Re: [MBZ] Wood key tops
That's B-52 wreckage in the water behind the woman watering flowers; also the wreckage with the USAF star on it. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Hendrik & Fay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 4:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wood key tops > Never did find that B-52 in the lake http://wikimapia.org/151809/ but > apparently there is not much left to see, did find a little park where > the NVA left a pile of anti aircraft weapons and guidance radars and > such. Apparently the B-52 in the lake was shot down in Dec 72. > Thankfully I have never been on the receiving (or giving) end of a > bombing raid but it must be sheer hell. Apparently at the war museum in > London they have a simulator that recreates what it was like during the > blitz, mate of mine had a go but didn't last the full session. > I suppose Vietnam was the hot war the cold war needed not to get turned > into WW3. > > Hendrik > who don't like war much > > wilton strickland wrote: > > Dropped a lot of iron from B-52's onto Vietnam, > > including Linebacker II missions to Hanoi in Dec 72, to help bring an end to > > that national tragedy of Vietnam. > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That looks great Wilton. I am inspired to get back to work on my keys. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of wilton strickland Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 3:55 PM To: mercedes Subject: [MBZ] Wood key tops Here's a photo of the key top focused significantly better but sill not perfect. Wilton -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: woodkeytop.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 63249 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080229/3dd89ede/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Thanks Wilton, sounds like a nice colour combo. Nice to hear how you keep it too. Ed 300E 337,200 kms. On 02/03/2008, wilton strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Craig, the wood key top is black walnut. > > Ed, the dash is the usual black. The under-dash, console, upholstery, > etc., > is burgundy MB tex. Exterior is arctic white. The car is a > near-showroom-condition 87 300D (124), 106 kmi > > Wilton > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wood key tops
Craig, the wood key top is black walnut. Ed, the dash is the usual black. The under-dash, console, upholstery, etc., is burgundy MB tex. Exterior is arctic white. The car is a near-showroom-condition 87 300D (124), 106 kmi Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What caught my eye was the colour of your dash. Is the whole interior that colour? I don't recall seeing one like that before. Ed 300E On 02/03/2008, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:55:07 -0500 "wilton strickland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Here's a photo of the key top focused significantly better but sill not > > perfect. > > The key looks really nice. What type of wood did you use? > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wood key tops
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:55:07 -0500 "wilton strickland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's a photo of the key top focused significantly better but sill not > perfect. The key looks really nice. What type of wood did you use? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wood key tops
Here's a photo of the key top focused significantly better but sill not perfect. Wilton -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: woodkeytop.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 63249 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080229/3dd89ede/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I don't like your chances much with that sort of camera, I have a Canon A510 and close close ups are pretty hard. Perhaps there are some tips in the operators manual. The Canon is a good mid budget camera, easy to use and pumps out reasonable quality pics. Anyway I guess some of the photo buffs on the list may have some clues on how to get good close up pictures. Hendrik wilton strickland wrote: > Hendrik, the camera is my wife's Canon S-410. I've never used it before > 'cause my tremor has been so bad for several years 'til recently that I > couldn't even HOLD it, much less use it. 'Gonna try it again 'cause it does > "worry" me to have sent out-of-focus photos to such a fine bunch of Mercedes > aficionado perfectionists. 'Think I'll back off from the subject next time > so the autofocus can do its work. > > I know it was a light-hearted dig. I do appreciate the critique and am not > surprised - actually, fully expected. > > Wilton > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wood key tops & B-52's
Hendrik, we lost 2% or 15 of the 750 B-52 sorties in the Hanoi area during those 11 nights of Dec 72, when we finally fought that war as it should have been many years before (if we were going to be involved). Our leaders were expecting to lose 10%. I'm still amazed that we could fly through so much AAA (antiaircraft artillery) and SAM's (surface-to-air missiles) and keep right on going to do it all over again the next night, etc. The AAA reached to only 29k feet, though, and we were at 35k to 37k, but the sky at our altitude was still so full of SAM's plus zig-zagging B-52's, I feel extremely lucky to still "be around." Did you see the sky over Baghdad on CNN from the hotel window the first night of Gulf War I? The sky over Hanoi and around us was that in multiples, it seemed. Lucky, Lucky Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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BTW, when I wrote, "I filed each end of the "wings" on the key to reduce width of the required slot," I meant the "wings" on top part of the metal key itself. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Interesting. I had not really thought about mortising the metal key into a slot on the bottom of the wooden part. I need to do a couple so maybe I will try that. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of wilton strickland Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 1:46 PM To: mercedes Subject: [MBZ] Wood key tops Don't need to spilt the blank and glue it together around the key. I started with a blank slightly bigger and thicker, of course, than finished top. 'Started with thickness about 5/16 inch. I filed off some excess on each side of the key top itself to "square-up" the "wings" and to slightly reduce the required width of slot to be routed into the wood blank. Note that thickness of the key is 1/8 inch. Using 1/8 inch dia. drill and grinder bits, I used Dremmel to rout 7/8 inch wide slot into leading edge of the blank, being careful to cut parallel to sides, etc. 'Measured depth by sight, small probes and by trial-and-error insertion of the key into the slot. Because of my still slightly shaky hands, I ended with slot slightly bigger than 1/8 X 7/8. I secured key in the slot with 2-part epoxy; appropriate, thick glue should work, also. I say "thick," 'cause ya wanta make sure all voids around the key are filled. With wood blank secured in small vice, I pushed epoxy into the slot, trying to have enough to squeeze out around the key but not so much to make a terrible mess. With epoxy in the slot, I pushed the key into it; 'had to add a little bit of epoxy around the key to completely fill the slot. Make sure key is aligned properly in the blank - sight all 3 directions - vertically, side-to-side and front to back. If necessary, secure it in position temporarily with masking tape while epoxy cures. Next day, I used file, rasp, sandpaper, etc., to finish new wood top to appropriate size. I stopped with a top slightly thicker than originals because I didn't wanta leave the wood too thin on each side of the key. I drilled key ring hole smaller than orig. to help maintain integrity of the wood, also, though I'm sure hole can be bigger than mine. 'Finished with 4 to 5 rubbings of clear past varnish. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wood key tops
Don't need to spilt the blank and glue it together around the key. I started with a blank slightly bigger and thicker, of course, than finished top. 'Started with thickness about 5/16 inch. I filed off some excess on each side of the key top itself to "square-up" the "wings" and to slightly reduce the required width of slot to be routed into the wood blank. Note that thickness of the key is 1/8 inch. Using 1/8 inch dia. drill and grinder bits, I used Dremmel to rout 7/8 inch wide slot into leading edge of the blank, being careful to cut parallel to sides, etc. 'Measured depth by sight, small probes and by trial-and-error insertion of the key into the slot. Because of my still slightly shaky hands, I ended with slot slightly bigger than 1/8 X 7/8. I secured key in the slot with 2-part epoxy; appropriate, thick glue should work, also. I say "thick," 'cause ya wanta make sure all voids around the key are filled. With wood blank secured in small vice, I pushed epoxy into the slot, trying to have enough to squeeze out around the key but not so much to make a terrible mess. With epoxy in the slot, I pushed the key into it; 'had to add a little bit of epoxy around the key to completely fill the slot. Make sure key is aligned properly in the blank - sight all 3 directions - vertically, side-to-side and front to back. If necessary, secure it in position temporarily with masking tape while epoxy cures. Next day, I used file, rasp, sandpaper, etc., to finish new wood top to appropriate size. I stopped with a top slightly thicker than originals because I didn't wanta leave the wood too thin on each side of the key. I drilled key ring hole smaller than orig. to help maintain integrity of the wood, also, though I'm sure hole can be bigger than mine. 'Finished with 4 to 5 rubbings of clear past varnish. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wood key tops
Look around in your camera for the "macro" setting. It'll allow the camera to focus up close at the loss of any zoom capablity. Most digitals have it, once its enabled you'll be able to get pics like that to work out. -Curt Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:31:49 -0500 From: "wilton strickland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MBZ] Wood key tops To: "mercedes" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Yeah, I'm very disappointed (and embarrassed) with the focus of the photos. Evidently, I was too close for aotofocus to handle it. Yes, my eyesight is still good enough to see that the photos are not well focused and, therefore, I shouldn't have sent 'em. Wilton - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wood key tops
Thanks to several for the camera ops tips - macro, etc. 'Just took more photos - 'thought I'd crop as necessary. BTW, as usual, when all else fails, check the manual. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wood key tops
Hey Wilton - would you care to comment further on how you made the wooden key tops? I have been toying with the idea of doing the same. Essentially, so far, I have routed out half depth in each side wooden piece with a dremel and planned to glue the two pieces of wood together. Initially I thought 2 part epoxy but then was wondering about using Gorilla Glue which says it will bond metal and wood. I also wondered about drilling the key where it will be in the wood to perhaps give the glue a better bite on it. I also wondered about putting a small brass rivet through the whole thing to tie it together along with the glue. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The S-410 does have macro mode, and should focus down to 1.5' even when not in macro. http://www.steves-digicams.com/2004_reviews/s410.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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wilton strickland wrote: > 'Think I'll back off from the subject next time so the autofocus can > do its work. You might want to look into a 'macro' mode for the camera. It should allow you to focus on things that are inches from the camera lens. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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wilton strickland wrote: > 'Gonna try it again 'cause it does "worry" me to have sent out-of-focus > photos to such a fine bunch of Mercedes aficionado perfectionists. If you have the instruction manual, look for a "macro" mode. Some cameras just won't go closer than 3-5 feet, in which case you're stuck. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hendrik, the camera is my wife's Canon S-410. I've never used it before 'cause my tremor has been so bad for several years 'til recently that I couldn't even HOLD it, much less use it. 'Gonna try it again 'cause it does "worry" me to have sent out-of-focus photos to such a fine bunch of Mercedes aficionado perfectionists. 'Think I'll back off from the subject next time so the autofocus can do its work. I know it was a light-hearted dig. I do appreciate the critique and am not surprised - actually, fully expected. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wood key tops
What sort of camera are you using, I take it is a digital one. Some of the early model digital cameras are really hard to get into focus. Close ups are a real pain with a budget digital, however spending 1000's on a fancy digital is also a pain, specially if they get stolen. Anyway I was only having a bit of a dig and I couldn't do much better with an average digital camera. Hendrik wilton strickland wrote: > Yeah, I'm very disappointed (and embarrassed) with the focus of the photos. > Evidently, I was too close for aotofocus to handle it. Yes, my eyesight is > still good enough to see that the photos are not well focused and, > therefore, I shouldn't have sent 'em. > > Wilton > > > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wood key tops
Never did find that B-52 in the lake http://wikimapia.org/151809/ but apparently there is not much left to see, did find a little park where the NVA left a pile of anti aircraft weapons and guidance radars and such. Apparently the B-52 in the lake was shot down in Dec 72. Thankfully I have never been on the receiving (or giving) end of a bombing raid but it must be sheer hell. Apparently at the war museum in London they have a simulator that recreates what it was like during the blitz, mate of mine had a go but didn't last the full session. I suppose Vietnam was the hot war the cold war needed not to get turned into WW3. Hendrik who don't like war much wilton strickland wrote: > Dropped a lot of iron from B-52's onto Vietnam, > including Linebacker II missions to Hanoi in Dec 72, to help bring an end to > that national tragedy of Vietnam. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wood key tops
Yeah, I'm very disappointed (and embarrassed) with the focus of the photos. Evidently, I was too close for aotofocus to handle it. Yes, my eyesight is still good enough to see that the photos are not well focused and, therefore, I shouldn't have sent 'em. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wood key tops
What else? Well, not much, I guess, but I've written 3 books, designed and built several houses, restored 2 National Register large Victorian mansions and the Georgian Colonial Revival house I'm living in; restored coupla '67 VW's 25 years ago. Dropped a lot of iron from B-52's onto Vietnam, including Linebacker II missions to Hanoi in Dec 72, to help bring an end to that national tragedy of Vietnam. Sat on alert with nuclear weapons for about a third of 13 years ready to launch in less than 15 minutes and deliver nukes to targets in USSR, contributing to collapse of that union and helping to end the cold war. And some other stuff, including lotsa stuff I've forgotten. Taking orders for key tops? 'Don't think so. Well, not yet, anyway, but what is one willing to pay? Maybe, I can be persuaded. BTW, "taking orders" reminds me - I do very well at most anything voluntarily, but I don't "WILL" (as in "You WILL do this or you WILL do that." in the military context of "taking orders") very well. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wood key tops
Not photography apparently :-) Hendrik who is no whizz with the camera, thank God for auto focus and such Chuck Landenberger wrote: > Wilton, > > You do great work. Clocks and keys and what else?? > Congratulations > > Take care, > > Chuck > On Feb 28, 2008, at 5:24 PM, wilton strickland wrote: > > >> Here are photos of black walnut key top I made coupla months ago. >> >> >> > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Beautiful work!! (Takin' orders? :) > From: "wilton strickland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:24:26 -0500 > To: "mercedes" > Subject: [MBZ] Wood key tops > > Here are photos of black walnut key top I made coupla months ago. > > Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Wilton, You do great work. Clocks and keys and what else?? Congratulations Take care, Chuck On Feb 28, 2008, at 5:24 PM, wilton strickland wrote: > Here are photos of black walnut key top I made coupla months ago. > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Here are photos of black walnut key top I made coupla months ago. Wilton -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Img_1281.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 135848 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080228/cd04b154/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Img_1282.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 137262 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080228/cd04b154/attachment-0001.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Img_1267.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 248006 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080228/cd04b154/attachment-0002.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
