Re: [MBZ] On the road again] and a new issue
At 6:55 AM -0400 5/25/13, Dwight Giles wrote: Yes, Marshall used to say to check the firewall behnd the battery for rust and leaks on a 123. And DON'T forget to CHECK the FUSES! :-} -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] On the road again] and a new issue
I am a bit behind that era. My car is a 115 so the battery is up front behind the left headlight. Randy On 25/05/2013 5:55 AM, Dwight Giles wrote: Yes, Marshall used to say to check the firewall behnd the battery for rust and leaks on a 123. On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 7:31 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: From my experience, water in rear footwells usually originates from a defect in the front (ie. a leaky window seal) and flows back. Sent from my iPhone On May 23, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 22/05/2013 6:05 PM, Max wrote: Could it also be leaking at bottom corner(s) of the windshield? I think on 123 cars water entering in the front will flow to pool in the back. Yes it could and it does. I get a little water at both bottom corners of the front windshield. So, I guess I had better look at the front carpet a bit closer to see it there is evidence of water flowing through to the back seat area. Randy ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Andrew, I don't think that that is a job you will want to do yourself as it gets involved. First you have to remove the plastic pieces on the interior above the windshield and around the top of the doors and then you need to remove the headliner. This is required to replace either the front (just partial removal) or rear ( a whole lot of removal) drain lines or to repair any rust through of the sunroof frame near the drain points. I had to do that for the front drains in one of the family's cars. The sun roof itself does not need to be removed for work on the front drains but may need to be removed to get to the rear drains from the top or you may need to remove the whole frame itself to do that. I haven't been there yet as the rears don't leak...yet. If there is a lot of rust in the frame then a new one is the best way to go, unfortunately I don't think there are any 123TD frames available. I think I got the last or one of the last frames a couple of years ago. If there are any left or they made some new ones be aware they are in the $1,000 plus range! Manfred Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 12:54:19 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] On the road again] and a new issue Try blowing out the four sunroof drains. My LF sunroof drain was blocked, leading to water entering the driver's front side panel and dripping on the emergency brake pedal. Blew out the drain, which helped, but after a torrential rain, water was still getting in (windshield and all other drains are OK - I tested them). I may now have to replace the 30 year old dry rotted front s/r seal, but am at a loss as to why would this allow in more water than can be channeled away through the four s/d drains. If so, should I repalce hte side and rear drains as well? The rear drain is a real PIA, and requires R/R of the entire S/R. Anyone BTDT? Andrew 1983 300TD takes in some water 1985 300TD repainted and garaged. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] On the road again] and a new issue
Try blowing out the four sunroof drains. My LF sunroof drain was blocked, leading to water entering the driver's front side panel and dripping on the emergency brake pedal. Blew out the drain, which helped, but after a torrential rain, water was still getting in (windshield and all other drains are OK - I tested them). I may now have to replace the 30 year old dry rotted front s/r seal, but am at a loss as to why would this allow in more water than can be channeled away through the four s/d drains. If so, should I repalce hte side and rear drains as well? The rear drain is a real PIA, and requires R/R of the entire S/R. Anyone BTDT? Andrew 1983 300TD takes in some water 1985 300TD repainted and garaged. On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 7:55 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Yup, and remove the battery tray to do it; the acid rusts out the tray then goes to work on the car. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 25, 2013, at 6:55, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, Marshall used to say to check the firewall behnd the battery for rust and leaks on a 123. On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 7:31 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: From my experience, water in rear footwells usually originates from a defect in the front (ie. a leaky window seal) and flows back. Sent from my iPhone On May 23, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 22/05/2013 6:05 PM, Max wrote: Could it also be leaking at bottom corner(s) of the windshield? I think on 123 cars water entering in the front will flow to pool in the back. Yes it could and it does. I get a little water at both bottom corners of the front windshield. So, I guess I had better look at the front carpet a bit closer to see it there is evidence of water flowing through to the back seat area. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] On the road again] and a new issue
Yes, Marshall used to say to check the firewall behnd the battery for rust and leaks on a 123. On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 7:31 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: From my experience, water in rear footwells usually originates from a defect in the front (ie. a leaky window seal) and flows back. Sent from my iPhone On May 23, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 22/05/2013 6:05 PM, Max wrote: Could it also be leaking at bottom corner(s) of the windshield? I think on 123 cars water entering in the front will flow to pool in the back. Yes it could and it does. I get a little water at both bottom corners of the front windshield. So, I guess I had better look at the front carpet a bit closer to see it there is evidence of water flowing through to the back seat area. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] On the road again] and a new issue
