[MBZ] Optima 34 Red Top?

2006-03-03 Thread David Johnson
Dear Listers,
I forgot to turn off the headlights today for 4 hours,
and my Interstate is dead.
Is Optima 34 Red top the right choice for my 83 300DT?
Or is it the 34R or some other new option?
Thanks.
David



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Re: [MBZ] Optima 34 Red Top?

2006-03-03 Thread Jim Cathey

I forgot to turn off the headlights today for 4 hours,
and my Interstate is dead.


Does your buzzer not work?  My wife relies heavily upon ours.
Putting one into the SL (which didn't have one) was _way_
cheaper and less PITA than even one dead battery incident.
And there would have been many more than one!

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Optima 34 Red Top?

2006-03-03 Thread David Johnson
Jim,
There's no buzzer here.  The only time I heard a
buzzer was for the seatbelt, and that one came on only
once during the last 2 years. 
How would I intstall the buzzer for the headlight? 
Any part number for Rusty?
Thanks.
David
83 300DT.

--- Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Does your buzzer not work?  My wife relies heavily
> upon ours.
> Putting one into the SL (

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Re: [MBZ] Optima 34 Red Top?

2006-03-03 Thread Jim Cathey

There's no buzzer here.  The only time I heard a
buzzer was for the seatbelt, and that one came on only
once during the last 2 years.


Don't you have a key-in buzzer?


How would I intstall the buzzer for the headlight?
Any part number for Rusty?


Oh, if only it were that easy.  When they put that
in factory I think it accompanied a change from positive
to negative ground door switches.  Not a trivial change,
in other words.  I flanged in a small 12V relay powered
by the parking light circuit that is in-line with the
key-in switch.  It fakes key-in when the lights are
on.  But a detailed examination of your car's schematic
would show what was necessary.  One ruined battery saved
certainly would pay for the effort, IMHO.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Optima 34 Red Top?

2006-03-03 Thread David Johnson


--- Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Don't you have a key-in buzzer?

Nope.  A very silent car. all around!


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Re: [MBZ] Optima 34 Red Top?

2006-03-03 Thread Jim Cathey

Don't you have a key-in buzzer?


Nope.  A very silent car. all around!


Then yours is broken, and maybe that's all that's wrong?
Does your door have one switch in the frame, or two?
The buzzer should go if the door is opened and the key
is off but hasn't yet been removed (activating the
steering lock).

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Optima 34 Red Top?

2006-03-03 Thread David Johnson
--- Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does your door have one switch in the frame, or two?
Only one that I can see.
David

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Re: [MBZ] Optima 34 Red Top?/Lights left on Buzzer

2006-03-03 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 3/2/2006 9:12:05 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Nope.  A very silent car. all around


No buzzer when key left in lock, or lights left on, usually means the time  
delay  that turns the front interior light on and off has also  failed.  To 
confirm, does the front interior light come on when the  driver's door is 
opened? 
 And it should stay on after the driver's door is  closed for a preset time 
delay.
 
NOTE:  The passenger front door switch operates the front interior  light 
directly without the combination time delay relay/buzzer.
 
The circuit already exists to warn of key in or lights left on.  You  need to 
fix it.
 
Regards,  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 262 K miles 
98 ML 320, 140 K  miles



Re: [MBZ] Optima 34 Red Top?/Lights left on Buzzer

2006-03-03 Thread andrew strasfogel
Not true!  My courtesy light time delay (1983 300TD) works perfectly but the
seat belt buzzer warning is kaput.  Fortunately, the headlamp warning buzzer
still works and has saved my b*tt on a number of occasions...  Any advice?

On 3/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 3/2/2006 9:12:05 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> Nope.  A very silent car. all around
>
>
> No buzzer when key left in lock, or lights left on, usually means the time
> delay  that turns the front interior light on and off has
> also  failed.  To
> confirm, does the front interior light come on when the  driver's door is
> opened?
> And it should stay on after the driver's door is  closed for a preset time
> delay.
>
> NOTE:  The passenger front door switch operates the front interior  light
> directly without the combination time delay relay/buzzer.
>
> The circuit already exists to warn of key in or lights left on.  You  need
> to
> fix it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim  Friesen
> Phoenix AZ
> 79 300SD, 262 K miles
> 98 ML 320, 140 K  miles
>
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Re: [MBZ] Optima 34 Red Top?/Lights left on Buzzer

2006-03-03 Thread Jim Cathey
Not true!  My courtesy light time delay (1983 300TD) works perfectly 
but the
seat belt buzzer warning is kaput.  Fortunately, the headlamp warning 
buzzer
still works and has saved my b*tt on a number of occasions...  Any 
advice?


Umm, rejoice that yours is working right?  What advice?

For general information, on many cars the left and right door
switches are isolated by a diode so that the left and right
floor courtesy lights may be separated.  (One of the nice
little touches.)  This diode resides inside the warning module,
which is really just a miscellaneous collection of semi-related
electronics, and whose existence explains why there are sometimes
odd interactions.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Optima 34 Red Top?/Lights left on Buzzer

2006-03-03 Thread andrew strasfogel
How do I fix the seat belt buzzer so it works again (yes, I am THAT anal).

On 3/3/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Not true!  My courtesy light time delay (1983 300TD) works perfectly
> > but the
> > seat belt buzzer warning is kaput.  Fortunately, the headlamp warning
> > buzzer
> > still works and has saved my b*tt on a number of occasions...  Any
> > advice?
>
> Umm, rejoice that yours is working right?  What advice?
>
> For general information, on many cars the left and right door
> switches are isolated by a diode so that the left and right
> floor courtesy lights may be separated.  (One of the nice
> little touches.)  This diode resides inside the warning module,
> which is really just a miscellaneous collection of semi-related
> electronics, and whose existence explains why there are sometimes
> odd interactions.
>
> -- Jim
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Optima 34 Red Top?/Lights left on Buzzer

2006-03-03 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 3/3/2006 9:33:46 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

How do I  fix the seat belt buzzer so it works again (yes, I am THAT  anal).




the PO probably unplugged the connector under the seat that goes to the  
female seat belt socket.  Otherwise your relay is good.  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 262 K miles 
98 ML 320, 140 K  miles



Re: [MBZ] Optima 34 Red Top?/Lights left on Buzzer

2006-03-03 Thread Jim Cathey
How do I fix the seat belt buzzer so it works again (yes, I am THAT 
anal).


If it's not unplugged under the seat you'll just have to chase
the wiring to find out what has been done to it.  I really don't
know why you'd want it, belting up is such a habit for most that
a fly in your ear makes no difference.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Optima 34 Red Top?/Lights left on Buzzer

2006-03-04 Thread David Johnson
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> No buzzer when key left in lock, or lights left on,
> usually means the time  
> delay  that turns the front interior light on and
> off has also  failed.  To 
> confirm, does the front interior light come on when
> the  driver's door is opened? 
>  And it should stay on after the driver's door is 
> closed for a preset time 
> delay.
Hi Jim,
The fron interior light does come on when doors are
opened, and will turn itself off after 10 sec.
David

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