Re: [MBZ] OT Mac: Bummer

2015-11-19 Thread clay via Mercedes 
For longevity I would be aimed at a Mid 2010 with the Core i5.   The C2D are 
getting long in the tooth and apt to hit their ceiling OS wise.  That does 
orphan a bunch of legacy hardware.  

clay

On Nov 19, 2015, at 6:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

> Yeah, unfortunately the CD vs. C2D thing is what's going to push that machine 
> into obsolescence.
> 
> I just bought a pristine, one owner 17" MacBook Pro that's a C2D machine. It 
> will go up to 8Gb RAM for very little $$ and with an SSD to replace the 
> rotating drive with be plenty fast. And this one has the BTO matte screen and 
> dual video cards, too. The dual video card feature was unique to this model 
> and went a long way in offloading machine cycles from the main processor.
> 
> This will free up a very nice C2D unibody 15" MacBook Pro I currently use for 
> my daily home machine. It will go on CL to subsidize the purchase of the 17" 
> MBP.
> 
> MacDan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2015, at 10:13 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I finally got the macbook 1,1 up to 10.6.8.  It then installed Safari 5.  
>> All that works, but safari 5 is unsupported for many online applications.  
>> Chrome, Right?  THat is what I run on my MBP with 10.6.8.
>> 
>> Wrong!  After I downloaded chrome, and tried to installed it, it won't run.  
>> It seems that it is not supporting intel core2 processors!  I think it wants 
>> C2D.
>> 
>> So, still no browser.  I guess I'll check out FF, but it would not run on 
>> 10.5.  At least safari 5 is accepted more places than 4.
>> 
>> Note to Apple, google, Mozilla:  It really sucks that I can run winders (and 
>> web browsers) on 10-15 yr old machines, but I can't run a simple web browser 
>> on a 7 yr old Intel Mac!
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac: Bummer

2015-11-19 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes 
That and the CD only does 32 bit processing while the C2D does 64 
bit. L2 (Level 2) cache in the CD is 2MB while the C2D L2 is up to 
4MB.


There are also some additional features in the C2D such as memory 
disambiguation that allows it to process more data at once at a 
higher speed, but it can also get to that data faster.


Pretty much any Intel PC processor you buy today is a C2D design, 
with the primary differences being FSB (front side bus) speed and 
the amount of CPU cache memory.


Dan


then there are i5 and i7 processors.  Mine is an i5 so I think it 
will hang on a few more years.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac: Bummer

2015-11-19 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
You need older versions for browsers, the new ones for download are  
always the latest.\


Chrome has stopped supporting 10.6.8, but I'm sure you can download  
the older version of that.


Firefox is still current for 10.6.8 as a couple months ago when I  
downloaded the last version.  Again, if the latest version won't work,  
find an older one.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac: Bummer

2015-11-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
Sorry.

CD = CoreDuo processor

C2D = Core2Duo processor

Dan

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> On Nov 19, 2015, at 9:56 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> what is C2D?
> 
> --R
> 
>> On 11/19/15 9:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Yeah, unfortunately the CD vs. C2D thing is what's going to push that 
>> machine into obsolescence.
>> 
>> I just bought a pristine, one owner 17" MacBook Pro that's a C2D machine. It 
>> will go up to 8Gb RAM for very little $$ and with an SSD to replace the 
>> rotating drive with be plenty fast. And this one has the BTO matte screen 
>> and dual video cards, too. The dual video card feature was unique to this 
>> model and went a long way in offloading machine cycles from the main 
>> processor.
>> 
>> This will free up a very nice C2D unibody 15" MacBook Pro I currently use 
>> for my daily home machine. It will go on CL to subsidize the purchase of the 
>> 17" MBP.
>> 
>> MacDan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2015, at 10:13 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I finally got the macbook 1,1 up to 10.6.8.  It then installed Safari 5.  
>>> All that works, but safari 5 is unsupported for many online applications.  
>>> Chrome, Right?  THat is what I run on my MBP with 10.6.8.
>>> 
>>> Wrong!  After I downloaded chrome, and tried to installed it, it won't run. 
>>>  It seems that it is not supporting intel core2 processors!  I think it 
>>> wants C2D.
>>> 
>>> So, still no browser.  I guess I'll check out FF, but it would not run on 
>>> 10.5.  At least safari 5 is accepted more places than 4.
>>> 
>>> Note to Apple, google, Mozilla:  It really sucks that I can run winders 
>>> (and web browsers) on 10-15 yr old machines, but I can't run a simple web 
>>> browser on a 7 yr old Intel Mac!
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac: Bummer

2015-11-19 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes 

I see, the C2D goes up to 2, which is 1 more than 1, so it's better.