Yup, and remove the battery tray to do it; the acid rusts out the tray then goes to work on the car. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 25, 2013, at 6:55, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, Marshall used to say to check the firewall behnd the battery for rust and leaks on a 123. On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 7:31 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: From my experience, water in rear footwells usually originates from a defect in the front (ie. a leaky window seal) and flows back. Sent from my iPhone On May 23, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 22/05/2013 6:05 PM, Max wrote: Could it also be leaking at bottom corner(s) of the windshield? I think on 123 cars water entering in the front will flow to pool in the back. Yes it could and it does. I get a little water at both bottom corners of the front windshield. So, I guess I had better look at the front carpet a bit closer to see it there is evidence of water flowing through to the back seat area. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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From my experience, water in rear footwells usually originates from a defect in the front (ie. a leaky window seal) and flows back. Sent from my iPhone On May 23, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 22/05/2013 6:05 PM, Max wrote: Could it also be leaking at bottom corner(s) of the windshield? I think on 123 cars water entering in the front will flow to pool in the back. Yes it could and it does. I get a little water at both bottom corners of the front windshield. So, I guess I had better look at the front carpet a bit closer to see it there is evidence of water flowing through to the back seat area. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Wed, 22 May 2013 21:23:55 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Rear window seal. It runs down from under the seat, it doesn't really tend to puddle up under there. The seat comes out with a few 10mm bolts holding tabs on the seat bottom. On my 115 220D/8, I could remove the seat without taking bolts out. Did they change things for the 115 300D? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] On the road again] and a new issue
Do you mean a bolt in a tab beneath bottom edge near each side/end of seat BACK - a la 123? (Accessible after seat bottom is removed.) Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] On the road again] and a new issue On Wed, 22 May 2013 21:23:55 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Rear window seal. It runs down from under the seat, it doesn't really tend to puddle up under there. The seat comes out with a few 10mm bolts holding tabs on the seat bottom. On my 115 220D/8, I could remove the seat without taking bolts out. Did they change things for the 115 300D? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] On the road again] and a new issue
On 22/05/2013 6:05 PM, Max wrote: Could it also be leaking at bottom corner(s) of the windshield? I think on 123 cars water entering in the front will flow to pool in the back. Yes it could and it does. I get a little water at both bottom corners of the front windshield. So, I guess I had better look at the front carpet a bit closer to see it there is evidence of water flowing through to the back seat area. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] On the road again] and a new issue
I noted earlier that I had driven my old 115 300D to the cottage and back on the weekend and that it rained fairly hard most of the weekend while the car sat outside in the driveway and including the whole trip back which was 3 plus hours at highway speed. I do not know if it was wet when I left - IE - if it was leaking while parked or if it is something related to the time when the car was moving. I discovered last evening that the carpet in both rear footwells is saturated with water. So, where would I look first? Could be many things I assume. Holes in the floor pan from rust? Bad door seals? etc?? I don't think the front got wet but I will re-check that this evening to be certain. Anyone know if I should remove the back seat and have a look under it too? Don't want a puddle that will contribute to rusting. And if so, how do I remove the seat? I don't think I have done that before and if I have, I don't recall what I did. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] On the road again] and a new issue
Classic indicator of a rear window seal leak. Pull the rear seat bottom and see if you can identify any water incursion through the area. 123s and 126s were prone to this sort of leak as well. Dan On May 22, 2013, at 11:49 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I noted earlier that I had driven my old 115 300D to the cottage and back on the weekend and that it rained fairly hard most of the weekend while the car sat outside in the driveway and including the whole trip back which was 3 plus hours at highway speed. I do not know if it was wet when I left - IE - if it was leaking while parked or if it is something related to the time when the car was moving. I discovered last evening that the carpet in both rear footwells is saturated with water. So, where would I look first? Could be many things I assume. Holes in the floor pan from rust? Bad door seals? etc?? I don't think the front got wet but I will re-check that this evening to be certain. Anyone know if I should remove the back seat and have a look under it too? Don't want a puddle that will contribute to rusting. And if so, how do I remove the seat? I don't think I have done that before and if I have, I don't recall what I did. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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How do I get the seat out? Randy On 22/05/2013 10:52 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Classic indicator of a rear window seal leak. Pull the rear seat bottom and see if you can identify any water incursion through the area. 123s and 126s were prone to this sort of leak as well. Dan On May 22, 2013, at 11:49 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I noted earlier that I had driven my old 115 300D to the cottage and back on the weekend and that it rained fairly hard most of the weekend while the car sat outside in the driveway and including the whole trip back which was 3 plus hours at highway speed. I do not know if it was wet when I left - IE - if it was leaking while parked or if it is something related to the time when the car was moving. I discovered last evening that the carpet in both rear footwells is saturated with water. So, where would I look first? Could be many things I assume. Holes in the floor pan from rust? Bad door seals? etc?? I don't think the front got wet but I will re-check that this evening to be certain. Anyone know if I should remove the back seat and have a look under it too? Don't want a puddle that will contribute to rusting. And if so, how do I remove the seat? I don't think I have done that before and if I have, I don't recall what I did. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] On the road again] and a new issue
