraft and rifles makes for good fun, so long as nobody is 
> shooting AT said aircraft.
> 
>> G Mann via Mercedes 

Re: [MBZ] OT: Murder by hogs

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I do. Understand that the area I live in was empty farm and grove land 20 years 
ago. 10 miles from me (or possibly less) the area is still undeveloped for now, 
and it pretty much empty scrub or swampland. The pressure on wildlife from 
development around here is significant. It’s causing a lot of habitat loss and 
as a result forces a lot of it into relatively compressed areas, such as the 
lands along the river.

Just came in from reloading the smoker and heard “Hawky”, our red-shouldered 
hawk that lives behind the house, raising Cain about something. He flies around 
and regularly relieves us of our tree rats (squirrels).

-D


 
> On Nov 28, 2019, at 11:43 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Holy zoological park!  I thought you lived in Tampa.
> 
> On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 11:41 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> Our community, along with the community across the street from us, backs up 
> onto a 60+ acre conservation area that was deeded to us when the developers 
> purchased the property. The Alafia River flows along the southern part of the 
> park, and there are environmental lands (ELAPP) owned by the County that 
> surround the river for the better part of it’s length through it’s watershed. 
> As a result of this there are a lot of wild animals that transit through the 
> area as it’s a corridor for them to move between the eastern part of the 
> county to Tampa Bay.
> 
> So no, these are truly wild animals. Along with the panthers, bobcats, 
> coyotes, deer, hawks, eagles, etc., etc. that live in the area. I’m going to 
> miss listening to all the wildlife when we move in a few weeks. I’ll still 
> have access to the park, as I’ll be in the other community, but we’ll be 
> farther away from the edge of the park.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Nov 28, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  > > wrote:
> > 
> > Private park?  Are they someone's property?
> > 
> > On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 7:53 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> > >> wrote:
> > We have feral hogs in our private park immediately behind my house. They’re 
> > nowhere near as large as the ones in Texas (that I’ve seen) but they’re 
> > certainly present and they do a lot of damage. If I go walking back there I 
> > always carry a sidearm in the event I stumble across a bunch of them.
> > 
> > -D
> > 
> > 
> > > On Nov 27, 2019, at 8:32 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> > > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> > > >> wrote:
> > > 
> > > My ex-BIL had the damn things rampaging through his housing development 
> > > south of Houston tearing up yards. He was well armed but unfortunately 
> > > discharging weapons was not allowed so they continued to sustain the 
> > > damage. He was disappointed he couldn’t get some to put on the smoke. 
> > > 
> > > --FT
> > > Sent from iPhone
> > > 
> > >> On Nov 27, 2019, at 8:09 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> > >> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> I'd like to go on a hog hunt, we don't have them here.My cousin lives in 
> > >> Texas but for some reason won't have anything to do with hunting 
> > >> hogs.It'd be fun to take some of dad's more interesting rifles on a hog 
> > >> hunt.
> > >> Actually I fired my .54 caliber muzzle loader today with 450grain 
> > >> "buffalo bullets". With 80 grains of real black powder behind it I bet 
> > >> one of those would roll a hog good and proper.
> > >> -Curt
> > >> 
> > >>   On Wednesday, November 27, 2019, 7:35:56 PM EST, Curley McLain via 
> > >> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> > >> >> wrote:  
> > >> 
> > >> Good fun, and some of em make good pork if ya get to em fast enough.   
> > >> My uncle and cousins hunted feral pigs in the mountains of Hawaii.   I 
> > >> never got a chance to go with them.  THey used an 03A3.  probably one 
> > >> issued to WWII Corps of Engineers in Hawaii, so long as they did not 
> > >> have to leave the Hawaiian major islands.   Some of the Hawaiians like 
> > >> to go hunting boars with just a knife.   Crazy stuff.   Lotsa people 
> > >> hunt hogs there with dogs, and almost every dog gets severely cut up at 
> > >> one time or another.   Many dogs are killed by hogs.
> > >> 
> > >> Now that I have good friends in TX, maybe I'll get to hunt hogs with 
> > >> them some year.
> > >> 
> > >> combining aircraft and rifles makes for good fun, so long as nobody is 
> > >> shooting AT said aircraft.
> > >> 
> > >>> G Mann via Mercedes  > >>>   > >>> >>
> > >>> November 27, 2019 at 1:47 PM
> > >>> Caution: Video contains flying, shooting and animal eradication

Re: [MBZ] OT: Murder by hogs

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Holy zoological park!  I thought you lived in Tampa.

