Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
Came with the head. I tested each with an 30-0-30 ameter, and all acted like normal. I will check again now that it's a year later... Luther Peter Frederick wrote: How old are the glow plugs? peter On Dec 15, 2008, at 6:34 PM, Luther wrote: There was a dose of Power Service added to this full tank of fuel that was purchased last week. Also, even when the temp is warm (i.e. 60 or higher) and it's a cold start, it will blow some white smoke for about 10 seconds Luther -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
Normal? NO, not when the 2 other OM617 engines ('83SD '82CD) do not have
any sluggish issues when colder, even below 0F.
Luther
TE wrote:
Dude, this is normal. My SDL would run rough for the first minute or two.
Taking off with a cold engine was a trip... pegged to the floor, slow as
hell. It smoked, it rattled, it was slow... Don't let these fools tell you
that you need this and that, it's either 21 or 22 years old, cut it some
slack.
As long as there is there is no sluggishness or excessive smoke at idle when
up to operating temp, then you have a perfectly sound SDL.
I could be wrong, you may want to CHECK YOUR FUSES!
te
--
Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark
'87 300SDL (281,xxx mi)
'85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast
'82 300CD (183 kmi)
'82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold
'85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion
___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com
To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
The 300E fired right up this morning in 10F temps. Started yesterday at -2F. But that is why it is my winter car! On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 6:38 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Well the 190D fired right up after less than 10 seconds of glow this morning, ran smooth as silk right off the bat, had normal power. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081216/8e52b71b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
TE wrote: People that think a 22 year old diesel engine will just crank right up, not smoke, run smooth after sitting in 20 degree weather all night are smoking crack. What about a 19 year old diesel. I bet OK Don's 300D 2.5 starts right up in 20 degree weather, runs smooth and has all of its power after idling no more than 10-20 seconds. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081216/33b81dbb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
Well the 190D fired right up after less than 10 seconds of glow this morning, ran smooth as silk right off the bat, had normal power. Luther wrote: Thanks, but how does that help me? :) Luther -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
Well the 190D fired right up after less than 10 seconds of glow this
morning, ran smooth as silk right off the bat, had normal power.
Luther wrote:
Thanks, but how does that help me? :)
Luther
My past 2 diesel projects ('85 300SD, 91 300D) started fine down to 9
degrees F without using the block heaters. This with good glow plugs on all
and a valve adjustment on the SD; both were on dino oil.
Tony Wirtel
No diesels this year
-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL:
http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081216/eeb5ef17/attachment.html
___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com
To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
Wonko the Sane wrote: The 300E fired right up this morning in 10F temps. Started yesterday at -2F. But that is why it is my winter car! So the 300E isn't Debbie's? Still going to replace the Buick? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
Debbie will probably steal but 300E during the warmer months, when I am driving the 240D. Last time she drove the 300E any distance, it was on snow/ice with the old Michelin tires on it. She mentioned that she preferred her front wheel drive Buick (Regatta 2 tires) to the 300E in winter conditions. Just went home for lunch (we have a couple inches of snow and it is still coming down hard) and I commented to her that with the new Assurance Triple Tred tires on the car, I didn't even notice that the road was slick -- car acted like I was on dry pavement. [Wrong thing to say -- I might be driving the Buick sooner than I had anticipated.] On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:36 PM, John Robbins je...@msstate.edu wrote: Wonko the Sane wrote: The 300E fired right up this morning in 10F temps. Started yesterday at -2F. But that is why it is my winter car! So the 300E isn't Debbie's? Still going to replace the Buick? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081216/113302ed/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
We never learn. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts Debbie will probably steal but 300E during the warmer months, when I am driving the 240D. Last time she drove the 300E any distance, it was on snow/ice with the old Michelin tires on it. She mentioned that she preferred her front wheel drive Buick (Regatta 2 tires) to the 300E in winter conditions. Just went home for lunch (we have a couple inches of snow and it is still coming down hard) and I commented to her that with the new Assurance Triple Tred tires on the car, I didn't even notice that the road was slick -- car acted like I was on dry pavement. [Wrong thing to say -- I might be driving the Buick sooner than I had anticipated.] On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:36 PM, John Robbins je...@msstate.edu wrote: Wonko the Sane wrote: The 300E fired right up this morning in 10F temps. Started yesterday at -2F. But that is why it is my winter car! So the 300E isn't Debbie's? Still going to replace the Buick? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081216/11 3302ed/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
