Re: [MBZ] goform tires

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

HA, you said they didn't give you a boost in economy.
How many miles do you have on them? It'll be interesting to see how they last.
-Curt

 

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If you had been paying attention you would know that I am the happy, proud
owner of a set of Goform 195-70-HR-14 all season ties for my 1983 300TD.
They have good traction in wet or fry conditions (especially dry!) and give
me another 25 percent boost in fuel economy.  What's not to like?

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I was just curious about these Goform tires on tire-easy.com. They must
> be really crappy tires as they only have a 320AA tire quality rating.  This
> site has Westlake tires that are cheaper and have a 500 rating, if a person
> was going for super cheap tires.
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Re: [MBZ] goform tires

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Or blow out?

Wilton

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On December 19, 2015 at 3:32 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I'm thinking thru should not last any longer than about 30k miles. So is 
it
really cheaper to get them than  a quality tire that will last 2-3 times 
as

long? If it was a car I was selling I might try them.



I think it depends on how long it takes to wear them out.

I put a set of Altimax HP (440 treadwear) on my Achieva 7 1/2 years and 
26000
miles ago. They have about half the tread left, and don't stick to dry 
pavement
as well as they did new. They'll outlast my ownership of the car, but if I 
were

keeping it forever, I'd surely be replacing them before they wear out.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] goform tires

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

At fifty bucks apiece, lasting30 k miles would be great.
On Dec 19, 2015 3:33 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I'm thinking thru should not last any longer than about 30k miles. So is
> it really cheaper to get them than  a quality tire that will last 2-3 times
> as long? If it was a car I was selling I might try them.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 19, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > HA, you said they didn't give you a boost in economy.
> > How many miles do you have on them? It'll be interesting to see how they
> last.
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> >
> >  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 11:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] goform tires
> >
> > If you had been paying attention you would know that I am the happy,
> proud
> > owner of a set of Goform 195-70-HR-14 all season ties for my 1983 300TD.
> > They have good traction in wet or fry conditions (especially dry!) and
> give
> > me another 25 percent boost in fuel economy.  What's not to like?
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I was just curious about these Goform tires on tire-easy.com. They must
> >> be really crappy tires as they only have a 320AA tire quality rating.
> This
> >> site has Westlake tires that are cheaper and have a 500 rating, if a
> person
> >> was going for super cheap tires.
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Re: [MBZ] goform tires

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On December 19, 2015 at 3:48 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> At fifty bucks apiece, lasting30 k miles would be great.

How much do you pay for mount/stem/balance?
Around here, Farm Bureau and Wal-Mart get $17-18 per tire, tire stores $20-25.

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Re: [MBZ] goform tires

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On December 19, 2015 at 3:32 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm thinking thru should not last any longer than about 30k miles. So is it
> really cheaper to get them than  a quality tire that will last 2-3 times as
> long? If it was a car I was selling I might try them.


I think it depends on how long it takes to wear them out. 

I put a set of Altimax HP (440 treadwear) on my Achieva 7 1/2 years and 26000
miles ago. They have about half the tread left, and don't stick to dry pavement
as well as they did new. They'll outlast my ownership of the car, but if I were
keeping it forever, I'd surely be replacing them before they wear out. 

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Re: [MBZ] goform tires

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I'm thinking thru should not last any longer than about 30k miles. So is it 
really cheaper to get them than  a quality tire that will last 2-3 times as 
long? If it was a car I was selling I might try them.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 19, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> HA, you said they didn't give you a boost in economy.
> How many miles do you have on them? It'll be interesting to see how they last.
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
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> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 11:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] goform tires
> 
> If you had been paying attention you would know that I am the happy, proud
> owner of a set of Goform 195-70-HR-14 all season ties for my 1983 300TD.
> They have good traction in wet or fry conditions (especially dry!) and give
> me another 25 percent boost in fuel economy.  What's not to like?
> 
> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I was just curious about these Goform tires on tire-easy.com. They must
>> be really crappy tires as they only have a 320AA tire quality rating.  This
>> site has Westlake tires that are cheaper and have a 500 rating, if a person
>> was going for super cheap tires.
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Re: [MBZ] goform tires

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I purchased Kumho Sense and Goform tires for my 300TDs and have no
complaints whatsoever.  OTOH, I don't drive 50K miles/year either, more
like 7.5k miles.  For mounting Just Tires has good coupon deals
occasionally, around $12 per tire IIRC.

