Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer, switching keyboards

2014-10-30 Thread Ed Booher via Mercedes
So I'm going to go 180 on you and a full on different direction. My opinion
is to get a mechanical switch keyboard and then get double shot keys. Yes
the boards can be a little pricey (mine was $129) but the double shot keys
will never fade. As the letters are a physically different layer, not
paint, silkscreening or sticker, you'd have to completely wear away the
entire key to lose the letter.

EdB

On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 2:11 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
wrote:

> 'Trying to set up new HP computer.  Old HP keyboard has easily readable
> letters and symbols on the keys; markings on new keyboard keys are barely
> readable - are thin and very faintly/dimly printed.  At first, thought I'd
> just use old keyboard with the new computer, but now I'm thinking the old
> one may not be 100% compatible with the new computer - some special
> features, etc.  What ya think?
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer, switching keyboards

2014-10-25 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
'First thing I checked - keys not interchangeable, and my shaky hands 
preclude painting - already smeared 2 of 'em badly with MB # 9147 
arktikweis.


I think I'll be OK with old keyboard.  We'll see.

Wilton

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Pop an identical key off of each keyboard key (letter q for instance) and
see if they are exchangeable between keyboards.  If they are, swap your 
old

keys over to the new keyboard, careful not to mix them up, and then
whichever new keys still haven't moved, those will need either a better
sticker or maybe paint with finger nail polish.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer, switching keyboards

2014-10-25 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Pop an identical key off of each keyboard key (letter q for instance) and
see if they are exchangeable between keyboards.  If they are, swap your old
keys over to the new keyboard, careful not to mix them up, and then
whichever new keys still haven't moved, those will need either a better
sticker or maybe paint with finger nail polish.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer, switching keyboards

2014-10-25 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Oct 25, 2014 10:17 AM, "WILTON via Mercedes" 
wrote:
>
> Well, I don't really have it solved.  I'm still where I was when I asked
the question - I don't know what features I may be missing by using the old
keyboard, and still can't see the new one well enough to use it easily. BTW,

You might not have the Windows key (usually between control and alt), that
would be a loss as it is used for a lot of keyboard shortcuts.  The other
keys are usually just "fun" keys, I've seen:
- volume up and down
- play, pause, forward, reverse
- the HP web site
- random sites that paid for a dedicated key (Yahoo, MSN)
- start a specific browser
- start a specific music player
- start Windows Media Player

As long as you have the Windows key you probably will never miss any of the
new things - even when I'm on a computer that has the new keys I still end
up loading applications normally before I remember I have a special key.

> my eyesight is excellent - 20/30 corrected to 20/20 with progressive
lenses.

Attaboy!  I'm a "little" younger than you and feel lucky to be corrected to
20/30.  I can't see much uncorrected, every now and again one of the kids
will hide my glasses just to see me wander around the house running into
stuff. :)

Best,
Tim
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Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer, switching keyboards

2014-10-25 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Well, I don't really have it solved.  I'm still where I was when I asked the 
question - I don't know what features I may be missing by using the old 
keyboard, and still can't see the new one well enough to use it easily. 
BTW, my eyesight is excellent - 20/30 corrected to 20/20 with progressive 
lenses.


Wilton

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Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer, switching keyboards


Wilton has his problem solved but in case anyone
else has a similar problem, there are easy-read
and glow in the dark keyboards

Here is another possibility
http://www.evertek.com/viewpart.asp?auto=87109

or
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Ergoguys-EZSee-Large-Print-Keyboard-Yellow/14700413
uuugly, but functional

Or stickers
http://www.amazon.com/KEYBOARD-STICKERS-TRANSPARENT-BACKGROUND-Online-Welcome®/dp/B002FPQBEM/ref=pd_bxgy_pc_img_z

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Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer, switching keyboards

2014-10-25 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Wilton has his problem solved but in case anyone 
else has a similar problem, there are easy-read 
and glow in the dark keyboards


Here is another possibility
http://www.evertek.com/viewpart.asp?auto=87109

or
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Ergoguys-EZSee-Large-Print-Keyboard-Yellow/14700413 
uuugly, but functional


Or stickers
http://www.amazon.com/KEYBOARD-STICKERS-TRANSPARENT-BACKGROUND-Online-Welcome®/dp/B002FPQBEM/ref=pd_bxgy_pc_img_z

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Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer, switching keyboards

2014-10-24 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I'm using a keyboard that is several computers old - and I don't miss the
new special keys, as I don't use those functions. They are not essential,
so try your old one and see if you think you are missing anything. I bet
not . . .

On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 1:47 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
wrote:

> New has USB; old has PS2.  I have adapter and have plugged it in, and it
> seems to work generally; just not sure what special function keys may or
> may not be compatible.  New has a few different/more symbols.
>
> Wilton
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer, switching keyboards

2014-10-24 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 24/10/2014 3:16 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 13:28:04 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
 wrote:


Toss them both and get a nice cordless keyboard and mouse set.

Cordless mouse, yes.

Cordless keyboard, NO! (Unless you want to have someone reading
  everything you are typing.)


