Re: [MBZ] Solar power, wes:] Tesla Model 3: More "Global Climate Change" than a Mercedes
They have done several iterations of this thing so they seem to be able to get stuff to market. Companies are using kickstarter to gauge demand these days. On Thu, Oct 17, 2019, 10:56 AM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > I like this thing as well - but is it still vaporware??? > Also - looks like the grid down feasture only powers a dedicated circuit, > not general use circuits since it has no grid disconnect capability. > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 9:44 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Seems like this thing is able to keep the net to zero, so maybe it would > > limit the panels to whatever you are using and not drop out just because > > the grid is down. > > > > > > > https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/plxdevices/legion-solar-4-permission-free-energy-and-storage > > > > > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > for themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Solar power, wes:] Tesla Model 3: More "Global Climate Change" than a Mercedes
You don't want to let a turbine free-spin. Angle it 90 degrees to the wind if you're shutting it off entirely. The load sump is to keep it running when it's producing beyond your needs. Mitch > On October 17, 2019 at 4:17 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > One would think that a wind turbine could do the same. Just need an auto > clutch to disconnect from the charging unit when power was not wanted. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Solar power, wes:] Tesla Model 3: More "Global Climate Change" than a Mercedes
On 17/10/2019 2:00 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: It sounds like some of the early grid-tie inverters of 20-30 years ago. You need panels, battery, and a current sink (like a BIG tank of water with a resistance heater). Power from the panels went to household loads, then to the battery, then down the sink or, if you hit the sell button, onto the grid. In "guerilla solar" (unpermitted) installations, the meter ran backwards in sell mode, something you didn't want to be happening when the meter reader came along. In simple guerilla setups you left out the battery and current dump, and just ran all the excess onto the grid. All the inverters on the market had appropriate shutdown when the grid went unstable. Looking back on it, I think the dump was needed for wind turbines, not solar panels. Solar-only charge controllers just let the solar go open circuit if the power was unwanted. Mitch. One would think that a wind turbine could do the same. Just need an auto clutch to disconnect from the charging unit when power was not wanted. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Solar power, wes:] Tesla Model 3: More "Global Climate Change" than a Mercedes
It sounds like some of the early grid-tie inverters of 20-30 years ago. You need panels, battery, and a current sink (like a BIG tank of water with a resistance heater). Power from the panels went to household loads, then to the battery, then down the sink or, if you hit the sell button, onto the grid. In "guerilla solar" (unpermitted) installations, the meter ran backwards in sell mode, something you didn't want to be happening when the meter reader came along. In simple guerilla setups you left out the battery and current dump, and just ran all the excess onto the grid. All the inverters on the market had appropriate shutdown when the grid went unstable. Looking back on it, I think the dump was needed for wind turbines, not solar panels. Solar-only charge controllers just let the solar go open circuit if the power was unwanted. Mitch. > On October 17, 2019 at 1:55 PM OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > > I like this thing as well - but is it still vaporware??? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Solar power, wes:] Tesla Model 3: More "Global Climate Change" than a Mercedes
I like this thing as well - but is it still vaporware??? Also - looks like the grid down feasture only powers a dedicated circuit, not general use circuits since it has no grid disconnect capability. On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 9:44 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Seems like this thing is able to keep the net to zero, so maybe it would > limit the panels to whatever you are using and not drop out just because > the grid is down. > > > https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/plxdevices/legion-solar-4-permission-free-energy-and-storage > > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