On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 11:41 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Our community, along with the community across the street from us, backs
> up onto a 60+ acre conservation area that was deeded to us when the
> developers purchased the property. The Alafia River flows along the
> southern part of the park, and there are environmental lands (ELAPP) owned
> by the County that surround the river for the better part of it’s length
> through it’s watershed. As a result of this there are a lot of wild animals
> that transit through the area as it’s a corridor for them to move between
> the eastern part of the county to Tampa Bay.
>
> So no, these are truly wild animals. Along with the panthers, bobcats,
> coyotes, deer, hawks, eagles, etc., etc. that live in the area. I’m going
> to miss listening to all the wildlife when we move in a few weeks. I’ll
> still have access to the park, as I’ll be in the other community, but we’ll
> be farther away from the edge of the park.
>
> -D
>
> > On Nov 28, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > Private park?  Are they someone's property?
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 7:53 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > We have feral hogs in our private park immediately behind my house.
> They’re nowhere near as large as the ones in Texas (that I’ve seen) but
> they’re certainly present and they do a lot of damage. If I go walking back
> there I always carry a sidearm in the event I stumble across a bunch of
> them.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> > > On Nov 27, 2019, at 8:32 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > My ex-BIL had the damn things rampaging through his housing
> development south of Houston tearing up yards. He was well armed but
> unfortunately discharging weapons was not allowed so they continued to
> sustain the damage. He was disappointed he couldn’t get some to put on the
> smoke.
> > >
> > > --FT
> > > Sent from iPhone
> > >
> > >> On Nov 27, 2019, at 8:09 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I'd like to go on a hog hunt, we don't have them here.My cousin lives
> in Texas but for some reason won't have anything to do with hunting
> hogs.It'd be fun to take some of dad's more interesting rifles on a hog
> hunt.
> > >> Actually I fired my .54 caliber muzzle loader today with 450grain
> "buffalo bullets". With 80 grains of real black powder behind it I bet one
> of those would roll a hog good and proper.
> > >> -Curt
> > >>
> > >>   On Wednesday, November 27, 2019, 7:35:56 PM EST, Curley McLain via
> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Good fun, and some of em make good pork if ya get to em fast enough.
>
> > >> My uncle and cousins hunted feral pigs in the mountains of Hawaii.
>  I
> > >> never got a chance to go with them.  THey used an 03A3.  probably one
> > >> issued to WWII Corps of Engineers in Hawaii, so long as they did not
> > >> have to leave the Hawaiian major islands.   Some of the Hawaiians
> like
> > >> to go hunting boars with just a knife.   Crazy stuff.   Lotsa people
> > >> hunt hogs there with dogs, and almost every dog gets severely cut up
> at
> > >> one time or another.   Many dogs are killed by hogs.
> > >>
> > >> Now that I have good friends in TX, maybe I'll get to hunt hogs with
> > >> them some year.
> > >>
> > >> combining aircraft and rifles makes for good fun, so long as nobody
> is
> > >> shooting AT said aircraft.
> > >>
> > >>> G Mann via Mercedes >
> > >>> November 27, 2019 at 1:47 PM
> > >>> Caution: Video contains flying, shooting and animal eradication of
> feral
> > >>> hogs.
> > >>> It is, however, on my personal bucket list.
> > >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaBN8rp_HZE <
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaBN8rp_HZE>
> > >>>
> > >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Murder by hogs

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Our community, along with the community across the street from us, backs up 
onto a 60+ acre conservation area that was deeded to us when the developers 
purchased the property. The Alafia River flows along the southern part of the 
park, and there are environmental lands (ELAPP) owned by the County that 
surround the river for the better part of it’s length through it’s watershed. 
As a result of this there are a lot of wild animals that transit through the 
area as it’s a corridor for them to move between the eastern part of the county 
to Tampa Bay.

