Re: [MBZ] The Motor Stadt in Stuttgart, Germany

[MICHAEL ESH]

That is a beautiful picture,
thansk 
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Rich et al,

That car (#18) is a w196. Here is a link to a picture taken of these  
cars head on this past October while visiting in Germany.  
Http://www.oldworldauto.com/Images/MBM/DSCN1267.JPG. It is about 0.8  
Mb, in the event you are on modem. Onto the rest of the lineup from  
memory: #722 to the left is a 300slr (Mille Miglia car driven by Moss  
w/ Jenkinson navigating) followed by a w165, iirc. The car behind #36  
(some sort of record car) is a w125 and that is followed by a Targa  
Florio winner from the 1920s (?). The car directly behind #8 is a w196  
monoposto GP car, following it is a w154 (if memory serves correctly),  
and that is followed by a w25. If time allows, make the time to visit  
the "greenhouse" where it began for Herr Daimler as well. It was like  
making a pilgrimage.


Mathieu

On Jan 9, 2007, at 12:27 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:


Good article about all the motor museums and displays in the area. You
can stop in on them when you go pick up your new SLR to drive around  
the

Continent on spring holiday.

What is that Benz racer in the front in the picture?  That thing is
beautiful.

--R

http://travel.nytimes.com/2007/01/07/travel/07journeys.html? 
ref=automobiles



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Re: [MBZ] The Motor Stadt in Stuttgart, Germany

[Jeff Zedic]

Nice Photo Mathieu! For those of you that don't want to register
with the Times, I've copied and pastd the article to the list:

Jeff Zedic
London, UK

THE taxi driver, a middle-aged man from
India,
wasted no time as he barreled away from the Stuttgart airport, his scrappy
Citroën whizzing past Audis, BMWs and an unusually high number of
Mercedes-Benzes at over 140 kilometers (85 miles) an hour.
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Mayr for The New York Times

A postwar vehicle at the Mercedes-Benz Museum.

"First time in Stuttgart?" he asked. "Yes," I replied, nervously eyeing the
speedometer as it gunned toward 160 kilometers and showed no signs of
easing. So this, I thought, is what it's like to take a spin on
Germany's
legendary, freewheeling autobahn. Except we weren't on the autobahn. We were
simply speeding.

Call it a shotgun introduction to Stuttgart, the prosperous city in
southwest Germany where car worship, like one's taxi driver, seems to know
no limits.

If devotion is measured in monuments, then there's no greater tribute to the
city's automotive love affair than the gleaming new Mercedes-Benz Museum, a
150 million euro cyclone of aluminum, steel and glass designed by the
vanguard Dutch firm UNStudio. Unveiled last May, it erupts like an engine
backfiring, near the junction of the B10 and B14 highways on the banks of
the Neckar River. It is a nine-story leviathan of muscular ambition that
spirals like a warped wedding cake on a podium of gray granite.

And it is attracting car buffs worldwide to this city where the automobile
reigns supreme.

Practically speaking, after all, Stuttgart is where the automobile industry
was invented (though nearby Mannheim shares bragging rights). Not only are
Mercedes, Maybach and their parent company, Daimler Chrysler, based there,
but it is also the corporate home of Porsche, which has its own museum
across town, and the automotive parts giants Bosch (spark plugs) and Mahle
(pistons). The number of auto-enthusiast magazines published in Stuttgart
could pave a racetrack. And car shows like the annual Retro Classics, a
vintage automobile fair, bring tens of thousands of gear heads to the city,
whose population is 600,000, every year.

But to truly appreciate Stuttgart's automotive devotion, one need only gaze
at its skyline. In most European cities, you might see church spires. In
Stuttgart, you'll find the three-pointed Mercedes-Benz logo, spinning atop
the main train station and illuminated at night like a guiding star.

"We're a car city," said Bernd Ostmann, the editor in chief of the
Stuttgart-based magazine auto motor und sport.

Still, Stuttgart's automotive strength is not immediately obvious. Coddled
within a picturesque valley laced with green belts and parklands, it is
where unpretentious low-rises creep up leafy hillsides, as locals talk
leisurely over plates of spaetzle and steins of beer. Stuttgarters indulge
in their pints as much as their cars — though, presumably, not at once —
and, on some days, the pungent fragrance of the city's breweries descends
pleasantly on the manicured squares, museums and restored 18th-century
palaces of a historic district reshaped 60 years after World War II.

Indeed, modern Stuttgart may be built on engines and grease, but the casual
observer senses only tidiness and order in its well-scrubbed buildings of
stucco, glass, concrete and stone. In fact, sightseers might struggle to
find any S-Classes or 911s — cars are banished from much of the city's
historic center.

At the same time, Stuttgart is in some ways playing catch-up with other
auto-crazed cities in Germany. Consider Wolfsburg where, in 2000, Volkswagen
unveiled its glittering Autostadt, a kind of Epcot Center for the
automobile. Or 
Dresden

Re: [MBZ] The Motor Stadt in Stuttgart, Germany]

[Rich Thomas]

Thanks for that pic and the info -- 722 is gorgeous too -- I would take 
either one (well, both!).  Wouldn't it be cool to make a body like 
those, even fiberglass, and graft it onto something more modern -- an SL 
of some sort?  S curvaceous.


