Re: [MBZ] Pickup trucks. was: cars
Frod, home of the wussywagen. The author is right, except it should also have a rack in the back of the cab with at least one lever action and an 03a3 hanging. Transmission should be a truck ( floor shift) 4 or 5 speed. archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: Someone on another list wrote the following: "Ford just announced that the F150 pickup truck is no longer available with a manual transmission. Pickups should have manual transmissions with a compound low gear, a full-sized bed, a bench seat, and no back seats. Yes, and no electric windows oe expensive sound systems. These sissy wagons that storebought cowboys drive these days are not pickups. You can’t even buy a real pickup truck anymore." I'm wondering what the members of this list think about this rant? Gerry...who doesn't own a pickup. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pickup trucks. was: cars
And only with the Cummins diesel. It's de-tuned around 100hp with the manual. Apparently too many hoons burn the clutch out doing burnouts... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 12:41 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: I'm told that only Dodge offers a manual transmission at this time. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pickup trucks. was: cars
I'm told that only Dodge offers a manual transmission at this time. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You should have opted for the bed liner. RB On 25/06/2018 4:09 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: No, Ugly Boy truck! We scratched the paint in the bed the third day we owned it, no problem. The guys loading the air compressor apologized profusely, I kept telling them that it's a truck . . . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pickup trucks. was: cars
No, Ugly Boy truck! We scratched the paint in the bed the third day we owned it, no problem. The guys loading the air compressor apologized profusely, I kept telling them that it's a truck . . . On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 25/06/2018 2:26 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > >> When I bought our F150 I wanted a work truck and told the dealer that was >> what I wanted. Basic, long bed, seats for two only. I did get electric >> windows because it is too wide to reach over and wind up the passenger >> window when that summer thunder storm sneaks up on you. We had to special >> order it - not one in the surrounding area. The sales manager said that >> they only stock "pretty boy trucks". I thought that was a very good >> description. >> >> > So, you got a Homely Boy truck? > > RB > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pickup trucks. was: cars
Offroad I like an auto, hunting season we do a bunch of creeping around in the woods, a manual isn't bad if you've got the gearing right and have a gear that idles at about 2mph but an auto sure is handy. My '88 S15 with the anemic 2.8l v6 had a 5spd but that was the last manual truck I had. My Dakota lasted 222,000 miles with its original transmission which was badly abused. I once towed my 1928 Farmall Regular about 300 miles with it. On a 1000# trailer I was right at the limit for what my truck could handle... -Curt On Monday, June 25, 2018, 4:22:18 PM EDT, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote: My '97 F250 HD powerchoke crew cab does have a manny tranny, but violates the other "rules". The bed is only 6 1/2', and it has power windows. But it is one tough SOB. Power windows make more sense, and truth to tell an auto trans would have been a lot better when I was having trouble with my knees. I think P/U ATs are fine these days. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of archer75--- via Mercedes Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 10:34 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: arche...@embarqmail.com Subject: [MBZ] Pickup trucks. was: cars Someone on another list wrote the following: "Ford just announced that the F150 pickup truck is no longer available with a manual transmission. Pickups should have manual transmissions with a compound low gear, a full-sized bed, a bench seat, and no back seats. Yes, and no electric windows oe expensive sound systems. These sissy wagons that storebought cowboys drive these days are not pickups. You can’t even buy a real pickup truck anymore." I'm wondering what the members of this list think about this rant? Gerry...who doesn't own a pickup. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pickup trucks. was: cars
My '97 F250 HD powerchoke crew cab does have a manny tranny, but violates the other "rules". The bed is only 6 1/2', and it has power windows. But it is one tough SOB. Power windows make more sense, and truth to tell an auto trans would have been a lot better when I was having trouble with my knees. I think P/U ATs are fine these days. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of archer75--- via Mercedes Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 10:34 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: arche...@embarqmail.com Subject: [MBZ] Pickup trucks. was: cars Someone on another list wrote the following: "Ford just announced that the F150 pickup truck is no longer available with a manual transmission. Pickups should have manual transmissions with a compound low gear, a full-sized bed, a bench seat, and no back seats. Yes, and no electric windows oe expensive sound systems. These sissy wagons that storebought cowboys drive these days are not pickups. You can’t even buy a real pickup truck anymore." I'm wondering what the members of this list think about this rant? Gerry...who doesn't own a pickup. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pickup trucks. was: cars