So no, these are truly wild animals. Along with the panthers, bobcats, coyotes, 
deer, hawks, eagles, etc., etc. that live in the area. I’m going to miss 
listening to all the wildlife when we move in a few weeks. I’ll still have 
access to the park, as I’ll be in the other community, but we’ll be farther 
away from the edge of the park.

-D

> On Nov 28, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Private park?  Are they someone's property?
> 
> On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 7:53 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> We have feral hogs in our private park immediately behind my house. They’re 
> nowhere near as large as the ones in Texas (that I’ve seen) but they’re 
> certainly present and they do a lot of damage. If I go walking back there I 
> always carry a sidearm in the event I stumble across a bunch of them.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On Nov 27, 2019, at 8:32 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > My ex-BIL had the damn things rampaging through his housing development 
> > south of Houston tearing up yards. He was well armed but unfortunately 
> > discharging weapons was not allowed so they continued to sustain the 
> > damage. He was disappointed he couldn’t get some to put on the smoke. 
> > 
> > --FT
> > Sent from iPhone
> > 
> >> On Nov 27, 2019, at 8:09 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> >> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >> 
> >> I'd like to go on a hog hunt, we don't have them here.My cousin lives in 
> >> Texas but for some reason won't have anything to do with hunting hogs.It'd 
> >> be fun to take some of dad's more interesting rifles on a hog hunt.
> >> Actually I fired my .54 caliber muzzle loader today with 450grain "buffalo 
> >> bullets". With 80 grains of real black powder behind it I bet one of those 
> >> would roll a hog good and proper.
> >> -Curt
> >> 
> >>   On Wednesday, November 27, 2019, 7:35:56 PM EST, Curley McLain via 
> >> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:  
> >> 
> >> Good fun, and some of em make good pork if ya get to em fast enough.   
> >> My uncle and cousins hunted feral pigs in the mountains of Hawaii.   I 
> >> never got a chance to go with them.  THey used an 03A3.  probably one 
> >> issued to WWII Corps of Engineers in Hawaii, so long as they did not 
> >> have to leave the Hawaiian major islands.   Some of the Hawaiians like 
> >> to go hunting boars with just a knife.   Crazy stuff.   Lotsa people 
> >> hunt hogs there with dogs, and almost every dog gets severely cut up at 
> >> one time or another.   Many dogs are killed by hogs.
> >> 
> >> Now that I have good friends in TX, maybe I'll get to hunt hogs with 
> >> them some year.
> >> 
> >> combining aircraft and rifles makes for good fun, so long as nobody is 
> >> shooting AT said aircraft.
> >> 
> >>> G Mann via Mercedes  >>> >
> >>> November 27, 2019 at 1:47 PM
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> >>> hogs.
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> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaBN8rp_HZE 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Murder by hogs

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Private park?  Are they someone's property?

On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 7:53 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> We have feral hogs in our private park immediately behind my house.
> They’re nowhere near as large as the ones in Texas (that I’ve seen) but
> they’re certainly present and they do a lot of damage. If I go walking back
> there I always carry a sidearm in the event I stumble across a bunch of
> them.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Nov 27, 2019, at 8:32 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > My ex-BIL had the damn things rampaging through his housing development
> south of Houston tearing up yards. He was well armed but unfortunately
> discharging weapons was not allowed so they continued to sustain the
> damage. He was disappointed he couldn’t get some to put on the smoke.
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iPhone
> >
> >> On Nov 27, 2019, at 8:09 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'd like to go on a hog hunt, we don't have them here.My cousin lives
> in Texas but for some reason won't have anything to do with hunting
> hogs.It'd be fun to take some of dad's more interesting rifles on a hog
> hunt.
> >> Actually I fired my .54 caliber muzzle loader today with 450grain
> "buffalo bullets". With 80 grains of real black powder behind it I bet one
> of those would roll a hog good and proper.
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >>   On Wednesday, November 27, 2019, 7:35:56 PM EST, Curley McLain via
> Mercedes  wrote:
> >>
> >> Good fun, and some of em make good pork if ya get to em fast enough.
> >> My uncle and cousins hunted feral pigs in the mountains of Hawaii.   I
> >> never got a chance to go with them.  THey used an 03A3.  probably one
> >> issued to WWII Corps of Engineers in Hawaii, so long as they did not
> >> have to leave the Hawaiian major islands.   Some of the Hawaiians like
> >> to go hunting boars with just a knife.   Crazy stuff.   Lotsa people
> >> hunt hogs there with dogs, and almost every dog gets severely cut up at
> >> one time or another.   Many dogs are killed by hogs.
> >>
> >> Now that I have good friends in TX, maybe I'll get to hunt hogs with
> >> them some year.
> >>
> >> combining aircraft and rifles makes for good fun, so long as nobody is
> >> shooting AT said aircraft.
> >>
> >>> G Mann via Mercedes 
> >>> November 27, 2019 at 1:47 PM
> >>> Caution: Video contains flying, shooting and animal eradication of
> feral
> >>> hogs.
> >>> It is, however, on my personal bucket list.
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaBN8rp_HZE
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Murder by hogs