Indeed it did this AM at 18F. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: TE wrote: People that think a 22 year old diesel engine will just crank right up, not smoke, run smooth after sitting in 20 degree weather all night are smoking crack. What about a 19 year old diesel. I bet OK Don's 300D 2.5 starts right up in 20 degree weather, runs smooth and has all of its power after idling no more than 10-20 seconds. Donald H. Snook -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
I started the 240D yesterday evening -- not sure what the garage temp was, but it was around -7 outside and the car hadn't been started in several weeks. I did have a BatteryTender plugged in the entire time, which might have kept the battery warm. But I did three preglows and the car cranked right over. Move the 240D out into the weather so the daughter (home for Christmas break) could put her car into the garage. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:18 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed it did this AM at 18F. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: TE wrote: People that think a 22 year old diesel engine will just crank right up, not smoke, run smooth after sitting in 20 degree weather all night are smoking crack. What about a 19 year old diesel. I bet OK Don's 300D 2.5 starts right up in 20 degree weather, runs smooth and has all of its power after idling no more than 10-20 seconds. Donald H. Snook -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081216/ca75b27e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
This morning was the coldest so far that I have started the SDL at about 20F. I have to glow for about 20-30 seconds to get a smooth idle (no missing) right after start. Once the oil pressure pegs out, I put the car in gear and go. But go is really creeping forward at an idle with the throttle to the floor. After about 20-30 seconds of this, it will suddenly have normal SDL acceleration. What is the issue here? TIA all, -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
Seems like I heard that 20F is when diesel begins to gell. May depend on winter or summer fuel. Harry This morning was the coldest so far that I have started the SDL at about 20F. I have to glow for about 20-30 seconds to get a smooth idle (no missing) right after start. Once the oil pressure pegs out, I put the car in gear and go. But go is really creeping forward at an idle with the throttle to the floor. After about 20-30 seconds of this, it will suddenly have normal SDL acceleration. What is the issue here? TIA all, -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
That's not the issue here. If it were gelled fuel, the problem would not go away so quickly after such a short time. I'm wondering if this is more like delivery valve seals harry watkins wrote: Seems like I heard that 20F is when diesel begins to gell. May depend on winter or summer fuel. Harry This morning was the coldest so far that I have started the SDL at about 20F. I have to glow for about 20-30 seconds to get a smooth idle (no missing) right after start. Once the oil pressure pegs out, I put the car in gear and go. But go is really creeping forward at an idle with the throttle to the floor. After about 20-30 seconds of this, it will suddenly have normal SDL acceleration. What is the issue here? TIA all, -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
Need to get some heat in the head to make it go Bang. My PowerChoke is 10 times worse that my SDL was. At 0° it takes it 2 minutes to calm down. Pete -- Original message -- From: Luther benz-n-h...@gulseth.net This morning was the coldest so far that I have started the SDL at about 20F. I have to glow for about 20-30 seconds to get a smooth idle (no missing) right after start. Once the oil pressure pegs out, I put the car in gear and go. But go is really creeping forward at an idle with the throttle to the floor. After about 20-30 seconds of this, it will suddenly have normal SDL acceleration. What is the issue here? TIA all, -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
My 140 SD fired right up this morning at 16 degrees with about 10 seconds of glow. Luther wrote: This morning was the coldest so far that I have started the SDL at about 20F. I have to glow for about 20-30 seconds to get a smooth idle (no missing) right after start. Once the oil pressure pegs out, I put the car in gear and go. But go is really creeping forward at an idle with the throttle to the floor. After about 20-30 seconds of this, it will suddenly have normal SDL acceleration. What is the issue here? TIA all, -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1849 - Release Date: 12/15/2008 9:01 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
Thanks, but how does that help me? :) Luther Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: My 140 SD fired right up this morning at 16 degrees with about 10 seconds of glow. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
Ten seconds or so after the GP lamp goes out works pretty well for me. Note that 30 sec is pretty short for pre-glow time at 20 F, certainly it's a minute or so a 0F. Severe lack of performance cold (unless you have huge clouds of white smoke) indicates a fuel delivery problem -- time for new filters are a shot of RedLine in the fuel, I think. Also make sure you have winterized fuel in there --- I've seen #2 that was solid at 20F. Peter On Dec 15, 2008, at 9:23 AM, Luther wrote: This morning was the coldest so far that I have started the SDL at about 20F. I have to glow for about 20-30 seconds to get a smooth idle (no missing) right after start. Once the oil pressure pegs out, I put the car in gear and go. But go is really creeping forward at an idle with the throttle to the floor. After about 20-30 seconds of this, it will suddenly have normal SDL acceleration. What is the issue here? TIA all, -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