On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com
> wrote:

> Exactly. As far as I'm concerned the only tires worthy of our cars are
> Michelins, or Vredesteins for classics.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Dec 19, 2015, at 5:19 PM, WILTON via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Or blow out?
> >
> > Wilton
> >
> > - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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> > Cc: "Mitch Haley" <mi...@mitchellhaley.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 3:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] goform tires
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>> On December 19, 2015 at 3:32 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
> >>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm thinking thru should not last any longer than about 30k miles. So
> is it
> >>> really cheaper to get them than  a quality tire that will last 2-3
> times as
> >>> long? If it was a car I was selling I might try them.
> >>
> >>
> >> I think it depends on how long it takes to wear them out.
> >>
> >> I put a set of Altimax HP (440 treadwear) on my Achieva 7 1/2 years and
> 26000
> >> miles ago. They have about half the tread left, and don't stick to dry
> pavement
> >> as well as they did new. They'll outlast my ownership of the car, but
> if I were
> >> keeping it forever, I'd surely be replacing them before they wear out.
> >>
> >> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] goform tires

[WILTON via Mercedes]

My last tire problem was in 1971; none since buying my first Michelin then; 
10+ cars/vans and well over a million miles since.  Uh-oh!  'Hope I didn't 
just jinx it.  Part of the value of a car & tires is feeling comfortably 
safe, especially while at 75+ mph cruise.


Wilton

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I have had nothing but problems with anything but michelins. I did buy some 
pirellis for a 210 but have not installed them yet.


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On Dec 19, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
wrote:


Exactly. As far as I'm concerned the only tires worthy of our cars are 
Michelins, or Vredesteins for classics.


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 19, 2015, at 5:19 PM, WILTON via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
wrote:


Or blow out?

Wilton

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On December 19, 2015 at 3:32 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I'm thinking thru should not last any longer than about 30k miles. So 
is it
really cheaper to get them than  a quality tire that will last 2-3 
times as

long? If it was a car I was selling I might try them.



I think it depends on how long it takes to wear them out.

I put a set of Altimax HP (440 treadwear) on my Achieva 7 1/2 years and 
26000
miles ago. They have about half the tread left, and don't stick to dry 
pavement
as well as they did new. They'll outlast my ownership of the car, but 
if I were

keeping it forever, I'd surely be replacing them before they wear out.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] goform tires

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Exactly. As far as I'm concerned the only tires worthy of our cars are 
Michelins, or Vredesteins for classics.

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> On Dec 19, 2015, at 5:19 PM, WILTON via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Or blow out?
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley via Mercedes" 
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> Cc: "Mitch Haley" <mi...@mitchellhaley.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 3:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] goform tires
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On December 19, 2015 at 3:32 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm thinking thru should not last any longer than about 30k miles. So is it
>>> really cheaper to get them than  a quality tire that will last 2-3 times as
>>> long? If it was a car I was selling I might try them.
>> 
>> 
>> I think it depends on how long it takes to wear them out.
>> 
>> I put a set of Altimax HP (440 treadwear) on my Achieva 7 1/2 years and 26000
>> miles ago. They have about half the tread left, and don't stick to dry 
>> pavement
>> as well as they did new. They'll outlast my ownership of the car, but if I 
>> were
>> keeping it forever, I'd surely be replacing them before they wear out.
>> 
>> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] goform tires

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Exactly. Same here. I will not buy cheap tires period. I've learned my lesson 
enough times. 