It's been a while since I have pulled a rear seat on a W114/115, but if its like others of the same vintage, at the bottom leading edge on each section of the seat there is a metal tab with a red plastic cover that you press down to release it. If not, there could be a small wire U with a bolt that secures it in the same area. If you find nothing of the sort described above, just try lifting up on the leading edge. Dan Sent from my iPad On May 22, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: How do I get the seat out? Randy On 22/05/2013 10:52 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Classic indicator of a rear window seal leak. Pull the rear seat bottom and see if you can identify any water incursion through the area. 123s and 126s were prone to this sort of leak as well. Dan On May 22, 2013, at 11:49 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I noted earlier that I had driven my old 115 300D to the cottage and back on the weekend and that it rained fairly hard most of the weekend while the car sat outside in the driveway and including the whole trip back which was 3 plus hours at highway speed. I do not know if it was wet when I left - IE - if it was leaking while parked or if it is something related to the time when the car was moving. I discovered last evening that the carpet in both rear footwells is saturated with water. So, where would I look first? Could be many things I assume. Holes in the floor pan from rust? Bad door seals? etc?? I don't think the front got wet but I will re-check that this evening to be certain. Anyone know if I should remove the back seat and have a look under it too? Don't want a puddle that will contribute to rusting. And if so, how do I remove the seat? I don't think I have done that before and if I have, I don't recall what I did. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] On the road again] and a new issue
Or just push the bottom of the seat near the catch to the rear and pop it loose (might not work that way, but that is kind of a standard attaching arrangement). Usually there is a U-bolt sort of thing on the seat and a plate on the floor with a little round recess for the U-bolt thingie to fit in. --R On 5/22/13 12:41 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: It's been a while since I have pulled a rear seat on a W114/115, but if its like others of the same vintage, at the bottom leading edge on each section of the seat there is a metal tab with a red plastic cover that you press down to release it. If not, there could be a small wire U with a bolt that secures it in the same area. If you find nothing of the sort described above, just try lifting up on the leading edge. Dan Sent from my iPad On May 22, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: How do I get the seat out? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On May 22, 2013 8:52 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Classic indicator of a rear window seal leak. Pull the rear seat bottom and see if you can identify any water incursion through the area. 123s and 126s were prone to this sort of leak as well. What about 124 sedans? I have been chasing a mystery leak in my '87 for over a year. After a few days of heavy rain, sometimes the rear passenger floor gets wet and sometimes the recesses under the back seat, but always on the right side. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Could it also be leaking at bottom corner(s) of the windshield? I think on 123 cars water entering in the front will flow to pool in the back. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I noted earlier that I had driven my old 115 300D to the cottage and back on the weekend and that it rained fairly hard most of the weekend while the car sat outside in the driveway and including the whole trip back which was 3 plus hours at highway speed. I do not know if it was wet when I left - IE - if it was leaking while parked or if it is something related to the time when the car was moving. I discovered last evening that the carpet in both rear footwells is saturated with water. So, where would I look first? Could be many things I assume. Holes in the floor pan from rust? Bad door seals? etc?? I don't think the front got wet but I will re-check that this evening to be certain. Anyone know if I should remove the back seat and have a look under it too? Don't want a puddle that will contribute to rusting. And if so, how do I remove the seat? I don't think I have done that before and if I have, I don't recall what I did. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Randy, check the front vent to see if you have rust through. Other option is the windscreen. It may look really good, but this is the #1 seep area for front carpeting. I was told that the new option for the seal is that classic center send the rear seal and tells you to play with it to make it fit. I had bad leaks in Gump. Only place it could be coming in was that front glass. Old seal, so I used RTV around the glass and under the seal where I could get at it. It went from puddles, to trickle after driving all day rains. clay On May 22, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: I noted earlier that I had driven my old 115 300D to the cottage and back on the weekend and that it rained fairly hard most of the weekend while the car sat outside in the driveway and including the whole trip back which was 3 plus hours at highway speed. I do not know if it was wet when I left - IE - if it was leaking while parked or if it is something related to the time when the car was moving. I discovered last evening that the carpet in both rear footwells is saturated with water. So, where would I look first? Could be many things I assume. Holes in the floor pan from rust? Bad door seals? etc?? I don't think the front got wet but I will re-check that this evening to be certain. Anyone know if I should remove the back seat and have a look under it too? Don't want a puddle that will contribute to rusting. And if so, how do I remove the seat? I don't think I have done that before and if I have, I don't recall what I did. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] On the road again] and a new issue
Rear window seal. It runs down from under the seat, it doesn't really tend to puddle up under there. The seat comes out with a few 10mm bolts holding tabs on the seat bottom. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