--R

On 11/19/15 10:06 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Sorry.

CD = CoreDuo processor

C2D = Core2Duo processor

Dan

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On Nov 19, 2015, at 9:56 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
wrote:

what is C2D?

--R


On 11/19/15 9:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
Yeah, unfortunately the CD vs. C2D thing is what's going to push that machine 
into obsolescence.

I just bought a pristine, one owner 17" MacBook Pro that's a C2D machine. It 
will go up to 8Gb RAM for very little $$ and with an SSD to replace the rotating 
drive with be plenty fast. And this one has the BTO matte screen and dual video 
cards, too. The dual video card feature was unique to this model and went a long way 
in offloading machine cycles from the main processor.

This will free up a very nice C2D unibody 15" MacBook Pro I currently use for my 
daily home machine. It will go on CL to subsidize the purchase of the 17" MBP.

MacDan

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On Nov 18, 2015, at 10:13 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

I finally got the macbook 1,1 up to 10.6.8.  It then installed Safari 5.  All 
that works, but safari 5 is unsupported for many online applications.  Chrome, 
Right?  THat is what I run on my MBP with 10.6.8.

Wrong!  After I downloaded chrome, and tried to installed it, it won't run.  It 
seems that it is not supporting intel core2 processors!  I think it wants C2D.

So, still no browser.  I guess I'll check out FF, but it would not run on 10.5. 
 At least safari 5 is accepted more places than 4.

Note to Apple, google, Mozilla:  It really sucks that I can run winders (and 
web browsers) on 10-15 yr old machines, but I can't run a simple web browser on 
a 7 yr old Intel Mac!

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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac: Bummer

2015-11-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
That and the CD only does 32 bit processing while the C2D does 64 bit. L2 
(Level 2) cache in the CD is 2MB while the C2D L2 is up to 4MB.

There are also some additional features in the C2D such as memory 
disambiguation that allows it to process more data at once at a higher speed, 
but it can also get to that data faster.

Pretty much any Intel PC processor you buy today is a C2D design, with the 
primary differences being FSB (front side bus) speed and the amount of CPU 
cache memory.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 19, 2015, at 10:24 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I see, the C2D goes up to 2, which is 1 more than 1, so it's better.
> 
> --R
> 
>> On 11/19/15 10:06 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Sorry.
>> 
>> CD = CoreDuo processor
>> 
>> C2D = Core2Duo processor
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Nov 19, 2015, at 9:56 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> what is C2D?
>>> 
>>> --R
>>> 
 On 11/19/15 9:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 Yeah, unfortunately the CD vs. C2D thing is what's going to push that 
 machine into obsolescence.
 
 I just bought a pristine, one owner 17" MacBook Pro that's a C2D machine. 
 It will go up to 8Gb RAM for very little $$ and with an SSD to replace the 
 rotating drive with be plenty fast. And this one has the BTO matte screen 
 and dual video cards, too. The dual video card feature was unique to this 
 model and went a long way in offloading machine cycles from the main 
 processor.
 
 This will free up a very nice C2D unibody 15" MacBook Pro I currently use 
 for my daily home machine. It will go on CL to subsidize the purchase of 
 the 17" MBP.
 
