Re: [MBZ] SDL fuel tank screen

2005-11-22 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 00:39:36 -0500 Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I THINK it's 46 mm. That's 1 13/16"
> 
> Marshall


For the W123,

The sender (on top of the tank, accessable by removing the first aid
kit) and the strainer (accessable from under the car) both measure
1.804" across the flats. This is 45.82mm and implies one would use a
46mm (1.811") or 1 13/16" (1.813") socket. If you have a large enough
crescent or monkey wrench, you might be able to loosen it from inside
the trunk. I didn't try this, I just removed the tank, since my car
had been sitting a year-and-a-half outside here in hot, muggy Texas
and I wanted to take care of any algae that might have accumulated in
it.


Craig



Re: [MBZ] SDL fuel tank screen

2005-11-22 Thread Marshall Booth

Loren Faeth wrote:

Thanks again, Dr. Booth,

I tried to get in there with the "big mother" channel lock, but didn't get 
them where they could bite.  They are too big to fit on perpendicular, 
because of the differential and rear subframe position.  I think I have the 
next smaller size in my drill box that is 200 miles away.  I will look 
around in daylight and see if I have another, smaller set of channel locks 
here.  I think I have a 12 inch set somewhere.  One 12" set was in the TD 
that killed the deer, and it is 200 miles away also.The filter nut 
looks to be a 44 or 45 mm wrench size.


I am thinking about seeing if Oreally's has a 1 3/4 inch spindle nut wrench 
for 4wd i can borrow.  As thin as the nut is, a spindle wrench or plumber's 
wrench  would grab more of the hex than a traditional socket or box wrench, 
unless you grind it flat.


  On the old under-trunk tanks, I could get them with the big mother 
channel-locks.


Loren
86 SDL, et al


I THINK it's 46 mm. That's 1 13/16"

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] SDL fuel tank screen

2005-11-22 Thread Loren Faeth

Thanks again, Dr. Booth,

I tried to get in there with the "big mother" channel lock, but didn't get 
them where they could bite.  They are too big to fit on perpendicular, 
because of the differential and rear subframe position.  I think I have the 
next smaller size in my drill box that is 200 miles away.  I will look 
around in daylight and see if I have another, smaller set of channel locks 
here.  I think I have a 12 inch set somewhere.  One 12" set was in the TD 
that killed the deer, and it is 200 miles away also.The filter nut 
looks to be a 44 or 45 mm wrench size.


I am thinking about seeing if Oreally's has a 1 3/4 inch spindle nut wrench 
for 4wd i can borrow.  As thin as the nut is, a spindle wrench or plumber's 
wrench  would grab more of the hex than a traditional socket or box wrench, 
unless you grind it flat.


 On the old under-trunk tanks, I could get them with the big mother 
channel-locks.


Loren
86 SDL, et al

At 09:06 PM 11/21/2005, you wrote:

> Open the channel locks to the right general size of the screen's "bolt
> head".  Mount the bolt head perpendicularly with the channel locks.  Take a
> large crescent wrench and tighten it down on the nice, flat surface of the
> lower jaw of the channel locks.





Re: [MBZ] SDL fuel tank screen

2005-11-22 Thread Marshall Booth

And if you like - I could post Richard's answer several MORE times ;-)

Marshall
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'87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 
turbo 237kmi




Re: [MBZ] SDL fuel tank screen

2005-11-22 Thread Marshall Booth

Loren Faeth wrote:
Thanks Dr Booth.  I also did find the 47-100 pdf on my cd, but it was not 
indexed.


I pulled both hoses from the bottom of the tank.  Unfortunately, the  "out" 
line was black inside, indicating the presence of algae.  As much as I 
drive the car, the algae didn't grow there, so it was pumped in.


After removing the rubber big grommet, # 71 on the 47-100, I could see the 
big nut to remove the screen.  I am not sure I have a wrench that will fit 
it.  It looks like it is 1 1/2 to 1 3/4, and a 3/4 inc drive socket that 
big won't fit in there, above the differential.  My 12" adjustable won't go 
that big.  It looks like a job for an offset box wrench, but I don't have 
one that big.  Hm.  I will go out and try what i have, but it looks 
like i may need to buy or build a wrench of some form.