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

We have feral hogs in our private park immediately behind my house. They’re 
nowhere near as large as the ones in Texas (that I’ve seen) but they’re 
certainly present and they do a lot of damage. If I go walking back there I 
always carry a sidearm in the event I stumble across a bunch of them.

-D


> On Nov 27, 2019, at 8:32 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My ex-BIL had the damn things rampaging through his housing development south 
> of Houston tearing up yards. He was well armed but unfortunately discharging 
> weapons was not allowed so they continued to sustain the damage. He was 
> disappointed he couldn’t get some to put on the smoke. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2019, at 8:09 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I'd like to go on a hog hunt, we don't have them here.My cousin lives in 
>> Texas but for some reason won't have anything to do with hunting hogs.It'd 
>> be fun to take some of dad's more interesting rifles on a hog hunt.
>> Actually I fired my .54 caliber muzzle loader today with 450grain "buffalo 
>> bullets". With 80 grains of real black powder behind it I bet one of those 
>> would roll a hog good and proper.
>> -Curt
>> 
>>   On Wednesday, November 27, 2019, 7:35:56 PM EST, Curley McLain via 
>> Mercedes  wrote:  
>> 
>> Good fun, and some of em make good pork if ya get to em fast enough.   
>> My uncle and cousins hunted feral pigs in the mountains of Hawaii.   I 
>> never got a chance to go with them.  THey used an 03A3.  probably one 
>> issued to WWII Corps of Engineers in Hawaii, so long as they did not 
>> have to leave the Hawaiian major islands.   Some of the Hawaiians like 
>> to go hunting boars with just a knife.   Crazy stuff.   Lotsa people 
>> hunt hogs there with dogs, and almost every dog gets severely cut up at 
>> one time or another.   Many dogs are killed by hogs.
>> 
>> Now that I have good friends in TX, maybe I'll get to hunt hogs with 
>> them some year.
>> 
>> combining aircraft and rifles makes for good fun, so long as nobody is 
>> shooting AT said aircraft.
>> 
>>> G Mann via Mercedes 
>>> November 27, 2019 at 1:47 PM
>>> Caution: Video contains flying, shooting and animal eradication of feral
>>> hogs.
>>> It is, however, on my personal bucket list.
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaBN8rp_HZE
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Murder by hogs

