Re: [MBZ] Totally OT poll -- just for my own curiousity

2008-07-15 Thread Redghost
Her father was well educated and worked here in seattle for years.   
Mrs Obama graduated from High School here, then went to HI to get  
knocked up.  There she found a love for dark meat, having not had or  
seen it before

clay

On 15 Jul 2008, at 07:01, Mitch Haley wrote:

> Rich Thomas wrote:
>> (1) He *should* be a muslim per his "father's" choice of religion,
>
> Why put "father's" in quotation marks? Are you talking about Barack  
> Sr. or Lolo
> Soetoro (his stepfather)? It's my understanding that he went to a  
> muslim public
> school (AKA terrorist training camp) in Indonesia for a while, then  
> his mama
> stuck him in a catholic school. When he was ten, he was shipped off  
> to a private
> (non church) school in Hawaii, according to what's currently on  
> Wiki. That whole
> thing about living in Hawaii with maternal grandparents seems way  
> off, didn't
> they always live in Iowa?
>
> My favorite "father" story about Barack Jr:
> When he won the NC primary, his victory speech included a line  
> about upholding
> the principles behind the flag on his father's coffin. So  
> apparently he's
> working for Kenya while drawing a paycheck from the USA government.
>
> Mitch.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Totally OT poll -- just for my own curiousity

2008-07-15 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote:
> I don't think BHO Sr was a "father" in the proper sense of the word, he 
> was more of a "babadadduh."

Well, as far as Barry Jr knowing Barry Sr, you have a point, they had little to 
no contact after Jr was two years old, so Jr can't remember squat about that 
relationship. OTOH, Jr's parents were married and living together when he was 
born.
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Totally OT poll -- just for my own curiousity

2008-07-15 Thread Rich Thomas
I don't think BHO Sr was a "father" in the proper sense of the word, he 
was more of a "babadadduh."  Not that BHO Jr has any responsibility in 
that regard, it was his "mother's" responsibility (or lack thereof), but 
I am sure it has had a significant effect on him.  The way he has 
bounced around, it is probably hard for him to feel a part of much of 
anything.  I don't put much into that early schooling business, I can 
barely remember what school I went to when I was 6 or 8 yr old, and what 
if anything I was taught.

An article in the NYTimes quoted his (half) sister (of the Indonesian 
"father") as saying he took on the black identity at some point in high 
school in Hawaii (where he was the only, or one of the very few, kid who 
was darker than the others), sort of a self-identification, which she 
had no particular feelings about one way or the other as it was his 
right to be who he wanted to be.  Then I think after college/law school 
(and probably during), in Chicago, that (and that church aspect) became 
an expedient element of his political aspirations.  It is interesting to 
note too that his mother was white, his father was 1/4 black African and 
3/4 Arab (he had one black grandmother I think), making BHO Jr 1/8 black 
African.  I guess if he wants to be "black" that is his right -- I want 
to be a 24 yr old buffed stud with a, well, I won't go there, and I 
suppose if enough people believe I am then I can believe that I am and 
present myself as such.

I do admire his tenacity and trajectory, it shows a lot of dedication 
and intelligence and hard work to get as far as he (or anyone in a 
similar position) has.  I just don't think any of it really particularly 
qualifies him to be president, and I find his political leanings far 
from mine.

--R

Mitch Haley wrote:
> Rich Thomas wrote:
>   
>> (1) He *should* be a muslim per his "father's" choice of religion,
>> 
>
> Why put "father's" in quotation marks? Are you talking about Barack Sr. or 
> Lolo 
> Soetoro (his stepfather)? It's my understanding that he went to a muslim 
> public 
> school (AKA terrorist training camp) in Indonesia for a while, then his mama 
> stuck him in a catholic school. When he was ten, he was shipped off to a 
> private 
> (non church) school in Hawaii, according to what's currently on Wiki. That 
> whole 
> thing about living in Hawaii with maternal grandparents seems way off, didn't 
> they always live in Iowa?
>
> My favorite "father" story about Barack Jr:
> When he won the NC primary, his victory speech included a line about 
> upholding 
> the principles behind the flag on his father's coffin. So apparently he's 
> working for Kenya while drawing a paycheck from the USA government.
>
> Mitch.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Totally OT poll -- just for my own curiousity

2008-07-15 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote:
> (1) He *should* be a muslim per his "father's" choice of religion,

Why put "father's" in quotation marks? Are you talking about Barack Sr. or Lolo 
Soetoro (his stepfather)? It's my understanding that he went to a muslim public 
school (AKA terrorist training camp) in Indonesia for a while, then his mama 
stuck him in a catholic school. When he was ten, he was shipped off to a 
private 
(non church) school in Hawaii, according to what's currently on Wiki. That 
whole 
thing about living in Hawaii with maternal grandparents seems way off, didn't 
they always live in Iowa?

My favorite "father" story about Barack Jr:
When he won the NC primary, his victory speech included a line about upholding 
the principles behind the flag on his father's coffin. So apparently he's 
working for Kenya while drawing a paycheck from the USA government.

Mitch.

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