Re: [MBZ] W210 - Unlocking steering column without key/fob in ignition
> Try to solder it back. Nothing to lose by trying Exactly. Or, get a handier friend to try. Or the local fix-my-computer place... The key fob (1 of 2) on the X5 stopped working, and just like MB it's a real pain and expensive to get another one. Nothing to lose, I cut it open. The internal rechargeable battery had broken loose from the PCB. I bought a replacement battery (VL2020 coin cell type) and soldered it in place, then glued the fob back together with 3M weatherstrip cement. Yes, you can definitely tell it's been dicked with, but it works again, has been working for over four years now. This is the daily-use fob. Cost a couple of dollars for the battery. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W210 - Unlocking steering column without key/fob in ignition
Try to solder it back. Nothing to lose by trying --FT Sent from iPhone > On Feb 26, 2021, at 4:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > 1999 E320. My friend's only key fob broke. The copper coil separated from > the circuit board inside the case. He can open the car doors with the fob, > but it doesn't signal the ignition switch to unlock the steering wheel or > start the car. The wheels and parking gear remain locked. > > To obtain a new key the Mercedes dealer requires him to tow the car to the > dealership and present his license and title to prove that he is the owner. > They will keep the car while the key is being manufactured in CA. There is > supposedly no way around this rule. > > Unfortunately the entrance to his condo garage is too low for the tow > tow truck to fit under the garage door. He and the tow truck driver could > not push the car out his parking spot because the front wheels are locked > (the car must turn to leave the parking space). > > So here is the issue: the front wheels are locked and he can't turn them > because there is no signal from the fob that unlocks the steering column. > > Is there any way the steering wheel can be unlocked without the key in the > ignition? > > The 210 Forum generated the following suggestions: > > *"It is much easier to get the key repaired. You can get a replacement coil > from eBay. I repaired several in the past. I am assuming you have a gen 2 > key. The one with panic button near the tip."* > > * "There is no way that you can unlock the steering wheel unless you cut > the mechanism up. There may be some locksmith wizards nearby with tools to > 'virginize' the steering wheel lock coding, and then unlock it."* > > These are non-starters IMO - has anyone BTDT and solved this problem > successfully? > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W210 - Unlocking steering column without key/fob in ignition
Some sort of wedge or board to toss in front of it so the casters cannot continue to roll should work. On 26/02/2021 4:41 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: OK Don via Mercedes writes: Never heard of that problem, but I'd try soldering the coil back to the board. Otherwise, get 4 car dollies - the curved steel plates with casters under, jack up the car, put one dolly under each wheel, and push it wherever you want! Yes push it wherever you want -- just remember you have no brakes, and something the mass of a car has a decent amount of inertia compared to a person. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W210 - Unlocking steering column without key/fob in ignition
OK Don via Mercedes writes: > Never heard of that problem, but I'd try soldering the coil back to the > board. Otherwise, get 4 car dollies - the curved steel plates with casters > under, jack up the car, put one dolly under each wheel, and push it > wherever you want! Yes push it wherever you want -- just remember you have no brakes, and something the mass of a car has a decent amount of inertia compared to a person. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W210 - Unlocking steering column without key/fob in ignition
Never heard of that problem, but I'd try soldering the coil back to the board. Otherwise, get 4 car dollies - the curved steel plates with casters under, jack up the car, put one dolly under each wheel, and push it wherever you want! https://www.harborfreight.com/1000-lb-capacity-vehicle-dollies-2-pc-61283.html On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 3:49 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > 1999 E320. My friend's only key fob broke. The copper coil separated from > the circuit board inside the case. He can open the car doors with the fob, > but it doesn't signal the ignition switch to unlock the steering wheel or > start the car. The wheels and parking gear remain locked. > > To obtain a new key the Mercedes dealer requires him to tow the car to the > dealership and present his license and title to prove that he is the owner. > They will keep the car while the key is being manufactured in CA. There is > supposedly no way around this rule. > > Unfortunately the entrance to his condo garage is too low for the tow > tow truck to fit under the garage door. He and the tow truck driver could > not push the car out his parking spot because the front wheels are locked > (the car must turn to leave the parking space). > > So here is the issue: the front wheels are locked and he can't turn them > because there is no signal from the fob that unlocks the steering column. > > Is there any way the steering wheel can be unlocked without the key in the > ignition? > > The 210 Forum generated the following suggestions: > > *"It is much easier to get the key repaired. You can get a replacement coil > from eBay. I repaired several in the past. I am assuming you have a gen 2 > key. The one with panic button near the tip."* > > * "There is no way that you can unlock the steering wheel unless you cut > the mechanism up. There may be some locksmith wizards nearby with tools to > 'virginize' the steering wheel lock coding, and then unlock it."* > > These are non-starters IMO - has anyone BTDT and solved this problem > successfully? > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W210 - Unlocking steering column without key/fob in ignition
1999 E320. My friend's only key fob broke. The copper coil separated from the circuit board inside the case. He can open the car doors with the fob, but it doesn't signal the ignition switch to unlock the steering wheel or start the car. The wheels and parking gear remain locked. To obtain a new key the Mercedes dealer requires him to tow the car to the dealership and present his license and title to prove that he is the owner. They will keep the car while the key is being manufactured in CA. There is supposedly no way around this rule. Unfortunately the entrance to his condo garage is too low for the tow tow truck to fit under the garage door. He and the tow truck driver could not push the car out his parking spot because the front wheels are locked (the car must turn to leave the parking space). So here is the issue: the front wheels are locked and he can't turn them because there is no signal from the fob that unlocks the steering column. Is there any way the steering wheel can be unlocked without the key in the ignition? The 210 Forum generated the following suggestions: *"It is much easier to get the key repaired. You can get a replacement coil from eBay. I repaired several in the past. I am assuming you have a gen 2 key. The one with panic button near the tip."* * "There is no way that you can unlock the steering wheel unless you cut the mechanism up. There may be some locksmith wizards nearby with tools to 'virginize' the steering wheel lock coding, and then unlock it."* These are non-starters IMO - has anyone BTDT and solved this problem successfully? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com