Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

2020-05-26 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Mitchell wrote:

> Have you enjoyed your free 30, I mean 90, I mean 360 day trial
> of Communism?
> 
> https://genesiustimes.com/poll-most-people-unimpressed-with-their-30-day-free-trial-of-communism/


The attached file, "free-trial.jpg" is not a jpeg, but a Web/P
file.  Odd that the extension is wrong.

Web/P is a format developed and pushed by Google.  Maybe the file
was hosted by google and they converted it?  But still with a .jpg
extension

It's a conspiracy!!  The communists and web admins are in cahoots
plotting to destroy the internet by distributing images with wrong
extensions!  The world as we know it will end   We will all
die!!!

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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

2020-05-26 Thread Frederick Moir via Mercedes
I have met the enemy and he is us. Pogo

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 11:52 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> 1984.
>
> > Larry Turner via Mercedes 
> > May 26, 2020 at 10:29 PM
> > It has been very frustrating to watch the D's (mostly IMO) turn the
> > crisis into a political maneuver to improve their agenda, especially
> > when we see the things they choose as being essential Vs those they
> > deem non-essential.   For instance, abortion clinics are essential
> > while hip and knee replacements are non-essential. (that decision must
> > have been made by someone never needed a new knee or hip).
> > Liquor Stores were declared early on to be essential.  They used some
> > kind of Bizzaro logic to come up with the declarations they did.
> >
> > Now they want to postpone the full opening of some states until a
> > vaccine is discovered.  But there may never be a vaccine!  I know we
> > are capable of many things and a Vaccines would msolve any problems
> > but it's just not realistic
> >
> > it's a strange world we are living in...
> > LarryT
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

2020-05-26 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

1984.


Larry Turner via Mercedes 
May 26, 2020 at 10:29 PM
It has been very frustrating to watch the D's (mostly IMO) turn the 
crisis into a political maneuver to improve their agenda, especially 
when we see the things they choose as being essential Vs those they 
deem non-essential.   For instance, abortion clinics are essential 
while hip and knee replacements are non-essential. (that decision must 
have been made by someone never needed a new knee or hip).
Liquor Stores were declared early on to be essential.  They used some 
kind of Bizzaro logic to come up with the declarations they did.


Now they want to postpone the full opening of some states until a 
vaccine is discovered.  But there may never be a vaccine!  I know we 
are capable of many things and a Vaccines would msolve any problems 
but it's just not realistic


it's a strange world we are living in...
LarryT



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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

2020-05-26 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
It has been very frustrating to watch the D's (mostly IMO) turn the 
crisis into a political maneuver to improve their agenda, especially 
when we see the things they choose as being essential Vs those they deem 
non-essential.   For instance, abortion clinics are essential while hip 
and knee replacements are non-essential. (that decision must have been 
made by someone never needed a new knee or hip).
Liquor Stores were declared early on to be essential.  They used some 
kind of Bizzaro logic to come up with the declarations they did.


Now they want to postpone the full opening of some states until a 
vaccine is discovered.  But there may never be a vaccine!  I know we are 
capable of many things and a Vaccines would msolve any problems but it's 
just not realistic


it's a strange world we are living in...
LarryT

On 5/26/2020 12:51 AM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:

Scott wrote:
Collateral damage includes everything from suicide and drug use
to domestic violence, to delayed disease diagnosis, to delayed
medical procedures, to hospital near bankruptcy and unemployed
health professionals.  Then there are the economic impacts like
unpaid bills and social damage like lost education.

That doesn't even touch on the loss of liberty, intrusion on
freedom, and the "mommy state" telling us what we can and cannot
do.  "Wear your jacket!"  "Don't go outside until you put on your
Wellingtons!"  "I'm cold, you need to wear a jacket."

Freedom means the individual gets to choose what they think is
best - even if they are wrong.

