Re: [MBZ] dry sumps

2012-10-25 Thread RELNGSON
 .What's a dry sump engine? No oil pan? Is this a bad thing?..
 
A dry sump engine carries it's oil in a tank next to the engine. There is 
no oil pan but just a slight depression where the oil pickup for the scavenge 
pump is located. The main oil pump (likely in unit with the scavenge pump) 
draws it oil from the oil tank where the foam settles out and is filtered 
and then sent to the oil cooler and then to the oil galleries. The scavenge 
pump has vastly more pumping capacity because it's pumping mostly foam.

Every aircoooled Porsche 911 engine ever built (since 1964) is a dry sump 
engine and carries on average of 11 quarts in the tank.

Like the 6.9, this all allows the engine to be lower and lighter since it 
carries little oil itself.

RLE
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] dry sumps

2011-06-21 Thread E M
And not to forget, one of the big reasons for a dry sump, is no oil
starvation when cornering through longer corners. Other none dry sump cars
that are subjects to heavy g loads in corners, will often add baffles in the
pan, to stop all the sloshing about, or the oil being thrown to one side in
corners.  A 911 will hold 2-3 quarts in the lower part of the engine, with
about 7 or so quarts in the aux oil tank.  Both are drained seperately in an
old p car.

Ed
300E

On 20 June 2011 19:41, relng...@aol.com wrote:

  A dry sump is the term for an oil pan where the oil isn't left in the
  sump. A lot of race applications use them in order to have a higher oil
  capacity and reduce the chance of sucking an air bubble if the oil
  sloshes...
 
 The MB 6.9 used a dry sump for ground clearance. All flat six Porsches were
 dry sump engines (from 1965) for more oil capacity for cooling plus the
 engine could be lower to lower the center of gravity. Adding one to a
 street
 car for other reasons is pointless.

 RLE

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Re: [MBZ] dry sumps

2011-06-20 Thread RELNGSON
 A dry sump is the term for an oil pan where the oil isn't left in the 
 sump. A lot of race applications use them in order to have a higher oil
 capacity and reduce the chance of sucking an air bubble if the oil 
 sloshes...
 
The MB 6.9 used a dry sump for ground clearance. All flat six Porsches were 
dry sump engines (from 1965) for more oil capacity for cooling plus the 
engine could be lower to lower the center of gravity. Adding one to a street 
car for other reasons is pointless.

RLE

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Re: [MBZ] dry sumps

2007-01-20 Thread Loren Faeth

Easily

At 03:21 PM 1/19/2007, you wrote:

 The dry sump was also used on the M100 engine, Triumph motorcycles and
 lots
 of aircraft applications.   I think the 300SL (not the 90s one, but the
 real 300SL) had a dry sump.  I believe the water cooled Allisons, Rolls
 Royce and Daimler-Benz V-12 aircraft engines of WWII were all dry sump

How could you forget the Porsche 911?

RLE



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Re: [MBZ] dry sumps

2007-01-19 Thread RELNGSON
 The dry sump was also used on the M100 engine, Triumph motorcycles and 
 lots
 of aircraft applications.   I think the 300SL (not the 90s one, but the
 real 300SL) had a dry sump.  I believe the water cooled Allisons, Rolls
 Royce and Daimler-Benz V-12 aircraft engines of WWII were all dry sump
 
How could you forget the Porsche 911?

RLE
 
 



Re: [MBZ] dry sumps

2007-01-19 Thread R A Bennell
Also Harley Davidson motorcycles.

Randy

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 The dry sump was also used on the M100 engine, Triumph motorcycles and
 lots
 of aircraft applications.   I think the 300SL (not the 90s one, but the
 real 300SL) had a dry sump.  I believe the water cooled Allisons, Rolls
 Royce and Daimler-Benz V-12 aircraft engines of WWII were all dry sump

How could you forget the Porsche 911?

RLE



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