Re: [MBZ] SLS pump for a 123 wanted
I love happy endings like this! Congratulations for a job well done. On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 1:33 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Dieselhead wrote: You've been busy! heh. Yup. And I'm ever so grateful for my garage! It's not insulated, but it's dry, wind free, and doesn't have a gravel floor! And with the salamander-type heater, it can even be a (insulated) glove-free zone. *grin* -- Philip -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SLS pump for a 123 wanted
Fmiser wrote: I opened it up, with the plan to replace the shaft seal. The shaft is stuck in the cover and the cover bushing-to-shaft is _way_ to loose. And the shaft has worn grooves, and scoring from the body bushing. The pump from the parts car is actually in better shape - except the seal grooves are deeper. Both, I suspect, ran for a considerably amount of time without sufficient clean oil in the system. :( I got new seals from Rusty. 004-997-01-47 - shaft seal 010-997-43-45 - o-ring to seal the cover to the body. I combined the best parts from the two pumps. Before putting the pump cam shaft in I used a diamond hone to file down the grooves a bit. I don't know how long it will last, but it seems to be holding for now. I called PotomicGerman for a used one. None available - but the fellow did say $250 for a rebuit one. I coated everything liberally with suspension fluid before putting it back together. I annealed the copper sealing rings for the output bango fitting, replaced the suction hose (bulk hose, part number 114-997-04-82, about $13 per meter). To flush the old fluid out, I started by disconnected the return line to the tank and put a clear hose to route it to a collection can. Then I put 5 blocks under the back tires and disconnected the pivot link between the valve and the sway bar. Opening the bleeder screw allowed the weight of the car to squeeze fluid out of the shocks. After no more came out, I closed the bleeder screw, made sure there was plenty of fluid in the tank, and started the car. With the engine idling, I moved the lever on the valve to lift the car. On the S123, the lever on the valve moves in the direction the car will. That is, move the lever up and the car goes up - move it down and the car goes down. Anyway, I ran it up to the top a couple times. By then, the fluid returning was clean, so I called it done. So far, no leaks - and the leveling is working as it should. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SLS pump for a 123 wanted
You've been busy! Fmiser wrote: I opened it up, with the plan to replace the shaft seal. The shaft is stuck in the cover and the cover bushing-to-shaft is _way_ to loose. And the shaft has worn grooves, and scoring from the body bushing. The pump from the parts car is actually in better shape - except the seal grooves are deeper. Both, I suspect, ran for a considerably amount of time without sufficient clean oil in the system. :( I got new seals from Rusty. 004-997-01-47 - shaft seal 010-997-43-45 - o-ring to seal the cover to the body. I combined the best parts from the two pumps. Before putting the pump cam shaft in I used a diamond hone to file down the grooves a bit. I don't know how long it will last, but it seems to be holding for now. I called PotomicGerman for a used one. None available - but the fellow did say $250 for a rebuit one. I coated everything liberally with suspension fluid before putting it back together. I annealed the copper sealing rings for the output bango fitting, replaced the suction hose (bulk hose, part number 114-997-04-82, about $13 per meter). To flush the old fluid out, I started by disconnected the return line to the tank and put a clear hose to route it to a collection can. Then I put 5 blocks under the back tires and disconnected the pivot link between the valve and the sway bar. Opening the bleeder screw allowed the weight of the car to squeeze fluid out of the shocks. After no more came out, I closed the bleeder screw, made sure there was plenty of fluid in the tank, and started the car. With the engine idling, I moved the lever on the valve to lift the car. On the S123, the lever on the valve moves in the direction the car will. That is, move the lever up and the car goes up - move it down and the car goes down. Anyway, I ran it up to the top a couple times. By then, the fluid returning was clean, so I called it done. So far, no leaks - and the leveling is working as it should. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SLS pump for a 123 wanted
Dieselhead wrote: You've been busy! heh. Yup. And I'm ever so grateful for my garage! It's not insulated, but it's dry, wind free, and doesn't have a gravel floor! And with the salamander-type heater, it can even be a (insulated) glove-free zone. *grin* -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SLS pump for a 123 wanted