If someone feels they are at risk, they can stay home.  Or wear a
mask.  Or keep 12 ft away.  But don't force me to hide under my
bed because you are afraid, and I won't force you to leave your
house and take off your breathing mask.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

2020-05-26 Thread Clay via Mercedes
“I have been ever of the opinion that revolutions are not to be evaded”
-Benjamin Disraeli (1804-1881)

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> On May 26, 2020, at 9:05 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Relax folks, this is just a 90 day test run to prepare the mass population
> for Socialist rule, to get them adjusted to loss of individual liberty, and
> enforce the ideal that "only government knows what is best for them."
> 
> If we pass this test, we get Obama Repeat for President, and a "Fundamental
> Change" in government, as promised... or...
> Civil War Part 2.0

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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

2020-05-26 Thread Clay via Mercedes
“Everything belongs to the fatherland when the fatherland is in danger”
-George Jaques Danton (1759-1794)

“The worst thing in the world, next to anarchy, is government”
-Henry Ward Beecher (1813-1887)


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> On May 25, 2020, at 8:51 PM, fmiser via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> Scott wrote:
> 
>> Collateral damage includes everything from suicide and drug use
>> to domestic violence, to delayed disease diagnosis, to delayed
>> medical procedures, to hospital near bankruptcy and unemployed
>> health professionals.  Then there are the economic impacts like
>> unpaid bills and social damage like lost education. 
> 
> That doesn't even touch on the loss of liberty, intrusion on
> freedom, and the "mommy state" telling us what we can and cannot
> do.  "Wear your jacket!"  "Don't go outside until you put on your
> Wellingtons!"  "I'm cold, you need to wear a jacket."
> 
> Freedom means the individual gets to choose what they think is
> best - even if they are wrong.
> 
> If someone feels they are at risk, they can stay home.  Or wear a
> mask.  Or keep 12 ft away.  But don't force me to hide under my
> bed because you are afraid, and I won't force you to leave your
> house and take off your breathing mask.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

2020-05-26 Thread Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes
Have you enjoyed your free 30, I mean 90, I mean 360 day trial of Communism?

https://genesiustimes.com/poll-most-people-unimpressed-with-their-30-day-free-trial-of-communism/

On Tue, May 26, 2020 1:05 pm, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> Relax folks, this is just a 90 day test run to prepare the mass
> population for Socialist rule,
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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

2020-05-26 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes


https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

Look at the numbers. 

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

2020-05-26 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Relax folks, this is just a 90 day test run to prepare the mass population
for Socialist rule, to get them adjusted to loss of individual liberty, and
enforce the ideal that "only government knows what is best for them."

If we pass this test, we get Obama Repeat for President, and a "Fundamental
Change" in government, as promised... or...
Civil War Part 2.0

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 12:14 AM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> In the final analysis, the kinds of things fmiser mentioned are much more
> important than mine.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of fmiser via Mercedes
> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 12:51 AM
>
>
> > Scott wrote:
>
> > Collateral damage includes everything from suicide and drug use to
> > domestic violence, to delayed disease diagnosis, to delayed medical
> > procedures, to hospital near bankruptcy and unemployed health
> > professionals.  Then there are the economic impacts like unpaid bills
> > and social damage like lost education.
>
> That doesn't even touch on the loss of liberty, intrusion on freedom, and
> the "mommy state" telling us what we can and cannot do.  "Wear your
> jacket!"
> "Don't go outside until you put on your Wellingtons!"  "I'm cold, you need
> to wear a jacket."
>
> Freedom means the individual gets to choose what they think is best - even
> if they are wrong.
>
> If someone feels they are at risk, they can stay home.  Or wear a mask.  Or
> keep 12 ft away.  But don't force me to hide under my bed because you are
> afraid, and I won't force you to leave your house and take off your
> breathing mask.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

2020-05-26 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
In the final analysis, the kinds of things fmiser mentioned are much more
important than mine. 

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of fmiser via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 12:51 AM


> Scott wrote:

> Collateral damage includes everything from suicide and drug use to 
> domestic violence, to delayed disease diagnosis, to delayed medical 
> procedures, to hospital near bankruptcy and unemployed health 
> professionals.  Then there are the economic impacts like unpaid bills 
> and social damage like lost education.

That doesn't even touch on the loss of liberty, intrusion on freedom, and
the "mommy state" telling us what we can and cannot do.  "Wear your jacket!"
"Don't go outside until you put on your Wellingtons!"  "I'm cold, you need
to wear a jacket."

Freedom means the individual gets to choose what they think is best - even
if they are wrong.

If someone feels they are at risk, they can stay home.  Or wear a mask.  Or
keep 12 ft away.  But don't force me to hide under my bed because you are
afraid, and I won't force you to leave your house and take off your
breathing mask.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

2020-05-25 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Scott wrote:

> Collateral damage includes everything from suicide and drug use
> to domestic violence, to delayed disease diagnosis, to delayed
> medical procedures, to hospital near bankruptcy and unemployed
> health professionals.  Then there are the economic impacts like
> unpaid bills and social damage like lost education. 