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

My ex-BIL had the damn things rampaging through his housing development south 
of Houston tearing up yards. He was well armed but unfortunately discharging 
weapons was not allowed so they continued to sustain the damage. He was 
disappointed he couldn’t get some to put on the smoke. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Nov 27, 2019, at 8:09 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'd like to go on a hog hunt, we don't have them here.My cousin lives in 
> Texas but for some reason won't have anything to do with hunting hogs.It'd be 
> fun to take some of dad's more interesting rifles on a hog hunt.
> Actually I fired my .54 caliber muzzle loader today with 450grain "buffalo 
> bullets". With 80 grains of real black powder behind it I bet one of those 
> would roll a hog good and proper.
> -Curt
> 
>On Wednesday, November 27, 2019, 7:35:56 PM EST, Curley McLain via 
> Mercedes  wrote:  
> 
> Good fun, and some of em make good pork if ya get to em fast enough.   
> My uncle and cousins hunted feral pigs in the mountains of Hawaii.   I 
> never got a chance to go with them.  THey used an 03A3.  probably one 
> issued to WWII Corps of Engineers in Hawaii, so long as they did not 
> have to leave the Hawaiian major islands.   Some of the Hawaiians like 
> to go hunting boars with just a knife.   Crazy stuff.   Lotsa people 
> hunt hogs there with dogs, and almost every dog gets severely cut up at 
> one time or another.   Many dogs are killed by hogs.
> 
> Now that I have good friends in TX, maybe I'll get to hunt hogs with 
> them some year.
> 
> combining aircraft and rifles makes for good fun, so long as nobody is 
> shooting AT said aircraft.
> 
>> G Mann via Mercedes 
>> November 27, 2019 at 1:47 PM
>> Caution: Video contains flying, shooting and animal eradication of feral
>> hogs.
>> It is, however, on my personal bucket list.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaBN8rp_HZE
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Murder by hogs

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Some years ago when I was living in Houston there was a story about a 10yo girl 
who had gone out in the country hog hunting with her daddy and had no luck. 
They came back to the truck and were loading up when this huge hog comes 
walking across the road. The little girl grabs her rifle and shoots the thing. 
It was HUGE. I don’t remember exactly but it weighed several hundred pounds and 
was like 7ft long. Monstrous. Plenty to put on the smoke. 

--FT
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> On Nov 27, 2019, at 2:47 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Caution: Video contains flying, shooting and animal eradication of feral
> hogs.
> It is, however, on my personal bucket list.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaBN8rp_HZE
> 
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 11:48 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Feral hogs attack, kill womanPublished: Wednesday, November 27, 2019
>> 
>> A herd of wild hogs is suspected of fatally attacking a woman in rural
>> Texas on Sunday morning.
>> 
>> The body of 59-year-old Christine Marie Rollings was found outside the home
>> where she worked as a caregiver in Anahuac, Texas, in the early morning.
>> 
>> The Chambers County Sheriff's Office was initially unsure what killed
>> Rollings, but neighboring Jefferson County's Medical Examiner Selly Rivers
>> confirmed the cause of death as "exsanguination due to feral hog assault"
>> or that Rollings bled to death as a result of the hog attack.
>> 
>> "It was multiple animals, and we can kind of tell that from the different
>> sizes of the bites," Chambers County Sheriff Brian Hawthorne said during a
>> press conference Monday.
>> 
>> Officials report that it appears Rollings arrived at her clients' home
>> between 6 and 6:30 a.m. local time, got out of her car and locked her car
>> door.
>> 
>> "It was probably still dark and that's when hogs travel," Hawthorne said
>> during the press conference. When Rollings failed to arrive at 6 a.m., the
>> homeowners went outside and discovered her body between her car and the
>> front door, according to officials.
>> 
>> Hawthorne called the incident "tragic" and "rare."
>> 
>> The Texas Parks & Wildlife Department estimates the feral hog population is
>> more than 1.5 million in the state. The sheriff's office maintains traps to
>> assist farmers and ranchers whose lands are destroyed by the animals, which
>> can weigh more than 400 pounds when mature.
>> 
>> The sheriff's office maintains traps to assist farmers and ranchers whose
>> lands are destroyed by the animals.
>> 
>> Hawthorne said feral hogs do not usually pose a threat to humans and that
>> based on department research less than six feral hog attacks have been
>> reported in the nation.
>> 
>> He added, "I don't know how many we have in Texas, but I hope we never have
>> another in Chambers County" (*Washington Post*
>> <
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/11/26/feral-hogs-kill-woman-texas/
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Murder by hogs

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 I'd like to go on a hog hunt, we don't have them here.My cousin lives in Texas 
but for some reason won't have anything to do with hunting hogs.It'd be fun to 
take some of dad's more interesting rifles on a hog hunt.
Actually I fired my .54 caliber muzzle loader today with 450grain "buffalo 
bullets". With 80 grains of real black powder behind it I bet one of those 
would roll a hog good and proper.
-Curt