There was a dose of Power Service added to this full tank of fuel that was purchased last week. Also, even when the temp is warm (i.e. 60 or higher) and it's a cold start, it will blow some white smoke for about 10 seconds Luther Peter Frederick wrote: Ten seconds or so after the GP lamp goes out works pretty well for me. Note that 30 sec is pretty short for pre-glow time at 20 F, certainly it's a minute or so a 0F. Severe lack of performance cold (unless you have huge clouds of white smoke) indicates a fuel delivery problem -- time for new filters are a shot of RedLine in the fuel, I think. Also make sure you have winterized fuel in there --- I've seen #2 that was solid at 20F. Peter On Dec 15, 2008, at 9:23 AM, Luther wrote: This morning was the coldest so far that I have started the SDL at about 20F. I have to glow for about 20-30 seconds to get a smooth idle (no missing) right after start. Once the oil pressure pegs out, I put the car in gear and go. But go is really creeping forward at an idle with the throttle to the floor. After about 20-30 seconds of this, it will suddenly have normal SDL acceleration. What is the issue here? TIA all, -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
How old are the glow plugs? peter On Dec 15, 2008, at 6:34 PM, Luther wrote: There was a dose of Power Service added to this full tank of fuel that was purchased last week. Also, even when the temp is warm (i.e. 60 or higher) and it's a cold start, it will blow some white smoke for about 10 seconds Luther Peter Frederick wrote: Ten seconds or so after the GP lamp goes out works pretty well for me. Note that 30 sec is pretty short for pre-glow time at 20 F, certainly it's a minute or so a 0F. Severe lack of performance cold (unless you have huge clouds of white smoke) indicates a fuel delivery problem -- time for new filters are a shot of RedLine in the fuel, I think. Also make sure you have winterized fuel in there --- I've seen #2 that was solid at 20F. Peter On Dec 15, 2008, at 9:23 AM, Luther wrote: This morning was the coldest so far that I have started the SDL at about 20F. I have to glow for about 20-30 seconds to get a smooth idle (no missing) right after start. Once the oil pressure pegs out, I put the car in gear and go. But go is really creeping forward at an idle with the throttle to the floor. After about 20-30 seconds of this, it will suddenly have normal SDL acceleration. What is the issue here? TIA all, -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
It should start right up at 20F - mine did (and the 602 did just fine this AM at 16F). I'd look for a bad glow plug or two, check that the pressure line to the ALDA is not clogged, or nearly so. If the ALDA needs adjusting, I'd think it would be not much different cold or warm -again, my SDL was until I adjusted the ALDA. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
I haven't read the other replies but here's my take on it. That is normal for a diesel in cold weather, at least for my 240D. Until it warms up just a bit, it is even more slow that one would anticipate. Painfully slow. Pedal to the floor and go 10 mph. But, after about 90 seconds or so, things get a bit (in 240D terms) more rapid. On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Luther benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: This morning was the coldest so far that I have started the SDL at about 20F. I have to glow for about 20-30 seconds to get a smooth idle (no missing) right after start. Once the oil pressure pegs out, I put the car in gear and go. But go is really creeping forward at an idle with the throttle to the floor. After about 20-30 seconds of this, it will suddenly have normal SDL acceleration. What is the issue here? TIA all, -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
It doesnt. At about 4:30 in the morning I have to go out and start the 190D. It has not been started since friday. I have not tried to start it yet in temps anywhere near as cold as it is right now. Will report how it does. It will not be plugged in. It also has regular 15w40 dino oil in it, as does the 140 diesel. Luther wrote: Thanks, but how does that help me? :) Luther Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: My 140 SD fired right up this morning at 16 degrees with about 10 seconds of glow. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1850 - Release Date: 12/15/2008 5:04 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
True - for 61x engine, not so for a 60x engine with Mobil 1 and good glow plugs, at least in my experience. On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't read the other replies but here's my take on it. That is normal for a diesel in cold weather, at least for my 240D. Until it warms up just a bit, it is even more slow that one would anticipate. Painfully slow. Pedal to the floor and go 10 mph. But, after about 90 seconds or so, things get a bit (in 240D terms) more rapid. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
Dude, this is normal. My SDL would run rough for the first minute or two. Taking off with a cold engine was a trip... pegged to the floor, slow as hell. It smoked, it rattled, it was slow... Don't let these fools tell you that you need this and that, it's either 21 or 22 years old, cut it some slack. As long as there is there is no sluggishness or excessive smoke at idle when up to operating temp, then you have a perfectly sound SDL. I could be wrong, you may want to CHECK YOUR FUSES! te -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 9:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts True - for 61x engine, not so for a 60x engine with Mobil 1 and good glow plugs, at least in my experience. On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't read the other replies but here's my take on it. That is normal for a diesel in cold weather, at least for my 240D. Until it warms up just a bit, it is even more slow that one would anticipate. Painfully slow. Pedal to the floor and go 10 mph. But, after about 90 seconds or so, things get a bit (in 240D terms) more rapid. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
