Re: [MBZ] SDL mysteries

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

They removed the idle speed cable to the dash.  That was replaced with 
the EDS.  When it works, it is fine.  When it goes wonky, it is very 
annoying.



clay via Mercedes 
September 8, 2016 at 12:20 AM
Well, that is good to know.

Not planning to drive in the extreme cold.

Not sure why there would be a need for electronic idle control

clay


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Re: [MBZ] SDL mysteries

[clay via Mercedes]

He stripped my pix

clay

> On Sep 6, 2016, at 2:18 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Still need pics of before, during, after.  Can Kleb allow posts of links to 
> pics on the okieserver?
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
> On 9/6/16 4:14 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
>> There is a 8 pin connection in front of the fuse/relay box that lives in the 
>> engine section.  It leads to something behind and under the IP.  IT was 
>> unplugged when I got the car.  When I plugged it back together, the car was 
>> able to glow, but when I tried to light it off, there was a “sprang” sound 
>> and the whole thing went dead.  No start, no dash lights, nothing.  No 
>> action when I cycle the key/ignition.I unplugged and all was good once 
>> more.
>> 
>> What does that thing hook to?  Why did it make it not go?
>> 
>> So far, I am $200 into paint and filling primer.  The trunk lid has one coat 
>> of John Deere green, the hood is ready for first sand of the primer and 
>> another coat of heavy fill prime on the deeper divots.  I will need to take 
>> the side cladding off to deal with some of the more involved surface rust.
>> 
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1986 SDL - Polei
>> 
>> retired models-
>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] SDL mysteries

[clay via Mercedes]

Ok, that will not be a trouble.  The CC is dead, or at least the stick is not 
working.

clay

> On Sep 6, 2016, at 1:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It goes to the cruise control actuator 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 6, 2016, at 3:14 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> There is a 8 pin connection in front of the fuse/relay box that lives in the 
>> engine section.  It leads to something behind and under the IP.  IT was 
>> unplugged when I got the car.  When I plugged it back together, the car was 
>> able to glow, but when I tried to light it off, there was a “sprang” sound 
>> and the whole thing went dead.  No start, no dash lights, nothing.  No 
>> action when I cycle the key/ignition.I unplugged and all was good once 
>> more.
>> 
>> What does that thing hook to?  Why did it make it not go?
>> 
>> So far, I am $200 into paint and filling primer.  The trunk lid has one coat 
>> of John Deere green, the hood is ready for first sand of the primer and 
>> another coat of heavy fill prime on the deeper divots.  I will need to take 
>> the side cladding off to deal with some of the more involved surface rust.
>> 
>> 
>> clay 
>> 
>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1986 SDL - Polei
>> 
>> retired models-
>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] SDL mysteries

[clay via Mercedes]

Well, that is good to know.

Not planning to drive in the extreme cold.  

Not sure why there would be a need for electronic idle control

clay

> On Sep 6, 2016, at 1:25 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The plug on the back of the IP is for the EDS = electronic idle control.  
> With the help of Max, I fouund out this is unneeded, if you turn up the idle 
> stop on the rear of the engine to a reasonable warm idles speed.  This means 
> in extremely cold weather, You may need to keep a foot on the go pedal for a 
> minute or 3 after an extreme cold start.
> 
> The glow should work without the EDS.  Fix the juice to the dash and glow 
> systems.   Leave the EDS plug OFF the IP.
> 
>> clay via Mercedes 
>> September 6, 2016 at 3:14 PM
>> There is a 8 pin connection in front of the fuse/relay box that lives in the 
>> engine section. It leads to something behind and under the IP. IT was 
>> unplugged when I got the car. When I plugged it back together, the car was 
>> able to glow, but when I tried to light it off, there was a “sprang” sound 
>> and the whole thing went dead. No start, no dash lights, nothing. No action 
>> when I cycle the key/ignition. I unplugged and all was good once more.
>> 
>> What does that thing hook to? Why did it make it not go?
>> 
>> So far, I am $200 into paint and filling primer. The trunk lid has one coat 
>> of John Deere green, the hood is ready for first sand of the primer and 
>> another coat of heavy fill prime on the deeper divots. I will need to take 
>> the side cladding off to deal with some of the more involved surface rust.
>> 
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1986 SDL - Polei
>> 
>> retired models-
>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] SDL mysteries

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

True, but that connector on the back of the IP is only two pins, but eight.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On September 6, 2016 4:25:16 PM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>The plug on the back of the IP is for the EDS = electronic idle 
>control.  With the help of Max, I fouund out this is unneeded, if you 
>turn up the idle stop on the rear of the engine to a reasonable warm 
>idles speed.  This means in extremely cold weather, You may need to
>keep 
>a foot on the go pedal for a minute or 3 after an extreme cold start.
>
>The glow should work without the EDS.  Fix the juice to the dash and 
>glow systems.   Leave the EDS plug OFF the IP.
>

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Re: [MBZ] SDL mysteries

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Yes, that's my guess also, but I've no idea how it would cause no-start, unless 
something is really wrong, maybe many things wrong
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On September 6, 2016 4:49:01 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>It goes to the cruise control actuator 
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>>

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Re: [MBZ] SDL mysteries

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Still need pics of before, during, after.  Can Kleb allow posts of links 
to pics on the okieserver?