Craig




Hey, they will be pretty bored if they spend time reading what I am typing.
Especially, when it is to the forum, such as is now the case.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer, switching keyboards

2014-10-24 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 13:28:04 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Toss them both and get a nice cordless keyboard and mouse set.

Cordless mouse, yes.

Cordless keyboard, NO! (Unless you want to have someone reading
 everything you are typing.)


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer, switching keyboards

2014-10-24 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
You might be able to remap some of those keys, either directly in your 
setup or with some little utility.  Then you could put some labels on 
them, use them for different stuff.  or not, I have always found that 
annoying.


--R


On 10/24/14 2:47 PM, WILTON wrote:
New has USB; old has PS2.  I have adapter and have plugged it in, and 
it seems to work generally; just not sure what special function keys 
may or may not be compatible.  New has a few different/more symbols.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 


To: 
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer, switching keyboards


The old one should work fine, depending on the connector you might 
need a PS2<-->USB adapter.  The older PS2 are the round ones, not 
sure new dumputers have those any more.


--R


On 10/24/14 2:11 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
'Trying to set up new HP computer.  Old HP keyboard has easily 
readable letters and symbols on the keys; markings on new keyboard 
keys are barely readable - are thin and very faintly/dimly printed.  
At first, thought I'd just use old keyboard with the new computer, 
but now I'm thinking the old one may not be 100% compatible with the 
new computer - some special features, etc.  What ya think?


Or, are there little stickers available that I can put on the new 
keyboard keys to show the letters and symbols more boldly?


Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer, switching keyboards

2014-10-24 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
New has USB; old has PS2.  I have adapter and have plugged it in, and it 
seems to work generally; just not sure what special function keys may or may 
not be compatible.  New has a few different/more symbols.


Wilton

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To: 
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer, switching keyboards


The old one should work fine, depending on the connector you might need a 
PS2<-->USB adapter.  The older PS2 are the round ones, not sure new 
dumputers have those any more.


--R


On 10/24/14 2:11 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
'Trying to set up new HP computer.  Old HP keyboard has easily readable 
letters and symbols on the keys; markings on new keyboard keys are barely 
readable - are thin and very faintly/dimly printed.  At first, thought 
I'd just use old keyboard with the new computer, but now I'm thinking the 
old one may not be 100% compatible with the new computer - some special 
features, etc.  What ya think?


Or, are there little stickers available that I can put on the new 
keyboard keys to show the letters and symbols more boldly?


Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer, switching keyboards

2014-10-24 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
The old one should work fine, depending on the connector you might need 
a PS2<-->USB adapter.  The older PS2 are the round ones, not sure new 
dumputers have those any more.


--R


On 10/24/14 2:11 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

'Trying to set up new HP computer.  Old HP keyboard has easily readable letters 
and symbols on the keys; markings on new keyboard keys are barely readable - 
are thin and very faintly/dimly printed.  At first, thought I'd just use old 
keyboard with the new computer, but now I'm thinking the old one may not be 
100% compatible with the new computer - some special features, etc.  What ya 
think?

Or, are there little stickers available that I can put on the new keyboard keys 
to show the letters and symbols more boldly?

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer, switching keyboards

2014-10-24 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

Toss them both and get a nice cordless keyboard and mouse set.

RB

On 24/10/2014 1:22 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
If the plugs are the same, it should work.  new one is most likely 
USB.  Depends how old the old one is.  <10 yrs old, it probably is 
USB.  older, round plug, it won't work unless you buy an adapticator.



'Trying to set up new HP computer.  Old HP keyboard has easily 
readable letters and symbols on the keys; markings on new keyboard 
keys are barely readable - are thin and very faintly/dimly printed. 
At first, thought I'd just use old keyboard with the new computer, 
but now I'm thinking the old one may not be 100% compatible with the 
new computer - some special features, etc.  What ya think?
Or, are there little stickers available that I can put on the new 
keyboard keys to show the letters and symbols more boldly?

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] OT - New computer, switching keyboards

2014-10-24 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
If the plugs are the same, it should work.  new one is most likely 
USB.  Depends how old the old one is.  <10 yrs old, it probably is 
USB.  older, round plug, it won't work unless you buy an adapticator.



'Trying to set up new HP computer.  Old HP keyboard has easily 
readable letters and symbols on the keys; markings on new keyboard 
keys are barely readable - are thin and very faintly/dimly printed. 
At first, thought I'd just use old keyboard with the new computer, 
but now I'm thinking the old one may not be 100% compatible with the 
new computer - some special features, etc.  What ya think? 

Or, are there little stickers available that I can put on the new 
keyboard keys to show the letters and symbols more boldly?   


Wilton


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[MBZ] OT - New computer, switching keyboards

2014-10-24 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
'Trying to set up new HP computer.  Old HP keyboard has easily readable letters 
and symbols on the keys; markings on new keyboard keys are barely readable - 
are thin and very faintly/dimly printed.  At first, thought I'd just use old 
keyboard with the new computer, but now I'm thinking the old one may not be 
100% compatible with the new computer - some special features, etc.  What ya 
think?  

Or, are there little stickers available that I can put on the new keyboard keys 
to show the letters and symbols more boldly?

Wilton
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