[MBZ] Was Amazing July specials, Now Windows v. Mac
On Jun 22, 2006, at 2:48 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: In my case, it's because I don't feel like buying all new hardware, software, and peripherals, while paying more money for lower performance. Software and tons of it comes with the hardware. Peripherals will be plug and play and performance should not judged using the mini. For example, my PC's 128 megabyte GeForce4 video card, by no means a state-of-the-art design, runs rings around the 64 megabyte, non-upgradable video subsystem in my SO's Mac Mini. Again, the mini. How about comparing the fully upgradeable G-5 dual processor PowerMac or the new intel dual core G-5 PowerMac or MacBook Pro, even the new iMac. Check the specs on these models including standard and upgrade video cards, both with 256MB vRam. I like MacOS X, but not all the other stuff that goes with it, frankly. And all the other stuff is? Peace of mind, the most stable OS known to man, UNIX, zero% chance of your machine being infected by virus, a beautiful graphic front-end? Yeah, I hate all that stuff too. And MacOS X puts you on the same treadmill Windows does, making you buy upgrades on a regular basis as then end-of-life older versions and stop providing bug fixes. No one is forced to buy anything from anyone. I have machines from the late 1990s to date running from OS X 10.1.5 to the latest OS X Tiger 10.4.6. Mac OS X is open source and developers/users frequently provide bug fixes in the rare instance that the need should arise. Check some of Apple's discussion forums for good and bad news concerning Macs. In reality, bugs are few and far between and even my oldest computer running the oldest version of OS X just sits there turned on 24/7 (except during electrical storms) and works FOR me, no crashes, ever. I'm sold, whatever works for you, works for you. Enjoy it between crashes and virii. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
[MBZ] Was Amazing July specials, Now Windows v. Mac
On Jun 22, 2006, at 3:54 PM, Steve MacSween wrote: Hear, hear. Another note is that, based on what I read over about a year on the iMac mailing list, the transition to OS X on older iMacs like mine is often *not* a straightforward issue. The only problem with moving up to OS X is on older iMacs (333mhz tray loading and older) is that firmware must first be updated, prior to installation of Panther. The firmware update is free on Apple's website. Lots of cries for help from people who followed all the steps Except for step#1, updating the firmware!!! If the software wasn't stolen, there are very clear warnings provided to help users avoid that scenario. But who reads instructions and warnings? , but either did something out of turn or it just plain did not work. They always get it done in the end, but if I wanted that sort of hassle and grief I'd be on a WinTel platform already. Paying attention to and knowing what one is doing is helpful in matters such as this. A little easy research goes a long way. Mac(Sween) Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Was Amazing July specials, Now Windows v. Mac
John Berryman wrote: Again, the mini. How about comparing the fully upgradeable G-5 dual processor PowerMac or the new intel dual core G-5 PowerMac or MacBook Pro, even the new iMac. Check the specs on these models including standard and upgrade video cards, both with 256MB vRam. The G5s are indeed very nice machines. But the thing that really stands out for me on the website is starting at $1999. PCs with superior specs cost half that. I just can't get past the huge price premium. Otherwise I'd be more tempted.
Re: [MBZ] Was Amazing July specials, Now Windows v. Mac
On 6/23/06 12:43 PM, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Berryman wrote: Again, the mini. How about comparing the fully upgradeable G-5 dual processor PowerMac or the new intel dual core G-5 PowerMac or MacBook Pro, even the new iMac. Check the specs on these models including standard and upgrade video cards, both with 256MB vRam. The G5s are indeed very nice machines. But the thing that really stands out for me on the website is starting at $1999. PCs with superior specs cost half that. I just can't get past the huge price premium. Otherwise I'd be more tempted. Yabbut you must remember that, unlike PCs, they last a long, long time. Although ts not my primary computer now, I'm still doing page layout graphics on my 1994 PowerMac 6100. -- +-- GG 1997 SL500 (104k) http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm http://homepage.mac.com/deneals +--
Re: [MBZ] Was Amazing July specials, Now Windows v. Mac
John Berryman wrote: Again, the mini. How about comparing the fully upgradeable G-5 dual processor PowerMac or the new intel dual core G-5 PowerMac or MacBook Pro, even the new iMac. Check the specs on these models including standard and upgrade video cards, both with 256MB vRam. I just got a mac mini. The *new* ones have Intel chips in them and I found a store that was practically giving away the *old* version at like a 40% discount. Look for some of those, they sell as 1.24 and 1.42. And I will tell you it is swet. I got a 1.42 for $380. But I can't really weigh in on the war because I have PC's also as I make my living as a computer programmer. Dan Elliott 82 300D-T 97kmi Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.
Re: [MBZ] Was Amazing July specials, Now Windows v. Mac
On Jun 23, 2006, at 1:43 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: The G5s are indeed very nice machines. But the thing that really stands out for me on the website is starting at $1999. PCs with superior specs cost half that. I just can't get past the huge price premium. Otherwise I'd be more tempted. In the long run, it would be worth it. An infinitely upgradeable machine that will still be doing its job many years from now. There are less costly ones too. Even older iMacs can keep up pretty well and they're cheap. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am