--FT


On 9/6/16 4:14 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:

There is a 8 pin connection in front of the fuse/relay box that lives in the 
engine section.  It leads to something behind and under the IP.  IT was 
unplugged when I got the car.  When I plugged it back together, the car was 
able to glow, but when I tried to light it off, there was a “sprang” sound and 
the whole thing went dead.  No start, no dash lights, nothing.  No action when 
I cycle the key/ignition.I unplugged and all was good once more.

What does that thing hook to?  Why did it make it not go?

So far, I am $200 into paint and filling primer.  The trunk lid has one coat of 
John Deere green, the hood is ready for first sand of the primer and another 
coat of heavy fill prime on the deeper divots.  I will need to take the side 
cladding off to deal with some of the more involved surface rust.


clay

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei

retired models-
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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Re: [MBZ] SDL mysteries

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It goes to the cruise control actuator 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 6, 2016, at 3:14 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> There is a 8 pin connection in front of the fuse/relay box that lives in the 
> engine section.  It leads to something behind and under the IP.  IT was 
> unplugged when I got the car.  When I plugged it back together, the car was 
> able to glow, but when I tried to light it off, there was a “sprang” sound 
> and the whole thing went dead.  No start, no dash lights, nothing.  No action 
> when I cycle the key/ignition.I unplugged and all was good once more.
> 
> What does that thing hook to?  Why did it make it not go?
> 
> So far, I am $200 into paint and filling primer.  The trunk lid has one coat 
> of John Deere green, the hood is ready for first sand of the primer and 
> another coat of heavy fill prime on the deeper divots.  I will need to take 
> the side cladding off to deal with some of the more involved surface rust.
> 
> 
> clay 
> 
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 
> retired models-
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] SDL mysteries

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Alarm?
-Curt

  From: clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net>
 Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 4:14 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] SDL mysteries
   
There is a 8 pin connection in front of the fuse/relay box that lives in the 
engine section.  It leads to something behind and under the IP.  IT was 
unplugged when I got the car.  When I plugged it back together, the car was 
able to glow, but when I tried to light it off, there was a “sprang” sound and 
the whole thing went dead.  No start, no dash lights, nothing.  No action when 
I cycle the key/ignition.    I unplugged and all was good once more.

What does that thing hook to?  Why did it make it not go?

So far, I am $200 into paint and filling primer.  The trunk lid has one coat of 
John Deere green, the hood is ready for first sand of the primer and another 
coat of heavy fill prime on the deeper divots.  I will need to take the side 
cladding off to deal with some of the more involved surface rust.


clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei

retired models-
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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Re: [MBZ] SDL mysteries

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The plug on the back of the IP is for the EDS = electronic idle 
control.  With the help of Max, I fouund out this is unneeded, if you 
turn up the idle stop on the rear of the engine to a reasonable warm 
idles speed.  This means in extremely cold weather, You may need to keep 
a foot on the go pedal for a minute or 3 after an extreme cold start.


The glow should work without the EDS.  Fix the juice to the dash and 
glow systems.   Leave the EDS plug OFF the IP.



clay via Mercedes 
September 6, 2016 at 3:14 PM
There is a 8 pin connection in front of the fuse/relay box that lives 
in the engine section. It leads to something behind and under the IP. 
IT was unplugged when I got the car. When I plugged it back together, 
the car was able to glow, but when I tried to light it off, there was 
a “sprang” sound and the whole thing went dead. No start, no dash 
lights, nothing. No action when I cycle the key/ignition. I unplugged 
and all was good once more.


What does that thing hook to? Why did it make it not go?

So far, I am $200 into paint and filling primer. The trunk lid has one 
coat of John Deere green, the hood is ready for first sand of the 
primer and another coat of heavy fill prime on the deeper divots. I 
will need to take the side cladding off to deal with some of the more 
involved surface rust.



clay

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei

retired models-
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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[MBZ] SDL mysteries

[clay via Mercedes]

There is a 8 pin connection in front of the fuse/relay box that lives in the 
engine section.  It leads to something behind and under the IP.  IT was 
unplugged when I got the car.  When I plugged it back together, the car was 
able to glow, but when I tried to light it off, there was a “sprang” sound and 
the whole thing went dead.  No start, no dash lights, nothing.  No action when 
I cycle the key/ignition.I unplugged and all was good once more.

What does that thing hook to?  Why did it make it not go?

So far, I am $200 into paint and filling primer.  The trunk lid has one coat of 
John Deere green, the hood is ready for first sand of the primer and another 
coat of heavy fill prime on the deeper divots.  I will need to take the side 
cladding off to deal with some of the more involved surface rust.


clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei

retired models-
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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