Re: [MBZ] Was ADHD Now Time

2010-11-08 Thread R A Bennell


So, I am assuming that this is something to do with the change back to 
standard time from daylight saving time, as I note a response at 9:50 to 
a message I sent at 10:37.


Anyone else experiencing this sort of thing today?

Randy

On 08/11/2010 9:50 AM, Dieselhead wrote:
Our kids got that "spelling doesn't matter"  "just get your ideas on 
paper" crap at school in the US too.  When they got home, they were 
told that spelling does matter, and we tried to illustrate WHY it 
matters.


One is finishing up his Ph.D. and the other spells and writes quite 
nicely too.


These days, if you send your kids to school, you have to "unlearn" 
them at home and teach them properly anyway.  So, you may as well 
homeschool in the first place.




You know, it was  close enough that we all knew what he meant.

My children, now in their 20's were taught in our schools, that it 
was more important to get one's ideas on the page than it was to do 
it correctly. I guess, on the assumption that it could be later 
edited and perhaps that they would learn to spell etc., by osmosis 
and the teachers would not have to put any real effort into such 
boring sujects as spelling and grammar.


The result is that one of my son's has managed to learn by himself - 
he has a Master's Degree now - and the other is never going to win 
any spelling bees etc. The younger one was quite happy not to have to 
worry about things like spelling and at the age of 22, still does not 
do well in that regard.


Randy


On 07/11/2010 10:15 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

...Around here they seem to just let the kids wonder the classrooms,
wonder the halls, listen to their headphones during class, just
wantever it seem.  Geez

A living example of the subject. Why don't you have someone edit 
this for

you and repost it.

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] Was ADHD Now Time

2010-11-08 Thread Mitch Haley

R A Bennell wrote:


So, I am assuming that this is something to do with the change back to 
standard time from daylight saving time, as I note a response at 9:50 to 
a message I sent at 10:37.


Anyone else experiencing this sort of thing today?


I think I saw a msg from JimC that arrived right after one from me but was 
stamped an hour later.


My computer auto updates in XP and has updates turned off in Vista. When I 
booted up at 4am (actually 3am) Sunday it must have updated without even telling 
me about it.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Was ADHD Now Time

2010-11-08 Thread Bob Rentfro
That's why you live in the AZnever change your clock.

Bob R

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:29 AM, R A Bennell  wrote:

>
> So, I am assuming that this is something to do with the change back to
> standard time from daylight saving time, as I note a response at 9:50 to a
> message I sent at 10:37.
>
> Anyone else experiencing this sort of thing today?
>
> Randy
>
> On 08/11/2010 9:50 AM, Dieselhead wrote:
>
>> Our kids got that "spelling doesn't matter"  "just get your ideas on
>> paper" crap at school in the US too.  When they got home, they were told
>> that spelling does matter, and we tried to illustrate WHY it matters.
>>
>> One is finishing up his Ph.D. and the other spells and writes quite nicely
>> too.
>>
>> These days, if you send your kids to school, you have to "unlearn" them at
>> home and teach them properly anyway.  So, you may as well homeschool in the
>> first place.
>>
>>
>> You know, it was  close enough that we all knew what he meant.
>>>
>>> My children, now in their 20's were taught in our schools, that it was
>>> more important to get one's ideas on the page than it was to do it
>>> correctly. I guess, on the assumption that it could be later edited and
>>> perhaps that they would learn to spell etc., by osmosis and the teachers
>>> would not have to put any real effort into such boring sujects as spelling
>>> and grammar.
>>>
>>> The result is that one of my son's has managed to learn by himself - he
>>> has a Master's Degree now - and the other is never going to win any spelling
>>> bees etc. The younger one was quite happy not to have to worry about things
>>> like spelling and at the age of 22, still does not do well in that regard.
>>>
>>> Randy
>>>
>>>
>>> On 07/11/2010 10:15 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:
>>>
 ...Around here they seem to just let the kids wonder the classrooms,
> wonder the halls, listen to their headphones during class, just
> wantever it seem.  Geez
>
> A living example of the subject. Why don't you have someone edit this
 for
 you and repost it.