On Wednesday, November 27, 2019, 7:35:56 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Good fun, and some of em make good pork if ya get to em fast enough.   
My uncle and cousins hunted feral pigs in the mountains of Hawaii.   I 
never got a chance to go with them.  THey used an 03A3.  probably one 
issued to WWII Corps of Engineers in Hawaii, so long as they did not 
have to leave the Hawaiian major islands.   Some of the Hawaiians like 
to go hunting boars with just a knife.   Crazy stuff.   Lotsa people 
hunt hogs there with dogs, and almost every dog gets severely cut up at 
one time or another.   Many dogs are killed by hogs.

Now that I have good friends in TX, maybe I'll get to hunt hogs with 
them some year.

combining aircraft and rifles makes for good fun, so long as nobody is 
shooting AT said aircraft.

> G Mann via Mercedes 
> November 27, 2019 at 1:47 PM
> Caution: Video contains flying, shooting and animal eradication of feral
> hogs.
> It is, however, on my personal bucket list.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaBN8rp_HZE
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Murder by hogs

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Good fun, and some of em make good pork if ya get to em fast enough.   
My uncle and cousins hunted feral pigs in the mountains of Hawaii.   I 
never got a chance to go with them.  THey used an 03A3.  probably one 
issued to WWII Corps of Engineers in Hawaii, so long as they did not 
have to leave the Hawaiian major islands.   Some of the Hawaiians like 
to go hunting boars with just a knife.   Crazy stuff.   Lotsa people 
hunt hogs there with dogs, and almost every dog gets severely cut up at 
one time or another.   Many dogs are killed by hogs.


Now that I have good friends in TX, maybe I'll get to hunt hogs with 
them some year.


combining aircraft and rifles makes for good fun, so long as nobody is 
shooting AT said aircraft.



G Mann via Mercedes 
November 27, 2019 at 1:47 PM
Caution: Video contains flying, shooting and animal eradication of feral
hogs.
It is, however, on my personal bucket list.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaBN8rp_HZE



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Murder by hogs

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Seems a shame to waste all that meat.  I've eaten wild boar sukiyaki and it
was quite delicious.

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 2:48 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Caution: Video contains flying, shooting and animal eradication of feral
> hogs.
> It is, however, on my personal bucket list.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaBN8rp_HZE
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 11:48 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Feral hogs attack, kill womanPublished: Wednesday, November 27, 2019
> >
> > A herd of wild hogs is suspected of fatally attacking a woman in rural
> > Texas on Sunday morning.
> >
> > The body of 59-year-old Christine Marie Rollings was found outside the
> home
> > where she worked as a caregiver in Anahuac, Texas, in the early morning.
> >
> > The Chambers County Sheriff's Office was initially unsure what killed
> > Rollings, but neighboring Jefferson County's Medical Examiner Selly
> Rivers
> > confirmed the cause of death as "exsanguination due to feral hog assault"
> > or that Rollings bled to death as a result of the hog attack.
> >
> > "It was multiple animals, and we can kind of tell that from the different
> > sizes of the bites," Chambers County Sheriff Brian Hawthorne said during
> a
> > press conference Monday.
> >
> > Officials report that it appears Rollings arrived at her clients' home
> > between 6 and 6:30 a.m. local time, got out of her car and locked her car
> > door.
> >
> > "It was probably still dark and that's when hogs travel," Hawthorne said
> > during the press conference. When Rollings failed to arrive at 6 a.m.,
> the
> > homeowners went outside and discovered her body between her car and the
> > front door, according to officials.
> >
> > Hawthorne called the incident "tragic" and "rare."
> >
> > The Texas Parks & Wildlife Department estimates the feral hog population
> is
> > more than 1.5 million in the state. The sheriff's office maintains traps
> to
> > assist farmers and ranchers whose lands are destroyed by the animals,
> which
> > can weigh more than 400 pounds when mature.
> >
> > The sheriff's office maintains traps to assist farmers and ranchers whose
> > lands are destroyed by the animals.
> >
> > Hawthorne said feral hogs do not usually pose a threat to humans and that
> > based on department research less than six feral hog attacks have been
> > reported in the nation.
> >
> > He added, "I don't know how many we have in Texas, but I hope we never
> have
> > another in Chambers County" (*Washington Post*
> > <
> >
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/11/26/feral-hogs-kill-woman-texas/
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Murder by hogs

