Re: [MBZ] Re: Transmission gear oil (was) 240D Manual Gearbox Fluid

2005-07-18 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 17:46:03 -0400 Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 The reason to use ATF in Mercedes manual transmissions is because of the
 transmission materials. The phosphorus additives in EP gear oil make 
 the oil acidic and quite chemically aggressive to the synchro materials 
 that MB use. EP oils will DAMAGE and eventually destroy an MB manual 
 transmission. ATF-type oils, on the other hand, use zinc-based anti-wear
 additives which are far more chemically inert toward non-ferrous metals.

In my posting of a couple of days ago, I said to NOT use gear oil, but
instead ATF. I also said that Marshall would have the exact explanation
why (which I couldn't remember). This is the exact explanation.


Craig



Re: [MBZ] Re: Transmission gear oil (was) 240D Manual Gearbox Fluid

2005-07-18 Thread Loren Faeth
ATF also makes for MUCH MUCH MUCH better shifting in below 0 conditions, 
when 90EP is as stiff as sorghum at below 0.  Never worked for crap in 
Detroit iron manual transmissions, junky as they were.


At 04:46 PM 7/17/2005, you wrote:
The reason to use ATF in Mercedes manual transmissions is because of 
the  transmission materials. The phosphorus additives in EP gear oil make 
the oil acidic and quite chemically aggressive to the synchro materials 
that MB use. EP oils will DAMAGE and eventually destroy an MB manual 
transmission. ATF-type oils, on the other hand, use zinc-based anti-wear 
additives which are far more chemically inert toward non-ferrous metals.


Marshall
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'87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 
159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

  Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection
http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm


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Re: [MBZ] Re: Transmission gear oil (was) 240D Manual Gearbox Fluid

2005-07-17 Thread Marshall Booth
The reason to use ATF in Mercedes manual transmissions is because of the 
 transmission materials. The phosphorus additives in EP gear oil make 
the oil acidic and quite chemically aggressive to the synchro materials 
that MB use. EP oils will DAMAGE and eventually destroy an MB manual 
transmission. ATF-type oils, on the other hand, use zinc-based anti-wear 
additives which are far more chemically inert toward non-ferrous metals.


Marshall
--
  Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
  der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 
159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

  Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection
http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm