[MBZ] Way OT -- Food disposer/composter

2010-12-10 Thread Rich Thomas
I am working on the new kitchen.  We live out in the fringe and have a 
septic system, so no running a food disposer into it.  I compost most of 
the veggie waste and such, but was thinking it would be convenient to 
cobble up some sort of sink disposer into some separate composting 
system -- just run a pipe directly from a separate disposer sink into 
this device.  Since it might include meat scraps and such in the stream, 
it would be a somewhat different system from just putting the veggie 
scraps into the compost bin.  Googling does not suggest any sort of 
solution (aside from doing what I do now), but it seems like there would 
be some sort of system that would take all that stuff and turn it into 
compost without anaerobic nastiness.


The basic idea would be to make it fairly easy to dump stuff in the 
disposer and it goes into something that I could deal with at my 
leisure, and not be filling up a can by the sink with veggie stuff, and 
dumping other scraps in the garbage, and cleaning the sink strainer of 
nasty goop every now and then.


Anyone know of any such system or would I have to figure it out?  Or 
will it not work?


--R

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Re: [MBZ] Way OT -- Food disposer/composter

2010-12-10 Thread WILTON
After the county inspector had finished his business at the house that I 
designed and built 32 years ago, I installed a disposer dumping into the 
septic tank with the rest of the stuff, but we still put the much greater 
percentage of compostable stuff in a compost bucket; most meats, etc., into 
haul-away garbage.  'Still do it that way on the city system.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 9:38 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Way OT -- Food disposer/composter


I am working on the new kitchen.  We live out in the fringe and have a 
septic system, so no running a food disposer into it.  I compost most of 
the veggie waste and such, but was thinking it would be convenient to 
cobble up some sort of sink disposer into some separate composting 
system -- just run a pipe directly from a separate disposer sink into this 
device.  Since it might include meat scraps and such in the stream, it 
would be a somewhat different system from just putting the veggie scraps 
into the compost bin.  Googling does not suggest any sort of solution 
(aside from doing what I do now), but it seems like there would be some 
sort of system that would take all that stuff and turn it into compost 
without anaerobic nastiness.


The basic idea would be to make it fairly easy to dump stuff in the 
disposer and it goes into something that I could deal with at my leisure, 
and not be filling up a can by the sink with veggie stuff, and dumping 
other scraps in the garbage, and cleaning the sink strainer of nasty goop 
every now and then.


Anyone know of any such system or would I have to figure it out?  Or will 
it not work?


--R

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Re: [MBZ] Way OT -- Food disposer/composter

2010-12-10 Thread Max Dillon
The house I grew up in had a grey water discharge (i.e. from the sinks,
clothes washer, shower, and tub) that simply went down and out over a
forested hill side, and a septic tank for the toilet.  The grey water
discharge must have been well designed, as it never blocked up in the
Wisconsin winter time when the ground was frozen.  I'll bet if your septic
tank and field are large enough, they could handle the additional discharge
of the sink disposer, if you routed all the rest of the grey water to a
different drainage field.  I've seen kitchen sinks with a smaller separate
basin for the disposer, so normal water flow doesn't reach it without an
effort.  Your dishwasher discharge has some food scraps in it - where does
that go now?

-Max

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of WILTON
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 10:06 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Way OT -- Food disposer/composter

After the county inspector had finished his business at the house that I 
designed and built 32 years ago, I installed a disposer dumping into the 
septic tank with the rest of the stuff, but we still put the much greater 
percentage of compostable stuff in a compost bucket; most meats, etc., into 
haul-away garbage.  'Still do it that way on the city system.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 9:38 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Way OT -- Food disposer/composter


I am working on the new kitchen.  We live out in the fringe and have a 
septic system, so no running a food disposer into it.  I compost most of 
the veggie waste and such, but was thinking it would be convenient to 
cobble up some sort of sink disposer into some separate composting 
system -- just run a pipe directly from a separate disposer sink into this 
device.  Since it might include meat scraps and such in the stream, it 
would be a somewhat different system from just putting the veggie scraps 
into the compost bin.  Googling does not suggest any sort of solution 
(aside from doing what I do now), but it seems like there would be some 
sort of system that would take all that stuff and turn it into compost 
without anaerobic nastiness.