--R

Mathieu J. Cama wrote:

Rich,

If the attachment goes through, here is the same car shot from another 
angle. That (#18) is a w196. # 722 to the left is a 300slr (Mille 
Miglia car driven by Moss w/ Jenkinson navigating) followed by a w165, 
iirc. The car behind #36 (some sort of record car) is a w125 and that 
is followed by a Targa Florio winner from the 1920s (?). The car 
directly behind #8 is a w196 monoposto GP car, following it is a w154 
(if memory serves correctly), and that is followed by a w25. Photo 
taken this past October while visiting the museum during a quick trip 
to Germany. If time allows, make the time to visit the "greenhouse" 
where it began for Herr Daimler as well. It was like making a 
pilgrimage. If the attachment does not work you can see the picture 
here: http://www.oldworldauto.com/Images/MBM/DSCN1267.JPG. It is about 
0.8 Mb, in the event you are on modem.


Mathieu

Re: [MBZ] The Motor Stadt in Stuttgart, Germany]

[Mathieu J . Cama]

Rich,

If the attachment goes through, here is the same car shot from another 
angle. That (#18) is a w196. # 722 to the left is a 300slr (Mille 
Miglia car driven by Moss w/ Jenkinson navigating) followed by a w165, 
iirc. The car behind #36 (some sort of record car) is a w125 and that 
is followed by a Targa Florio winner from the 1920s (?). The car 
directly behind #8 is a w196 monoposto GP car, following it is a w154 
(if memory serves correctly), and that is followed by a w25. Photo 
taken this past October while visiting the museum during a quick trip 
to Germany. If time allows, make the time to visit the "greenhouse" 
where it began for Herr Daimler as well. It was like making a 
pilgrimage. If the attachment does not work you can see the picture 
here: http://www.oldworldauto.com/Images/MBM/DSCN1267.JPG. It is about 
0.8 Mb, in the event you are on modem.


Mathieu

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On Jan 9, 2007, at 1:51 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:




Good article about all the motor museums and displays in the area. You
can stop in on them when you go pick up your new SLR to drive around  
the

Continent on spring holiday.

What is that Benz racer in the front in the picture?  That thing is
beautiful.

--R

http://travel.nytimes.com/2007/01/07/travel/07journeys.html? 
ref=automobiles


I had the photo here but it bounced



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Re: [MBZ] The Motor Stadt in Stuttgart, Germany]

[LarryT]

   Those are the Grand Prix cars of 54/55/56 IIRC. Back then, they would 
run a F1 car in sports car events (and vise versa) by putting a streamlined 
body on it - which is shown in the photo -- there were several - W154, W196 
and some others - not sure how the numbers break down.


   Amazing machines - checkout this site:
http://www.allsportauto.com/english/mercedes_w196.php for the W196 and 
others -


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Rich - that "Times" article only hit the highlights.  Not far from
Stuttgart, another "candy factory" is the AMG plant at Affalterbach, where
they do strange and wonderful things, much at customer's special orders, to
products that started in Stuttgart area D-C facilities.
You can also see the Smart factory designed dealership in Böblingen, and the
M-B Classic Center in Fellbach.  All suburbs of Stuttgart, but seemingly
just part of the metro area.
All these places, and the transportation museum at Sinsheim (with the
Concorde and Russian SSTs on the roof!) were part of the 3 MBCA 50th
anniversary tours in 2006; there are plans for more tours in 2007.

Oh - the racer in the picture seems to be the superlative 1950s era Grand
Prix car.

Werner

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Good article about all the motor museums and displays in the area. You
can stop in on them when you go pick up your new SLR to drive around the
Continent on spring holiday.

What is that Benz racer in the front in the picture?  That thing is
beautiful.

--R

http://travel.nytimes.com/2007/01/07/travel/07journeys.html?ref=automobiles

I had the photo here but it bounced




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Re: [MBZ] The Motor Stadt in Stuttgart, Germany]

[Werner Fehlauer]

Rich - that "Times" article only hit the highlights.  Not far from 
Stuttgart, another "candy factory" is the AMG plant at Affalterbach, where 
they do strange and wonderful things, much at customer's special orders, to 
products that started in Stuttgart area D-C facilities.
You can also see the Smart factory designed dealership in Böblingen, and the 
M-B Classic Center in Fellbach.  All suburbs of Stuttgart, but seemingly 
just part of the metro area.
All these places, and the transportation museum at Sinsheim (with the 
Concorde and Russian SSTs on the roof!) were part of the 3 MBCA 50th 
anniversary tours in 2006; there are plans for more tours in 2007.


Oh - the racer in the picture seems to be the superlative 1950s era Grand 
Prix car.


Werner

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From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 1:51 PM
Subject: [MBZ] The Motor Stadt in Stuttgart, Germany]





Good article about all the motor museums and displays in the area. You
can stop in on them when you go pick up your new SLR to drive around the
Continent on spring holiday.

What is that Benz racer in the front in the picture?  That thing is
beautiful.

--R

http://travel.nytimes.com/2007/01/07/travel/07journeys.html?ref=automobiles

I had the photo here but it bounced

[MBZ] The Motor Stadt in Stuttgart, Germany]

[Rich Thomas]

Good article about all the motor museums and displays in the area. You 
can stop in on them when you go pick up your new SLR to drive around the 
Continent on spring holiday.


What is that Benz racer in the front in the picture?  That thing is 
beautiful.


--R

http://travel.nytimes.com/2007/01/07/travel/07journeys.html?ref=automobiles

I had the photo here but it bounced

[MBZ] The Motor Stadt in Stuttgart, Germany

[Rich Thomas]

Good article about all the motor museums and displays in the area. You 
can stop in on them when you go pick up your new SLR to drive around the 
Continent on spring holiday.


What is that Benz racer in the front in the picture?  That thing is 
beautiful.


--R

http://travel.nytimes.com/2007/01/07/travel/07journeys.html?ref=automobiles