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Caution: Video contains flying, shooting and animal eradication of feral
hogs.
It is, however, on my personal bucket list.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaBN8rp_HZE

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 11:48 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Feral hogs attack, kill womanPublished: Wednesday, November 27, 2019
>
> A herd of wild hogs is suspected of fatally attacking a woman in rural
> Texas on Sunday morning.
>
> The body of 59-year-old Christine Marie Rollings was found outside the home
> where she worked as a caregiver in Anahuac, Texas, in the early morning.
>
> The Chambers County Sheriff's Office was initially unsure what killed
> Rollings, but neighboring Jefferson County's Medical Examiner Selly Rivers
> confirmed the cause of death as "exsanguination due to feral hog assault"
> or that Rollings bled to death as a result of the hog attack.
>
> "It was multiple animals, and we can kind of tell that from the different
> sizes of the bites," Chambers County Sheriff Brian Hawthorne said during a
> press conference Monday.
>
> Officials report that it appears Rollings arrived at her clients' home
> between 6 and 6:30 a.m. local time, got out of her car and locked her car
> door.
>
> "It was probably still dark and that's when hogs travel," Hawthorne said
> during the press conference. When Rollings failed to arrive at 6 a.m., the
> homeowners went outside and discovered her body between her car and the
> front door, according to officials.
>
> Hawthorne called the incident "tragic" and "rare."
>
> The Texas Parks & Wildlife Department estimates the feral hog population is
> more than 1.5 million in the state. The sheriff's office maintains traps to
> assist farmers and ranchers whose lands are destroyed by the animals, which
> can weigh more than 400 pounds when mature.
>
> The sheriff's office maintains traps to assist farmers and ranchers whose
> lands are destroyed by the animals.
>
> Hawthorne said feral hogs do not usually pose a threat to humans and that
> based on department research less than six feral hog attacks have been
> reported in the nation.
>
> He added, "I don't know how many we have in Texas, but I hope we never have
> another in Chambers County" (*Washington Post*
> <
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/11/26/feral-hogs-kill-woman-texas/
> >,
> Nov. 26).
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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Feral hogs attack, kill womanPublished: Wednesday, November 27, 2019

A herd of wild hogs is suspected of fatally attacking a woman in rural
Texas on Sunday morning.

The body of 59-year-old Christine Marie Rollings was found outside the home
where she worked as a caregiver in Anahuac, Texas, in the early morning.

The Chambers County Sheriff's Office was initially unsure what killed
Rollings, but neighboring Jefferson County's Medical Examiner Selly Rivers
confirmed the cause of death as "exsanguination due to feral hog assault"
or that Rollings bled to death as a result of the hog attack.

"It was multiple animals, and we can kind of tell that from the different
sizes of the bites," Chambers County Sheriff Brian Hawthorne said during a
press conference Monday.

Officials report that it appears Rollings arrived at her clients' home
between 6 and 6:30 a.m. local time, got out of her car and locked her car
door.

"It was probably still dark and that's when hogs travel," Hawthorne said
during the press conference. When Rollings failed to arrive at 6 a.m., the
homeowners went outside and discovered her body between her car and the
front door, according to officials.

Hawthorne called the incident "tragic" and "rare."

The Texas Parks & Wildlife Department estimates the feral hog population is
more than 1.5 million in the state. The sheriff's office maintains traps to
assist farmers and ranchers whose lands are destroyed by the animals, which
can weigh more than 400 pounds when mature.

The sheriff's office maintains traps to assist farmers and ranchers whose
lands are destroyed by the animals.

Hawthorne said feral hogs do not usually pose a threat to humans and that
based on department research less than six feral hog attacks have been
reported in the nation.

He added, "I don't know how many we have in Texas, but I hope we never have
another in Chambers County" (*Washington Post*
,
Nov. 26).
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