just because your SDL also did that does not mean its right. A 60x should start right up down to at least 0 even with dino oil in it. TE wrote: Dude, this is normal. My SDL would run rough for the first minute or two. Taking off with a cold engine was a trip... pegged to the floor, slow as hell. It smoked, it rattled, it was slow... Don't let these fools tell you that you need this and that, it's either 21 or 22 years old, cut it some slack. As long as there is there is no sluggishness or excessive smoke at idle when up to operating temp, then you have a perfectly sound SDL. I could be wrong, you may want to CHECK YOUR FUSES! te -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
The SDL that I drove for four years stopped doing that once I got it sorted out --- I did replace ALL the FUSES though ;-) On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:43 PM, TE ban...@carolina.rr.com wrote: Dude, this is normal. My SDL would run rough for the first minute or two. Taking off with a cold engine was a trip... pegged to the floor, slow as hell. It smoked, it rattled, it was slow... Don't let these fools tell you that you need this and that, it's either 21 or 22 years old, cut it some slack. As long as there is there is no sluggishness or excessive smoke at idle when up to operating temp, then you have a perfectly sound SDL. I could be wrong, you may want to CHECK YOUR FUSES! te -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
I'm not saying it was perfect, but its still running somewhere outside of Atlanta with over 260k on it. People that think a 22 year old diesel engine will just crank right up, not smoke, run smooth after sitting in 20 degree weather all night are smoking crack. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 9:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts just because your SDL also did that does not mean its right. A 60x should start right up down to at least 0 even with dino oil in it. TE wrote: Dude, this is normal. My SDL would run rough for the first minute or two. Taking off with a cold engine was a trip... pegged to the floor, slow as hell. It smoked, it rattled, it was slow... Don't let these fools tell you that you need this and that, it's either 21 or 22 years old, cut it some slack. As long as there is there is no sluggishness or excessive smoke at idle when up to operating temp, then you have a perfectly sound SDL. I could be wrong, you may want to CHECK YOUR FUSES! te -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
It will once its sorted out, unless its worn out. I have not smoked any crack lately. TE wrote: I'm not saying it was perfect, but its still running somewhere outside of Atlanta with over 260k on it. People that think a 22 year old diesel engine will just crank right up, not smoke, run smooth after sitting in 20 degree weather all night are smoking crack. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes: just because your SDL also did that does not mean its right. A 60x should start right up down to at least 0 even with dino oil in it. My OM617 laughs at 20 degrees, and it's not sluggish either. I don't even worry about the block heater unless its down into the low teens or lower. M1 15w50 Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: A 60x should start right up down to at least 0 even with dino oil in it. Mine started today at 15 degrees or so with dino in it, even though I was stupid and forgot the procedure---tried to crank it in short burts instead of flooring the accelerator and cranking until it fires---have developed bad habits lately from driving too many gassers! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
Well those uppers at the gas station on your long 140 journey count too you know. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 9:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts It will once its sorted out, unless its worn out. I have not smoked any crack lately. TE wrote: I'm not saying it was perfect, but its still running somewhere outside of Atlanta with over 260k on it. People that think a 22 year old diesel engine will just crank right up, not smoke, run smooth after sitting in 20 degree weather all night are smoking crack. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
The biggest part of that (sorting out) is to put in the afterglow kit, or snip the purple wire, or otherwise temprarily disable the purple wire for cold starts. At 08:45 PM 12/15/2008, you wrote: It will once its sorted out, unless its worn out. I have not smoked any crack lately. TE wrote: I'm not saying it was perfect, but its still running somewhere outside of Atlanta with over 260k on it. People that think a 22 year old diesel engine will just crank right up, not smoke, run smooth after sitting in 20 degree weather all night are smoking crack. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
