Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo

2013-12-20 Thread Hertzing
It's the dynamic steering which won't allow certain wheel inputs after a 
certain speed.  Same system on modern prevost busses... Awesome 

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> On Dec 20, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> I went back and watched it and Philip's right. If they're running the footage 
> backwards its dammed impressive how the drivers are driving forward while 
> watching the mirror...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 20:56:05 -0600
> From: Fmiser 
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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>>>> Mitch wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>   Remember the reversing Volvo truck split?
>>>>   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10
> 
>>> Craig wrote:
>>> 
>>> And how are they able to keep the trucks going straight
>>> backwards, particularly the truck on the right, the semi with a
>>> trailer?
> 
>> Dieselhead wrote:
>>  
>> Nuttin easier.  Run it backwards.  "Photoshop"
> 
> Maybe.  But I'm pretty certain those trucks were being driven in
> reverse.  Note where the drivers are looking.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo

2013-12-20 Thread Curt Raymond
I went back and watched it and Philip's right. If they're running the footage 
backwards its dammed impressive how the drivers are driving forward while 
watching the mirror...

-Curt

Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 20:56:05 -0600
From: Fmiser 
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> > > Mitch wrote:
> > >
> > >  Remember the reversing Volvo truck split?
> > >  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10

> > Craig wrote:
> >
> > And how are they able to keep the trucks going straight
> > backwards, particularly the truck on the right, the semi with a
> > trailer?

> Dieselhead wrote:
> 
> Nuttin easier.  Run it backwards.  "Photoshop"

Maybe.  But I'm pretty certain those trucks were being driven in
reverse.  Note where the drivers are looking.

--        Philip
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Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah

2013-12-20 Thread Curt Raymond
No, Chuck Norris isn't computer generated or animated. Its a composited image 
where elements have been computer generated but some are real. After Effects is 
a compositor although there are plenty of apps that also do that. I mentioned 
AE specifically since somebody mentioned Photoshop, both Pshop and AE are made 
by Adobe.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:46:30 +1030
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I think the words we are looking for is computer generated animation.

Hendrik
who is not computer generated

On 20/12/13 13:37, Curt Raymond wrote:
> After Effects, Photoshop is for still images.
>
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo edymevyg

2013-12-20 Thread Mitch Haley

Hendrik and Fay wrote:
http://www.volvotrucks.com/trucks/uk-market/en-gb/trucks/volvo-fm/key-features/Pages/volvo-dynamic-steering.aspx 

Another step towards full automation, trucks change gears themselves 
now, a manual box that is shifted as opposed to a traditional auto box.

I think Merc and other are incorporating distronic stuff into trucks etc
Won't be long and the driver will be able to let go of the steering 
wheel and read a book.


But if the driver's reading a book, who's going to hold the carrot?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N87uxyDQT0

Mitch.
PS the gibberish in the subject line is the daily secret code to tell Kaleb's
list software not to reject everything I post.


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Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah

2013-12-20 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel
"Van Damme and Van Damme in Van Damme Yankees!"  -MST3K

-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo edymevyg

2013-12-19 Thread Fmiser
> > Mitch Haley wrote:
> >
> > Remember the reversing Volvo truck split?
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10

> Craig wrote:
> 
> And how are they able to keep the trucks going straight backwards,
> particularly the truck on the right, the semi with a trailer?

A good driver.  Driving straight is a lot easier than turning.

-- Philip, who has backed up many, many semi-trailers.

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Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah

2013-12-19 Thread Hendrik and Fay
The system is designed to be a drivers aid, works both in forward and 
reverse.
Yeah backing a unit with one articulation is pretty easy, when you got 
two or more it becomes a bit trickier.
One of the tasks to gain a MC (multi combination) license is to back up 
a B-double for a 100 meters or so

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nSWoJ7A3Do

Hendrik
who took 15 minutes to reverse a B double

On 20/12/13 15:36, Michael Canfield wrote:

Yeah, that was the whole point of the ad.  Supposed to make backing
easier.  I say a good driver should be able to back up in a stright line on
a perfectly level surface without computer help.  I can back a 40 foot van
in a straight line for a looong ways with an old worn out
Freightshaker...lolol

Mike



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Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah

2013-12-19 Thread Michael Canfield
Yeah, that was the whole point of the ad.  Supposed to make backing
easier.  I say a good driver should be able to back up in a stright line on
a perfectly level surface without computer help.  I can back a 40 foot van
in a straight line for a looong ways with an old worn out
Freightshaker...lolol