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> On Dec 19, 2015, at 6:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> I have had nothing but problems with anything but michelins. I did buy some 
> pirellis for a 210 but have not installed them yet.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Exactly. As far as I'm concerned the only tires worthy of our cars are 
>> Michelins, or Vredesteins for classics.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 19, 2015, at 5:19 PM, WILTON via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Or blow out?
>>> 
>>> Wilton
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley via Mercedes" 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> Cc: "Mitch Haley" <mi...@mitchellhaley.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 3:55 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] goform tires
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On December 19, 2015 at 3:32 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm thinking thru should not last any longer than about 30k miles. So is 
>>>>> it
>>>>> really cheaper to get them than  a quality tire that will last 2-3 times 
>>>>> as
>>>>> long? If it was a car I was selling I might try them.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I think it depends on how long it takes to wear them out.
>>>> 
>>>> I put a set of Altimax HP (440 treadwear) on my Achieva 7 1/2 years and 
>>>> 26000
>>>> miles ago. They have about half the tread left, and don't stick to dry 
>>>> pavement
>>>> as well as they did new. They'll outlast my ownership of the car, but if I 
>>>> were
>>>> keeping it forever, I'd surely be replacing them before they wear out.
>>>> 
>>>> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] goform tires

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I have had nothing but problems with anything but michelins. I did buy some 
pirellis for a 210 but have not installed them yet.

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> On Dec 19, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Exactly. As far as I'm concerned the only tires worthy of our cars are 
> Michelins, or Vredesteins for classics.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2015, at 5:19 PM, WILTON via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Or blow out?
>> 
>> Wilton
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley via Mercedes" 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> Cc: "Mitch Haley" <mi...@mitchellhaley.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 3:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] goform tires
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On December 19, 2015 at 3:32 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I'm thinking thru should not last any longer than about 30k miles. So is it
>>>> really cheaper to get them than  a quality tire that will last 2-3 times as
>>>> long? If it was a car I was selling I might try them.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I think it depends on how long it takes to wear them out.
>>> 
>>> I put a set of Altimax HP (440 treadwear) on my Achieva 7 1/2 years and 
>>> 26000
>>> miles ago. They have about half the tread left, and don't stick to dry 
>>> pavement
>>> as well as they did new. They'll outlast my ownership of the car, but if I 
>>> were
>>> keeping it forever, I'd surely be replacing them before they wear out.
>>> 
>>> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] goform tires

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I have had nothing but problems with anything but michelins. I did 
buy some pirellis for a 210 but have not installed them yet.




THat car is a pos and the tires are too.  Give ya $200 for it.  Twice 
the crusher price!


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Re: [MBZ] goform tires

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Mitch sez:
And then there's Michelin:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin=Pilot+HX+MXM4=15VR7MXM4HXXL=false=yes



Michelin are overpriced frog skin that crap out early

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Re: [MBZ] goform tires

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

If you had been paying attention you would know that I am the happy, proud
owner of a set of Goform 195-70-HR-14 all season ties for my 1983 300TD.
They have good traction in wet or fry conditions (especially dry!) and give
me another 25 percent boost in fuel economy.  What's not to like?

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I was just curious about these Goform tires on tire-easy.com. They must
> be really crappy tires as they only have a 320AA tire quality rating.  This
> site has Westlake tires that are cheaper and have a 500 rating, if a person
> was going for super cheap tires.
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Re: [MBZ] goform tires

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That should be dry conditions...

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:55 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
wrote:

> If you had been paying attention you would know that I am the happy, proud
> owner of a set of Goform 195-70-HR-14 all season ties for my 1983 300TD.
> They have good traction in wet or fry conditions (especially dry!) and give
> me another 25 percent boost in fuel economy.  What's not to like?
>
> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> I was just curious about these Goform tires on tire-easy.com. They must
>> be really crappy tires as they only have a 320AA tire quality rating.  This
>> site has Westlake tires that are cheaper and have a 500 rating, if a person
>> was going for super cheap tires.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] goform tires

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On December 18, 2015 at 11:53 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I was just curious about these Goform tires on tire-easy.com. They must 
> be really crappy tires as they only have a 320AA tire quality rating.  

Contipro Contact grand touring tires are only 400AA A, but I guess the AA
traction is pretty good for a low rolling resistance tire. 

And then there's Michelin:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin=Pilot+HX+MXM4=15VR7MXM4HXXL=false=yes

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[MBZ] goform tires

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I was just curious about these Goform tires on tire-easy.com. They must 
be really crappy tires as they only have a 320AA tire quality rating.  
This site has Westlake tires that are cheaper and have a 500 rating, if 
a person was going for super cheap tires.


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