 MacDan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
> On Nov 18, 2015, at 10:13 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I finally got the macbook 1,1 up to 10.6.8.  It then installed Safari 5.  
> All that works, but safari 5 is unsupported for many online applications. 
>  Chrome, Right?  THat is what I run on my MBP with 10.6.8.
> 
> Wrong!  After I downloaded chrome, and tried to installed it, it won't 
> run.  It seems that it is not supporting intel core2 processors!  I think 
> it wants C2D.
> 
> So, still no browser.  I guess I'll check out FF, but it would not run on 
> 10.5.  At least safari 5 is accepted more places than 4.
> 
> Note to Apple, google, Mozilla:  It really sucks that I can run winders 
> (and web browsers) on 10-15 yr old machines, but I can't run a simple web 
> browser on a 7 yr old Intel Mac!
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac: Bummer

2015-11-19 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes 

what is C2D?

--R

On 11/19/15 9:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah, unfortunately the CD vs. C2D thing is what's going to push that machine 
into obsolescence.

I just bought a pristine, one owner 17" MacBook Pro that's a C2D machine. It 
will go up to 8Gb RAM for very little $$ and with an SSD to replace the rotating 
drive with be plenty fast. And this one has the BTO matte screen and dual video 
cards, too. The dual video card feature was unique to this model and went a long way 
in offloading machine cycles from the main processor.

This will free up a very nice C2D unibody 15" MacBook Pro I currently use for my 
daily home machine. It will go on CL to subsidize the purchase of the 17" MBP.

MacDan

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On Nov 18, 2015, at 10:13 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

I finally got the macbook 1,1 up to 10.6.8.  It then installed Safari 5.  All 
that works, but safari 5 is unsupported for many online applications.  Chrome, 
Right?  THat is what I run on my MBP with 10.6.8.

Wrong!  After I downloaded chrome, and tried to installed it, it won't run.  It 
seems that it is not supporting intel core2 processors!  I think it wants C2D.

So, still no browser.  I guess I'll check out FF, but it would not run on 10.5. 
 At least safari 5 is accepted more places than 4.

Note to Apple, google, Mozilla:  It really sucks that I can run winders (and 
web browsers) on 10-15 yr old machines, but I can't run a simple web browser on 
a 7 yr old Intel Mac!

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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac: Bummer

2015-11-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
Yeah, unfortunately the CD vs. C2D thing is what's going to push that machine 
into obsolescence.

I just bought a pristine, one owner 17" MacBook Pro that's a C2D machine. It 
will go up to 8Gb RAM for very little $$ and with an SSD to replace the 
rotating drive with be plenty fast. And this one has the BTO matte screen and 
dual video cards, too. The dual video card feature was unique to this model and 
went a long way in offloading machine cycles from the main processor.

This will free up a very nice C2D unibody 15" MacBook Pro I currently use for 
my daily home machine. It will go on CL to subsidize the purchase of the 17" 
MBP.

MacDan

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 18, 2015, at 10:13 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I finally got the macbook 1,1 up to 10.6.8.  It then installed Safari 5.  All 
> that works, but safari 5 is unsupported for many online applications.  
> Chrome, Right?  THat is what I run on my MBP with 10.6.8.
> 
> Wrong!  After I downloaded chrome, and tried to installed it, it won't run.  
> It seems that it is not supporting intel core2 processors!  I think it wants 
> C2D.
> 
> So, still no browser.  I guess I'll check out FF, but it would not run on 
> 10.5.  At least safari 5 is accepted more places than 4.
> 
> Note to Apple, google, Mozilla:  It really sucks that I can run winders (and 
> web browsers) on 10-15 yr old machines, but I can't run a simple web browser 
> on a 7 yr old Intel Mac!
> 
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[MBZ] OT Mac: Bummer

2015-11-18 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes 
I finally got the macbook 1,1 up to 10.6.8.  It then installed Safari 
5.  All that works, but safari 5 is unsupported for many online 
applications.  Chrome, Right?  THat is what I run on my MBP with 
10.6.8.


Wrong!  After I downloaded chrome, and tried to installed it, it 
won't run.  It seems that it is not supporting intel core2 
processors!  I think it wants C2D.


So, still no browser.  I guess I'll check out FF, but it would not 
run on 10.5.  At least safari 5 is accepted more places than 4.


Note to Apple, google, Mozilla:  It really sucks that I can run 
winders (and web browsers) on 10-15 yr old machines, but I can't run 
a simple web browser on a 7 yr old Intel Mac!


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