Mike
On Dec 19, 2013 10:59 PM, "Fmiser"  wrote:

> > > > Mitch wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  Remember the reversing Volvo truck split?
> > > >  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10
>
> > > Craig wrote:
> > >
> > > And how are they able to keep the trucks going straight
> > > backwards, particularly the truck on the right, the semi with a
> > > trailer?
>
> > Dieselhead wrote:
> >
> > Nuttin easier.  Run it backwards.  "Photoshop"
>
> Maybe.  But I'm pretty certain those trucks were being driven in
> reverse.  Note where the drivers are looking.
>
> --Philip
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Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah

2013-12-19 Thread Fmiser
> > > Mitch wrote:
> > >
> > >  Remember the reversing Volvo truck split?
> > >  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10

> > Craig wrote:
> >
> > And how are they able to keep the trucks going straight
> > backwards, particularly the truck on the right, the semi with a
> > trailer?

> Dieselhead wrote:
> 
> Nuttin easier.  Run it backwards.  "Photoshop"

Maybe.  But I'm pretty certain those trucks were being driven in
reverse.  Note where the drivers are looking.

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah

2013-12-19 Thread Hendrik and Fay

I think the words we are looking for is computer generated animation.

Hendrik
who is not computer generated

On 20/12/13 13:37, Curt Raymond wrote:

After Effects, Photoshop is for still images.

-Curt




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Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah (what's with the uje0....?)

2013-12-19 Thread Hendrik and Fay

http://www.volvotrucks.com/trucks/uk-market/en-gb/trucks/volvo-fm/key-features/Pages/volvo-dynamic-steering.aspx
Another step towards full automation, trucks change gears themselves 
now, a manual box that is shifted as opposed to a traditional auto box.

I think Merc and other are incorporating distronic stuff into trucks etc
Won't be long and the driver will be able to let go of the steering 
wheel and read a book.


Hendrik
who does not read books whilst driving

On 20/12/13 11:36, Mitch Haley wrote:

Craig wrote:

On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:21:17 -0500 Mitch Haley  wrote:


Remember the reversing Volvo truck split?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10


And how are they able to keep the trucks going straight backwards,
particularly the truck on the right, the semi with a trailer?



It's an advert for Volvo's computer stability controls.

Mitch.



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Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah

2013-12-19 Thread Curt Raymond
After Effects, Photoshop is for still images.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:05:49 -0700
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On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:21:17 -0500 Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Remember the reversing Volvo truck split?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10

And how are they able to keep the trucks going straight backwards,
particularly the truck on the right, the semi with a trailer?


> Chuck Norris version:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-D1KVIuvjA

Definitely Photoshopped.


Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah

2013-12-19 Thread Michael Canfield
Notice the semi stays in line while the straight job pulls away.  Be near
impossible the other way around.

Mike
On Dec 19, 2013 7:05 PM, "Craig"  wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:21:17 -0500 Mitch Haley  wrote:
>
> > Remember the reversing Volvo truck split?
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10
>
> And how are they able to keep the trucks going straight backwards,
> particularly the truck on the right, the semi with a trailer?
>
>
> > Chuck Norris version:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-D1KVIuvjA
>
> Definitely Photoshopped.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah

2013-12-19 Thread Dieselhead

Nuttin easier.  Run it backwards.  "Photoshop"


On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:21:17 -0500 Mitch Haley  wrote:


 Remember the reversing Volvo truck split?
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10


And how are they able to keep the trucks going straight backwards,
particularly the truck on the right, the semi with a trailer?



 Chuck Norris version:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-D1KVIuvjA


Definitely Photoshopped.

Craig


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Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah

2013-12-19 Thread Mitch Haley

Craig wrote:

On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:21:17 -0500 Mitch Haley  wrote:


Remember the reversing Volvo truck split?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10


And how are they able to keep the trucks going straight backwards,
particularly the truck on the right, the semi with a trailer?



It's an advert for Volvo's computer stability controls.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah

2013-12-19 Thread Craig
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:21:17 -0500 Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Remember the reversing Volvo truck split?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10

And how are they able to keep the trucks going straight backwards,
particularly the truck on the right, the semi with a trailer?


> Chuck Norris version:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-D1KVIuvjA

Definitely Photoshopped.


Craig

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[MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah

2013-12-19 Thread Mitch Haley

Remember the reversing Volvo truck split?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10

Chuck Norris version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-D1KVIuvjA

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