Here's how I did it, using a MB special tool (that would be My Bench):

Tools Needed:
1. Large pair of channel locks
2. Large crescent wrench
3. One 6 x 4 Griot's Garage fuel tank rag (yeah, right)

Proceed:

Open the channel locks to the right general size of the screen's "bolt
head".  Mount the bolt head perpendicularly with the channel locks.  Take a
large crescent wrench and tighten it down on the nice, flat surface of the
lower jaw of the channel locks.  You now have a custom-made socket wrench
for fuel tank screen removal -- works great.  However, not recommended for
use on bolts under severe torque (severe meaning anything much more than the
fuel tank screen).

Install in reverse order.

That's it!

Richard


Here is Richard Easley's solution:

Here's how I did it, using a MB special tool (that would be My Bench):

Tools Needed:
1. Large pair of channel locks
2. Large crescent wrench
3. One 6 x 4 Griot's Garage fuel tank rag (yeah, right)

Proceed:

Open the channel locks to the right general size of the screen's "bolt
head".  Mount the bolt head perpendicularly with the channel locks.  Take a
large crescent wrench and tighten it down on the nice, flat surface of the
lower jaw of the channel locks.  You now have a custom-made socket wrench
for fuel tank screen removal -- works great.  However, not recommended for
use on bolts under severe torque (severe meaning anything much more than the
fuel tank screen).

Install in reverse order.

That's it!

Richard

Several points. If you haven't removed water from your fuel several 
times a year, then it's probably growing. Algae lives/grows in water and 
eats fuel.


While you can often CLEAN the screen, Mercedes just replaces one that's 
occluded - they don't even TALK about cleaning it.


Marshall
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  Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
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'87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 
turbo 237kmi




Re: [MBZ] SDL fuel tank screen

2005-11-22 Thread Ron Dwelle
When I changed the one on my 190D, I had to go to a rent-all place and 
rent a socket that would fit. It was a big mother--can't remember the 
size though. The differential wasn't in the way for the 190--I suppose 
you could just use a big adjustable pliers on the socket.



Ron Dwelle

On Nov 21, 2005, at 9:28 PM, Loren Faeth wrote:

Thanks Dr Booth.  I also did find the 47-100 pdf on my cd, but it was 
not

indexed.

I pulled both hoses from the bottom of the tank.  Unfortunately, the  
"out"

line was black inside, indicating the presence of algae.  As much as I
drive the car, the algae didn't grow there, so it was pumped in.

After removing the rubber big grommet, # 71 on the 47-100, I could see 
the
big nut to remove the screen.  I am not sure I have a wrench that will 
fit

it.  It looks like it is 1 1/2 to 1 3/4, and a 3/4 inc drive socket that
big won't fit in there, above the differential.  My 12" adjustable 
won't go
that big.  It looks like a job for an offset box wrench, but I don't 
have

one that big.  Hm.  I will go out and try what i have, but it looks
like i may need to buy or build a wrench of some form.


Loren




Re: [MBZ] SDL fuel tank screen

2005-11-22 Thread Loren Faeth
Thanks Dr Booth.  I also did find the 47-100 pdf on my cd, but it was not 
indexed.


I pulled both hoses from the bottom of the tank.  Unfortunately, the  "out" 
line was black inside, indicating the presence of algae.  As much as I 
drive the car, the algae didn't grow there, so it was pumped in.


After removing the rubber big grommet, # 71 on the 47-100, I could see the 
big nut to remove the screen.  I am not sure I have a wrench that will fit 
it.  It looks like it is 1 1/2 to 1 3/4, and a 3/4 inc drive socket that 
big won't fit in there, above the differential.  My 12" adjustable won't go 
that big.  It looks like a job for an offset box wrench, but I don't have 
one that big.  Hm.  I will go out and try what i have, but it looks 
like i may need to buy or build a wrench of some form.



Loren

At 05:34 PM 11/21/2005, you wrote:

Has anyone cleaned or removed the tank screen on an SDL?

I don't see a big plug like on the older diesels.  From the 47-10 job, it
looks like the fuel out is the line closest to the differential.  If I pull
that line, does the screen come out also?

There is no job for cleaning the  screen.


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[MBZ] SDL fuel tank screen

2005-11-21 Thread Loren Faeth

Has anyone cleaned or removed the tank screen on an SDL?

I don't see a big plug like on the older diesels.  From the 47-10 job, it 
looks like the fuel out is the line closest to the differential.  If I pull 
that line, does the screen come out also?


There is no job for cleaning the  screen.