I have never smoked ANYTHING and absolutely and certainly not crack, but my '87 300D (110 kmi) built in Oct '86 started on first rotation (as usual) one morning last week after sitting overnight in 20 degree weather. 'Held the glow for 5 seconds or so after the glow light went out; started instantly and ran smoothly immediately. My '91 350SDL (195 kmi) starts instantly and runs nicely and smoothly, too, under the same conditions. However, SWMBO complained several days ago that the 126 runs rough. As usual, she tries to hurry the glow, though she has been driving MB Diesels for 29 years and I have been trying to tell her to let it glow and to let it glow a little longer when it's REALLY cold. After she told me it runs rough, I went out the next morning and started it with a proper glow - nice and smooth. Wilton - Original Message - From: TE ban...@carolina.rr.com To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts I'm not saying it was perfect, but its still running somewhere outside of Atlanta with over 260k on it. People that think a 22 year old diesel engine will just crank right up, not smoke, run smooth after sitting in 20 degree weather all night are smoking crack. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 9:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts just because your SDL also did that does not mean its right. A 60x should start right up down to at least 0 even with dino oil in it. TE wrote: Dude, this is normal. My SDL would run rough for the first minute or two. Taking off with a cold engine was a trip... pegged to the floor, slow as hell. It smoked, it rattled, it was slow... Don't let these fools tell you that you need this and that, it's either 21 or 22 years old, cut it some slack. As long as there is there is no sluggishness or excessive smoke at idle when up to operating temp, then you have a perfectly sound SDL. I could be wrong, you may want to CHECK YOUR FUSES! te -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
OK - the only thing I smoke is over pecan wood, but my 300,000 mile 19 year old Diesel sat out all night, and started up without smoke, and ran smoothly at 17F this morning. On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:49 PM, TE ban...@carolina.rr.com wrote: I'm not saying it was perfect, but its still running somewhere outside of Atlanta with over 260k on it. People that think a 22 year old diesel engine will just crank right up, not smoke, run smooth after sitting in 20 degree weather all night are smoking crack. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
My old 300D with 270,000 miles would crank up perfectly at -5F -- run the glowplugs, crank for a couple seconds and it was running on all six. Might kick once or twice, but nothing more (this is with the head gasket replaced but still with the cracked head). First mile or so it's a bit sluggish, but only white smoke for a couple seconds. Didn't get that cold last winter, and the new 300D isn't quite so good (probably has low compression, I've not checked), but if I let the glow plugs run ten seconds or so after the lamp goes out, same deal. Runs on all six instantly, may kick once or twice, and rattles some, but otherwise it's just like normal. Sluggish until the temp guage moves, but that means only slow to respond, not low power per se. I did start it once at about 20F without letting the glow plugs run long enough -- in warm weather the lamp is out by the time I get my seat belt on, and so it bucked, snorted, smoked, and in general behaved just like yours. You either have bad glow plugs or are NOT letting them run long enough to get good ignition. Peter On Dec 15, 2008, at 8:43 PM, TE wrote: Dude, this is normal. My SDL would run rough for the first minute or two. Taking off with a cold engine was a trip... pegged to the floor, slow as hell. It smoked, it rattled, it was slow... Don't let these fools tell you that you need this and that, it's either 21 or 22 years old, cut it some slack. As long as there is there is no sluggishness or excessive smoke at idle when up to operating temp, then you have a perfectly sound SDL. I could be wrong, you may want to CHECK YOUR FUSES! te -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes- boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 9:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts True - for 61x engine, not so for a 60x engine with Mobil 1 and good glow plugs, at least in my experience. On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't read the other replies but here's my take on it. That is normal for a diesel in cold weather, at least for my 240D. Until it warms up just a bit, it is even more slow that one would anticipate. Painfully slow. Pedal to the floor and go 10 mph. But, after about 90 seconds or so, things get a bit (in 240D terms) more rapid. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
Mine does, with more than 300,000 miles on the odometer! So does my brother's, but his lives in a garage except when it's parked outside when his wife drives it to work Peter On Dec 15, 2008, at 8:49 PM, TE wrote: I'm not saying it was perfect, but its still running somewhere outside of Atlanta with over 260k on it. People that think a 22 year old diesel engine will just crank right up, not smoke, run smooth after sitting in 20 degree weather all night are smoking crack. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes- boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 9:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts just because your SDL also did that does not mean its right. A 60x should start right up down to at least 0 even with dino oil in it. TE wrote: Dude, this is normal. My SDL would run rough for the first minute or two. Taking off with a cold engine was a trip... pegged to the floor, slow as hell. It smoked, it rattled, it was slow... Don't let these fools tell you that you need this and that, it's either 21 or 22 years old, cut it some slack. As long as there is there is no sluggishness or excessive smoke at idle when up to operating temp, then you have a perfectly sound SDL. I could be wrong, you may want to CHECK YOUR FUSES! te -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL cranky cold starts
TE wrote: I'm not saying it was perfect, but its still running somewhere outside of Atlanta with over 260k on it. People that think a 22 year old diesel engine will just crank right up, not smoke, run smooth after sitting in 20 degree weather all night are smoking crack. My S420 started right up with temps in the low teens this morning, but took about 10-15 seconds to come off the fast idle circuit. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