That doesn't even touch on the loss of liberty, intrusion on
freedom, and the "mommy state" telling us what we can and cannot
do.  "Wear your jacket!"  "Don't go outside until you put on your
Wellingtons!"  "I'm cold, you need to wear a jacket."

Freedom means the individual gets to choose what they think is
best - even if they are wrong.

If someone feels they are at risk, they can stay home.  Or wear a
mask.  Or keep 12 ft away.  But don't force me to hide under my
bed because you are afraid, and I won't force you to leave your
house and take off your breathing mask.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

2020-05-25 Thread Clay via Mercedes
JFK died from WRD. 

Storied from my elderly mother, survivor of the depression of ’29, numerous 
real epidemics and quarantines (locked doors), WWII, and all the history over 
the past 90 years says she never has seen the country in such poor shape as it 
is now.  Nobody closed the economy, except FDR was a disaster with is policies 
which crippled the nation.  But, the daily work and business was as active as 
could be.  Shops and offices, as well as transport and manufacturing went on so 
that the nation could remain viable.  It was expected, demanded by the 
citizenry, that there be work, jobs, life.  FDR stole butter and other 
“rations” during the war, which flooded the market once Europe fell.  It was a 
corrupt time, in her words, but nothing compared to the outright criminality of 
the past three months.  Huey Long looks like a saint in comparison.


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> On May 24, 2020, at 10:03 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Exactly so.  Collateral damage includes everything from suicide and drug use 
> to domestic violence, to delayed disease diagnosis, to delayed medical 
> procedures, to hospital near bankruptcy and unemployed health professionals.  
> Then there are the economic impacts like unpaid bills and social damage like 
> lost education.  If we still had real reporters and news media they would 
> ferret out and quantify such things.  But we don't.  For the most part we 
> have a herd of jackals and hyenas.
> 
> He operation may be a success but the patient is near death.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

2020-05-25 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>they are overdiagnosed to begin with.

That would be my guess. 

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

2020-05-25 Thread Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes
On Mon, May 25, 2020 11:58 am, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
> That temporal arteritis stuff would all happen currently if anyone
> thought to check the labs for it. Pretty urgent.

Old ladies getting dizzy get delayed in the best of times.
Her first big dizzy spell was in June. She fainted in my arms in
September. I'm just glad I happened to be standing behind her when that
happened. She finally met the brain guy a week before Christmas. Got the
biopsy done a week before the Super Bowl. Spent Super Bowl weekend in the
hospital when she took a downturn right before the lab dealt with the
biopsy. Treatment began around the first of February, in the form of a
chemo agent with anti-inflammatory side effects.

Today, I suspect we'd get nowhere until she passed out and rode an
ambulance in September, then they'd start running the tests that got run
in July and August, unless Arteritis is much farther up the list of things
to check than it used to be. I ended up believing that Arteritis is so
rare because more people die from it than are diagnosed with it.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

2020-05-25 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
That temporal arteritis stuff would all happen currently if anyone thought
to check the labs for it. Pretty urgent.

The other side is a lot of people are not seeking care because they dont
want to go places like ERs or doctors offices due to fear of contracking
coronavirus. Heart attack diagnoses went down quite a lot, for instance.
Which means people are either having them and not coming in or they are
overdiagnosed to begin with.

On Sun, May 24, 2020, 10:47 AM Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 9 weeks after they locked down medical services, I'm more concerned with
> those whose conditions are worsening or even dying due to the inability to
> get nonemergency health care.
>
> Example One: The local hospital's rehab center has been 100% shuttered for
> nine weeks now. Taking away my 87 year old father's pulmonary rehab has
> not helped him any.
>
> Example Two: My mom nearly died from Giant Cell Arteritis ten years ago,
> it was quite the race to get it diagnosed/treated before she went blind or
> toes up. As our retired family physician said when she told him about it
> later: "Arteritis! That's the last thing you check for!" To which Mom
> replied in her deadpan way: "I noticed".
> In the current environment, zero chance of success.
> Can't get a face to face doctor's appointment, only 'phone examinations'.
> Can't see the brain specialist who finally ordered the biopsy.
> Can't do scheduled surgeries, like biopsies of arteries in your head.
>
> On Sun, May 24, 2020 1:35 pm, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > The true measure would be an increase in suicides over the typical
> > number; that increase may be attributed to the lock down.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

2020-05-25 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Exactly so.  Collateral damage includes everything from suicide and drug use to 
domestic violence, to delayed disease diagnosis, to delayed medical procedures, 
to hospital near bankruptcy and unemployed health professionals.  Then there 
are the economic impacts like unpaid bills and social damage like lost 
education.  If we still had real reporters and news media they would ferret out 
and quantify such things.  But we don't.  For the most part we have a herd of 
jackals and hyenas.