 The basic idea would be to make it fairly easy to dump stuff in the 
 disposer and it goes into something that I could deal with at my leisure, 
 and not be filling up a can by the sink with veggie stuff, and dumping 
 other scraps in the garbage, and cleaning the sink strainer of nasty goop 
 every now and then.

 Anyone know of any such system or would I have to figure it out?  Or will 
 it not work?

 --R

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Re: [MBZ] Way OT -- Food disposer/composter

2010-12-10 Thread WILTON
Grey water discharge onto the surface, into ditches, streams, etc., is 
illegal in NC; 'don't know 'bout SC.
Disposer discharge into septic at my house was never a problem; 'asked the 
people who bought house from me about it several months ago; 'still not a 
problem.  As with a disposer or any equipment anywhere, one needs to use 
some common sense using it.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net

To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Way OT -- Food disposer/composter



The house I grew up in had a grey water discharge (i.e. from the sinks,
clothes washer, shower, and tub) that simply went down and out over a
forested hill side, and a septic tank for the toilet.  The grey water
discharge must have been well designed, as it never blocked up in the
Wisconsin winter time when the ground was frozen.  I'll bet if your septic
tank and field are large enough, they could handle the additional 
discharge

of the sink disposer, if you routed all the rest of the grey water to a
different drainage field.  I've seen kitchen sinks with a smaller separate
basin for the disposer, so normal water flow doesn't reach it without an
effort.  Your dishwasher discharge has some food scraps in it - where does
that go now?

-Max

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of WILTON
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 10:06 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Way OT -- Food disposer/composter

After the county inspector had finished his business at the house that I
designed and built 32 years ago, I installed a disposer dumping into the
septic tank with the rest of the stuff, but we still put the much greater
percentage of compostable stuff in a compost bucket; most meats, etc., 
into

haul-away garbage.  'Still do it that way on the city system.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 9:38 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Way OT -- Food disposer/composter



I am working on the new kitchen.  We live out in the fringe and have a
septic system, so no running a food disposer into it.  I compost most of
the veggie waste and such, but was thinking it would be convenient to
cobble up some sort of sink disposer into some separate composting
system -- just run a pipe directly from a separate disposer sink into this
device.  Since it might include meat scraps and such in the stream, it
would be a somewhat different system from just putting the veggie scraps
into the compost bin.  Googling does not suggest any sort of solution
(aside from doing what I do now), but it seems like there would be some
sort of system that would take all that stuff and turn it into compost
without anaerobic nastiness.

The basic idea would be to make it fairly easy to dump stuff in the
disposer and it goes into something that I could deal with at my leisure,
and not be filling up a can by the sink with veggie stuff, and dumping
other scraps in the garbage, and cleaning the sink strainer of nasty goop
every now and then.

Anyone know of any such system or would I have to figure it out?  Or will
it not work?

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Way OT -- Food disposer/composter

2010-12-10 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 11:22 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Disposer discharge into septic at my house was never a problem; 'asked the
 people who bought house from me about it several months ago; 'still not a
 problem.  As with a disposer or any equipment anywhere, one needs to use
 some common sense using it.


My thoughts, too.  Doesn't it make a big difference how much food you are in
the habit of putting down the disposer?  I have seen people shovel entire
platefuls of unwanted leftovers in there, but that has always seemed to me
to be a poor practice whether you are on a septic system or a public sewer.


Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Way OT -- Food disposer/composter

2010-12-10 Thread WILTON

Yes, it makes a difference.

Wilton

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Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Way OT -- Food disposer/composter



On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 11:22 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Disposer discharge into septic at my house was never a problem; 'asked 
the

people who bought house from me about it several months ago; 'still not a
problem.  As with a disposer or any equipment anywhere, one needs to use
some common sense using it.


My thoughts, too.  Doesn't it make a big difference how much food you are 
in

the habit of putting down the disposer?  I have seen people shovel entire
platefuls of unwanted leftovers in there, but that has always seemed to me
to be a poor practice whether you are on a septic system or a public 
sewer.



Alex
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