PGA = Potomac German Auto (now part of the LKQ Empire but still has lots of MB stuff at fair prices and they ship. http://www.pgauto.com/ -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Fmiser Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:27 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] SLS pump for a 123 wanted David Bruckmann wrote: I'm not sure what rough shape means. I opened it up, with the plan to replace the shaft seal. The shaft is stuck in the cover and the cover bushing-to-shaft is _way_ to loose. And the shaft has worn grooves, and scoring from the body bushing. The pump from the parts car is actually in better shape - except the seal grooves are deeper. Both, I suspect, ran for a considerably amount of time without sufficient clean oil in the system. :( I haven't bought used parts since Atlanta Stutgard closed shop... Is there a respectable used parts supplier? --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SLS pump for a 123 wanted
Andrew does NOT have a spare SLS pump, but IS seeking a 1985 300TD engine. On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 7:24 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: PGA = Potomac German Auto (now part of the LKQ Empire but still has lots of MB stuff at fair prices and they ship. http://www.pgauto.com/ -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Fmiser Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:27 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] SLS pump for a 123 wanted David Bruckmann wrote: I'm not sure what rough shape means. I opened it up, with the plan to replace the shaft seal. The shaft is stuck in the cover and the cover bushing-to-shaft is _way_ to loose. And the shaft has worn grooves, and scoring from the body bushing. The pump from the parts car is actually in better shape - except the seal grooves are deeper. Both, I suspect, ran for a considerably amount of time without sufficient clean oil in the system. :( I haven't bought used parts since Atlanta Stutgard closed shop... Is there a respectable used parts supplier? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] SLS pump for a 123 wanted
The Self Leveling Suspension pump on my '85 wagon is in pretty rough shape. So too is the one from the parts car. And I'm trying to avoid spending on a new one. Anyone here know of a used one in decent shape? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SLS pump for a 123 wanted
Andrew's got one attached to an engine with really bad compression that won't start... -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Fmiser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 9:24 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] SLS pump for a 123 wanted The Self Leveling Suspension pump on my '85 wagon is in pretty rough shape. So too is the one from the parts car. And I'm trying to avoid spending on a new one. Anyone here know of a used one in decent shape? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SLS pump for a 123 wanted
Max Dillon wrote: Andrew's got one attached to an engine with really bad compression that won't start... I thought that was the car he was hunting for another engine for - 'cause the engine in it doesn't have the drive for a pump. Or is that his other wagon. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SLS pump for a 123 wanted
I'm not sure what rough shape means. If it's just visibly leaking (or leaking internally, causing the hydraulic fluid to turn black wiht engine oil), you can try replacing the shaft seals. Often, the leak is because the (pump's) camshaft has wear grooves worn into it. Replacing the seals will provide temporary relief, but obviously they will not hold as long. The repair job number is 32-645 in the Chassis manual. Seems like a relatively easy job. I think the seal p/ns are 010 997 43 45 and 004 997 01 47. D. Philip wrote: The Self Leveling Suspension pump on my '85 wagon is in pretty rough shape. So too is the one from the parts car. And I'm trying to avoid spending on a new one. Anyone here know of a used one in decent shape? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SLS pump for a 123 wanted
David Bruckmann wrote: I'm not sure what rough shape means. I opened it up, with the plan to replace the shaft seal. The shaft is stuck in the cover and the cover bushing-to-shaft is _way_ to loose. And the shaft has worn grooves, and scoring from the body bushing. The pump from the parts car is actually in better shape - except the seal grooves are deeper. Both, I suspect, ran for a considerably amount of time without sufficient clean oil in the system. :( I haven't bought used parts since Atlanta Stutgard closed shop... Is there a respectable used parts supplier? --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