He operation may be a success but the patient is near death. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 1:47 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Mitchell Haley EA 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease
> 
> 9 weeks after they locked down medical services, I'm more concerned with
> those whose conditions are worsening or even dying due to the inability to get
> nonemergency health care.
> 
> Example One: The local hospital's rehab center has been 100% shuttered for
> nine weeks now. Taking away my 87 year old father's pulmonary rehab has not
> helped him any.
> 
> Example Two: My mom nearly died from Giant Cell Arteritis ten years ago, it
> was quite the race to get it diagnosed/treated before she went blind or toes
> up. As our retired family physician said when she told him about it
> later: "Arteritis! That's the last thing you check for!" To which Mom replied 
> in
> her deadpan way: "I noticed".
> In the current environment, zero chance of success.
> Can't get a face to face doctor's appointment, only 'phone examinations'.
> Can't see the brain specialist who finally ordered the biopsy.
> Can't do scheduled surgeries, like biopsies of arteries in your head.
> 
> On Sun, May 24, 2020 1:35 pm, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > The true measure would be an increase in suicides over the typical
> > number; that increase may be attributed to the lock down.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

2020-05-24 Thread Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

2020-05-24 Thread Clay via Mercedes
Up in GWN, the small health facilities close the doors if a WRD shows up.  No 
More Health for YOU!  They were closed up for 8 weeks anyway, since they could 
not perform normal care, and nobody in the wee villages about had the bug 
anyway.  Lost millions of $$$ and laid off staff.  Then they get to open, but 
some guy mystery gets WRD and … then it is too dangerous for being doctors.

Mom called the other day because her health care system is losing so much 
money, they are calling patients to come back in to get services.  Eye doctors 
want her to show up to get injected fr macular degeneration.  She wants to know 
if it is better to be blind or dead (by going to provider)?  Not a small trip, 
as she will need to sit in the car awaiting the moment she can go inside for 
service, then hang out while her eyeball dilates until the injection takes 
place, and after, gets stuck in a waiting area until she is able to see well 
enough to walk out to the Uber for a trip back home.  All the while praying she 
does not fall over and break her hip (gonna be 91 this year).

My doc will see people in vivo.  You better be on death’s door, but he will see 
you.  ALONE, no caregivers allowed.  The practice has been doing distance 
doctoring for two weeks and just got the office back open.  No tests or 
services other than touching you with a ten foot pole.

clay 

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> On May 24, 2020, at 9:47 AM, Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 9 weeks after they locked down medical services, I'm more concerned with
> those whose conditions are worsening or even dying due to the inability to
> get nonemergency health care.
> 
> Example One: The local hospital's rehab center has been 100% shuttered for
> nine weeks now. Taking away my 87 year old father's pulmonary rehab has
> not helped him any.
> 
> Example Two: My mom nearly died from Giant Cell Arteritis ten years ago,
> it was quite the race to get it diagnosed/treated before she went blind or
> toes up. As our retired family physician said when she told him about it
> later: "Arteritis! That's the last thing you check for!" To which Mom
> replied in her deadpan way: "I noticed".
> In the current environment, zero chance of success.
> Can't get a face to face doctor's appointment, only 'phone examinations'.
> Can't see the brain specialist who finally ordered the biopsy.
> Can't do scheduled surgeries, like biopsies of arteries in your head.
> 
> On Sun, May 24, 2020 1:35 pm, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> The true measure would be an increase in suicides over the typical
>> number; that increase may be attributed to the lock down.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

2020-05-24 Thread Clay via Mercedes
Too hard to pry the data AK supplies to CDC, but the newspaper has articles 
stating that lockdown has caused marked increase in crisis line contacts.  From 
the reporting out of SEA, the locals are reaching the end of very short ropes.  
Large increase in suspicious deaths, domestic crisis, mental health and suicide 
response by kops, with resulting fatalities.  Far more media stories than in 
past years.  Probably on a par with hot summer nights when the clubs and bars 
were packed and crack heads would try to cap each other.  Also pretty hard to 
know if it was murder suicide or the driver lost control on an empty roadway.  
It feels like the same number of traffic deaths popping up in the ipad news 
feeds, but nobody is supposed to be driving, and the crashed cars are in out of 
the ordinary locations.