> archer75--- wrote: > Pickups should have manual transmissions with a compound low > gear, a full-sized bed, a bench seat, and no back seats. Yes, > and no electric windows oe expensive sound systems. These sissy > wagons that storebought cowboys drive these days are not > pickups. You can’t even buy a real pickup truck anymore." > > I'm wondering what the members of this list think about this > rant? I would add "if you are worried about scratching the paint, it's not a "real" pickup. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pickup trucks. was: cars
Poorboy? Theres a style of flintlock rifle called a poorboy. -Curt On Monday, June 25, 2018, 3:31:17 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 25/06/2018 2:26 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > When I bought our F150 I wanted a work truck and told the dealer that was > what I wanted. Basic, long bed, seats for two only. I did get electric > windows because it is too wide to reach over and wind up the passenger > window when that summer thunder storm sneaks up on you. We had to special > order it - not one in the surrounding area. The sales manager said that > they only stock "pretty boy trucks". I thought that was a very good > description. > So, you got a Homely Boy truck? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pickup trucks. was: cars
On 25/06/2018 2:26 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: When I bought our F150 I wanted a work truck and told the dealer that was what I wanted. Basic, long bed, seats for two only. I did get electric windows because it is too wide to reach over and wind up the passenger window when that summer thunder storm sneaks up on you. We had to special order it - not one in the surrounding area. The sales manager said that they only stock "pretty boy trucks". I thought that was a very good description. So, you got a Homely Boy truck? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pickup trucks. was: cars
When I bought our F150 I wanted a work truck and told the dealer that was what I wanted. Basic, long bed, seats for two only. I did get electric windows because it is too wide to reach over and wind up the passenger window when that summer thunder storm sneaks up on you. We had to special order it - not one in the surrounding area. The sales manager said that they only stock "pretty boy trucks". I thought that was a very good description. On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Nobody buys a work truck anymore. Toyota quit offering a single cab a > year or two ago, no demand. > Sometimes I wonder if demand drives the market or if people buy what > they're told to. When we bought our last truck I wanted single cab, put a > cap on the back, save $5,000. Angie talked me into extended cab and I have > to admit I'm glad... > -Curt > > On Monday, June 25, 2018, 2:14:15 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > All that stuff should be optional. > Or have a standard passenger truck, as long as you also offer a 'work > truck' with bench seat, rubber floor, six cylinders and manual > transmission. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pickup trucks. was: cars
I am on my 2nd Ford F150 Supercrew. A great truck for my needs. It hauls people and goods and tows too. Box could be bigger but then it would be harder to park etc. Works well for us as we do long highway trips to the lake from the city. We take all sorts of stuff along and bring much of it back (tools etc). It rides nice, is quiet, gets reasonable mileage etc. Essentially a big 4 door sedan with a huge trunk. RB On 25/06/2018 12:34 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: Someone on another list wrote the following: "Ford just announced that the F150 pickup truck is no longer available with a manual transmission. Pickups should have manual transmissions with a compound low gear, a full-sized bed, a bench seat, and no back seats. Yes, and no electric windows oe expensive sound systems. These sissy wagons that storebought cowboys drive these days are not pickups. You can’t even buy a real pickup truck anymore." I'm wondering what the members of this list think about this rant? Gerry...who doesn't own a pickup. --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pickup trucks. was: cars
Nobody buys a work truck anymore. Toyota quit offering a single cab a year or two ago, no demand. Sometimes I wonder if demand drives the market or if people buy what they're told to. When we bought our last truck I wanted single cab, put a cap on the back, save $5,000. Angie talked me into extended cab and I have to admit I'm glad... -Curt On Monday, June 25, 2018, 2:14:15 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: All that stuff should be optional. Or have a standard passenger truck, as long as you also offer a 'work truck' with bench seat, rubber floor, six cylinders and manual transmission. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pickup trucks. was: cars