 RLE
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Re: [MBZ] Was ADHD Now Time

2010-11-08 Thread Allan Streib
On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 10:45 -0700, "Bob Rentfro"  wrote:

> That's why you live in the AZnever change your clock.

Indiana used to be like that, Eastern Standard time year-round... then a few 
years ago we started on the daylight savings nonsense, the main argument being, 
basically, "everyone else does it."

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Was ADHD Now Time

2010-11-08 Thread Bob Rentfro
We do not give into that peer pressure...

Bob R
On Nov 8, 2010 11:23 AM, "Allan Streib"  wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 10:45 -0700, "Bob Rentfro"  wrote:
>
>> That's why you live in the AZnever change your clock.
>
> Indiana used to be like that, Eastern Standard time year-round... then a
few years ago we started on the daylight savings nonsense, the main argument
being, basically, "everyone else does it."
>
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Was ADHD Now Time

2010-11-08 Thread andrew strasfogel
I love waking up to daylight but also coming home in the daylight.  In a
best of all possible worlds, we would set the clocks back AND end work an
hour earlier so as not to suffer from the darker afternoons..



On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:

> We do not give into that peer pressure...
>
> Bob R
> On Nov 8, 2010 11:23 AM, "Allan Streib"  wrote:
> > On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 10:45 -0700, "Bob Rentfro" 
> wrote:
> >
> >> That's why you live in the AZnever change your clock.
> >
> > Indiana used to be like that, Eastern Standard time year-round... then a
> few years ago we started on the daylight savings nonsense, the main
> argument
> being, basically, "everyone else does it."
> >
> > Allan
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Was ADHD Now Time

2010-11-08 Thread OK Don
Or just forget the clock - go to work after the sun rises, and get home
before it sets -- seems that how life used to be?

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:35 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

> I love waking up to daylight but also coming home in the daylight.  In a
> best of all possible worlds, we would set the clocks back AND end work an
> hour earlier so as not to suffer from the darker afternoons..
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Was ADHD Now Time

2010-11-08 Thread Craig
On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:50:46 -0600 OK Don  wrote:

> Or just forget the clock - go to work after the sun rises, and get home
> before it sets -- seems that how life used to be?

Maybe a LONG time ago, but since the advent of artificial light from
candles and oil lamps and such, not so much.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Was ADHD Now Time

2010-11-09 Thread John Reames
True, but fire and bottled light don't affect my internal clock much, it still 
syncs to the outside. Tubed light does mess with my internal clock (and not in 
good ways at all); gotta love schedule inversions...


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On Nov 8, 2010, at 22:01, Craig  wrote:

> On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:50:46 -0600 OK Don  wrote:
> 
>> Or just forget the clock - go to work after the sun rises, and get home
>> before it sets -- seems that how life used to be?
> 
> Maybe a LONG time ago, but since the advent of artificial light from
> candles and oil lamps and such, not so much.
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Was ADHD Now Time

2010-11-09 Thread WILTON
During 24-hour daylight in Greenland, I had to blackout my bedroom windows 
with draperies and a blanket to make myself think it was dark outside. 
'Went out alone many times at 1, 2, etc., AM to "scout" around, photograph, 
etc., base and surrounding area.


Wilton

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True, but fire and bottled light don't affect my internal clock much, it 
still syncs to the outside. Tubed light does mess with my internal clock 
(and not in good ways at all); gotta love schedule inversions...



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On Nov 8, 2010, at 22:01, Craig  wrote:


On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:50:46 -0600 OK Don  wrote:


Or just forget the clock - go to work after the sun rises, and get home
before it sets -- seems that how life used to be?


Maybe a LONG time ago, but since the advent of artificial light from
candles and oil lamps and such, not so much.


Craig

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