clay 

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> On May 24, 2020, at 9:35 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The true measure would be an increase in suicides over the typical number; 
> that increase may be attributed to the lock down.
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> May 23, 2020 7:56:45 PM Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes 
> :
> 
>>  On Sat, May 23, 2020 6:11 pm, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>   California doctors say they've seen more deaths from suicide than 
>>> 
>>> coronavirus since lockdowns 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/california-doctors-say-theyve-see 
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>>> n-more-deaths-from-suicide-than-coronavirus-since-lockdowns 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> A friend and I crunched the numbers the other night. 
>> 
>> A typical CA month has 4000 suicides. 
>> 
>> WhuFlu CA deaths clearly less than that. 
>> 
>> Myth not busted. 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

2020-05-24 Thread Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes
9 weeks after they locked down medical services, I'm more concerned with
those whose conditions are worsening or even dying due to the inability to
get nonemergency health care.

Example One: The local hospital's rehab center has been 100% shuttered for
nine weeks now. Taking away my 87 year old father's pulmonary rehab has
not helped him any.

Example Two: My mom nearly died from Giant Cell Arteritis ten years ago,
it was quite the race to get it diagnosed/treated before she went blind or
toes up. As our retired family physician said when she told him about it
later: "Arteritis! That's the last thing you check for!" To which Mom
replied in her deadpan way: "I noticed".
In the current environment, zero chance of success.
Can't get a face to face doctor's appointment, only 'phone examinations'.
Can't see the brain specialist who finally ordered the biopsy.
Can't do scheduled surgeries, like biopsies of arteries in your head.

On Sun, May 24, 2020 1:35 pm, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> The true measure would be an increase in suicides over the typical
> number; that increase may be attributed to the lock down.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

2020-05-24 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Exactly. And that’s where some of this reporting is really messed up. It omits 
background data that would make the claim pretty lame.

I can totally understand an increase in suicides over what’s taking place. 
Lot’s of bad stuff going on to a lot of people.

-D

> On May 24, 2020, at 1:35 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The true measure would be an increase in suicides over the typical number; 
> that increase may be attributed to the lock down.
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> May 23, 2020 7:56:45 PM Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes 
> :
> 
>>  On Sat, May 23, 2020 6:11 pm, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>   California doctors say they've seen more deaths from suicide than 
>>> 
>>> coronavirus since lockdowns 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/california-doctors-say-theyve-see 
>>> 
>>> n-more-deaths-from-suicide-than-coronavirus-since-lockdowns 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> A friend and I crunched the numbers the other night. 
>> 
>> A typical CA month has 4000 suicides. 
>> 
>> WhuFlu CA deaths clearly less than that. 
>> 
>> Myth not busted. 
>> 
>> Mitch. 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

2020-05-24 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
The true measure would be an increase in suicides over the typical number; that 
increase may be attributed to the lock down.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC
May 23, 2020 7:56:45 PM Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes :

>   On Sat, May 23, 2020 6:11 pm, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: 
>  
>  
>  
> 
> >California doctors say they've seen more deaths from suicide than 
> >   
> > coronavirus since lockdowns 
> >   
> >  
> >   
> > https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/california-doctors-say-theyve-see 
> >   
> > n-more-deaths-from-suicide-than-coronavirus-since-lockdowns 
> >   
> >  
> >  
>  
>  A friend and I crunched the numbers the other night. 
>  
> A typical CA month has 4000 suicides. 
>  
> WhuFlu CA deaths clearly less than that. 
>  
> Myth not busted. 
>  
> Mitch. 
>  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

2020-05-23 Thread Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes
On Sat, May 23, 2020 6:11 pm, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> California doctors say they've seen more deaths from suicide than
> coronavirus since lockdowns
>
> https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/california-doctors-say-theyve-see
> n-more-deaths-from-suicide-than-coronavirus-since-lockdowns

A friend and I crunched the numbers the other night.
A typical CA month has 4000 suicides.
WhuFlu CA deaths clearly less than that.
Myth not busted.
Mitch.

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[MBZ] OT: cure worse than disease

2020-05-23 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
California doctors say they've seen more deaths from suicide than coronavirus 
since lockdowns

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/california-doctors-say-theyve-seen-more-deaths-from-suicide-than-coronavirus-since-lockdowns

Max Dillon
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