Its from somebody who hasn't driven a modern pickup. Angie and I were at a local used car lot the other day that specializes in old trucks. He had a pre-'73 Chevy a pre-'87 Chevy, a pair of '60s Fords and a square body Dodge. All fun trucks to look at but as I told Angie I wouldn't want to drive one from here to camp. My '10 Dodge RAM 1500 will out work those trucks, it'll tow more weight, I can put more in the bed and it'll do it faster with more control while using less fuel and requiring FAR less maintenance. I can fit 6 people in my truck with seat belts and still have storage for tow straps and such under the rear seat. I've got satellite radio which is great for long trips and when I arrive I feel fine unlike the bone shaking you'd take from a leaf spring truck of yesteryear. Then theres the traction control which makes it better offroad and before you say anything my truck has spent a BUNCH of time offroad, we've taken it through some wicked mud holes. Its hauled more cord wood than I can remember, brought home my loader, too Dimitri's 240D to Maine, hauled my Jetta and Angie's Golf home, hauled snowmobiles around, jump started the snowmobile club's tractor and more besides. Its worked hard and never given me any trouble to speak of. Right around 125,000 miles on it now and its just getting broken in. Are the old trucks cool? You betcha and I'd like to have one to play with but for a WORK truck, especially if you have a crew working a modern truck has it all over those old beasts... -Curt On Monday, June 25, 2018, 1:34:36 PM EDT, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: Someone on another list wrote the following: "Ford just announced that the F150 pickup truck is no longer available with a manual transmission. Pickups should have manual transmissions with a compound low gear, a full-sized bed, a bench seat, and no back seats. Yes, and no electric windows oe expensive sound systems. These sissy wagons that storebought cowboys drive these days are not pickups. You can’t even buy a real pickup truck anymore." I'm wondering what the members of this list think about this rant? Gerry...who doesn't own a pickup. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pickup trucks. was: cars
All that stuff should be optional. Or have a standard passenger truck, as long as you also offer a 'work truck' with bench seat, rubber floor, six cylinders and manual transmission. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pickup trucks. was: cars
In Texas, they have a phrase: "All hat and no horse" Which means... city boy pickup truck owner has no "manly substance"... On the other hand... if you are a real Rodeo Cowboy... automatic is nice to drive with the broken leg you got from bull riding.. On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 10:39 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Say on brother. My 48 Dodge and 50 Dodge half tons didn't have any of those > things. My 50 Dodge did have fluid drive though. Rare for a pickup but my > uncle ordered that way. I just sold it in 2000. Sorry I did. > > Dwight E. Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 1:34 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Someone on another list wrote the following: > > > > "Ford just announced that the F150 pickup truck is no longer available > > with a manual transmission. Pickups should have manual transmissions > with > > a compound low gear, a full-sized bed, a bench seat, and no back seats. > > Yes, and no electric windows oe expensive sound systems. These sissy > > wagons that storebought cowboys drive these days are not pickups. You > > can’t even buy a real pickup truck anymore." > > > > I'm wondering what the members of this list think about this rant? > > Gerry...who doesn't own a pickup. > > > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > > https://www.avg.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pickup trucks. was: cars
Say on brother. My 48 Dodge and 50 Dodge half tons didn't have any of those things. My 50 Dodge did have fluid drive though. Rare for a pickup but my uncle ordered that way. I just sold it in 2000. Sorry I did. Dwight E. Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 1:34 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Someone on another list wrote the following: > > "Ford just announced that the F150 pickup truck is no longer available > with a manual transmission. Pickups should have manual transmissions with > a compound low gear, a full-sized bed, a bench seat, and no back seats. > Yes, and no electric windows oe expensive sound systems. These sissy > wagons that storebought cowboys drive these days are not pickups. You > can’t even buy a real pickup truck anymore." > > I'm wondering what the members of this list think about this rant? > Gerry...who doesn't own a pickup. > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Pickup trucks. was: cars
Someone on another list wrote the following: "Ford just announced that the F150 pickup truck is no longer available with a manual transmission. Pickups should have manual transmissions with a compound low gear, a full-sized bed, a bench seat, and no back seats. Yes, and no electric windows oe expensive sound systems. These sissy wagons that storebought cowboys drive these days are not pickups. You can’t even buy a real pickup truck anymore." I'm wondering what the members of this list think about this rant? Gerry...who doesn't own a pickup. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
