Re: [MBZ] new Diesel choices
Here's the info on one I chose randomly: http://www.wisebuyers.co.uk/motoring/car-reviews/Chrysler/Grand+Voyager+%282001-%29/1373/ Here's all the variations available here: http://www.wisebuyers.co.uk/motoring/car-specifications/Chrysler/Grand+Voyager+%282001-%29/ And that's the Chrysler model not the Dodge...they list that also Jeff Zedic
Re: [MBZ] new Diesel choices
"Jeff Zedic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As for diesel MPVs, almost every Dodge Caravan I see here, why they > have them is beyond me, is a diesel with a manual trans. Holy . I wish they sold those here. What engine do they us in them? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] new Diesel choices
good info. i've never been in a vito. Last time I was in Germany was 03, so I was not aware of the new model. I have seen the Vitos around in Europe, and I always thought it was a good alternative to the dodge caravan. At 07:23 AM 5/11/2007, you wrote: > > > oh, for the vito in the US! > > > Loren Faeth > > > __ Loren, The Vito is not that greatclick on the link http://www.wisebuyers.co.uk/motoring/car-reviews/Mercedes/V+Class+%281996-03%29/140/ This is a better choice than a Vito...the Viano http://www.wisebuyers.co.uk/motoring/car-reviews/Mercedes/Viano+%282004-%29/1208/ As for diesel MPVs, almost every Dodge Caravan I see here, why they have them is beyond me, is a diesel with a manual trans. Most Land Rovers are a 2.5 TDI alsoas is my new car...an Audi A4 1.9 TDI manual trans. Jeff Zedic London ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] new Diesel choices
oh, for the vito in the US! Loren Faeth __ Loren, The Vito is not that greatclick on the link http://www.wisebuyers.co.uk/motoring/car-reviews/Mercedes/V+Class+%281996-03%29/140/ This is a better choice than a Vito...the Viano http://www.wisebuyers.co.uk/motoring/car-reviews/Mercedes/Viano+%282004-%29/1208/ As for diesel MPVs, almost every Dodge Caravan I see here, why they have them is beyond me, is a diesel with a manual trans. Most Land Rovers are a 2.5 TDI alsoas is my new car...an Audi A4 1.9 TDI manual trans. Jeff Zedic London
Re: [MBZ] new Diesel choices
They sell them all over the rest of the world. I never found out what engine they used though. I saw a pretty good number in Germany, last trip. At 02:28 PM 5/10/2007, you wrote: now a $20K long caravan with a bluetec would get my attention! I would be there to buy the one next in line! A diesel minivan would be quite nice. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
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Blehk (gag)boring I'd rather drive a 20 yr old MB than a new honda. The liberty was interesting, if they had only used an OM616, or at least a 601/602 My first encounter with a honda (cvcc) was when I was plowing snow long ago, and the female owner was too arrogant to move it out of the lot so i could clear the snow. sure 'nuff, i bumped it with the ball on the bronco trying to maneuver around it. Punched a nice little hole right though the tinfoil. Loren Lotsa MBs No hondas, no toadas, nothing Asian. Never had any. nothing Detroit, except the Dog van. Nuthin English, Swedish, italian or french At 01:03 PM 5/10/2007, you wrote: On 5/10/07, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > why pay 48K for a dog when you can buy a Mercedes Benz for > less? Anybody know what the price is for the ML with the bluetec > engine? It is just not as handy as a caravan. oh, for the vito in the US! Last I heard, Honda will be selling the cheapest diesel SUV shortly (now that the Jeep Liberty with the Italian motor has been discontinued)---they're supposed to have diesel Ridgelines and Pilots on the lot next year for $30K or so. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] new Diesel choices
From: Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> About a year ago, there was big talk about several dodge models being available in the 07 year with the bluetec MB engine. Our of curiosity, i stopped at the 'friendly' not-so-local dodge dealer last week to inquire about dodge Diesels (not in pickups). After some searching, they told me that only the grand cherokee was available with the bluetec. And only in the most expensive model. The price? over $48,000 I guess the shareholder revolt has put a damper on allowing MB Diesels in Dog products. Coincidentally, I just read an article at lunch today about the Grand Cherokee CRD and I quote: "Remember, the diesel Grand C, while running on a Mercedes-supplied 3.0-litre turbo diesel engine, delivers fuel economy benefits, but it's not as clean as Mercedes' latest diesels, the Bluetecs. That superclean DCX diesel technology is able to meet the most stringent emissions standards in the world; the diesel in the '07 Grand C is no Bluetec, so it does not. That said, the Grand C Diesel is very fuel-efficient, and because of this it cuts C02 emissions by 20 per cent." This is how I understood it beforehand as well. Perhaps your dealer, as many are, did not have the correct info? The article also states that the diesel engine is indeed only available in the more expensive trim packages, not the base model. Pity. http://www.globeauto.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070510.whdieselmain-0510/GAStory/specialGlobeAuto/ There's a companion article to it in the same paper: http://www.globeauto.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070509.wh-cherokeereview-0510/GAStory/specialGlobeAuto As far as trucks go, I'd love to have a Chevy Avalanche, but it's a shame they don't put their diesel Duramax engine in it. Only in the standard pickup. Pity. Oh it's available with E85? There's one pump in Canada as I recall, and it ain't in my city. Besides, with the bad press E85 is getting as of late, I'm even more enamored with diesel/biodiesel. Tim 1982 300TD 1991 300TE 4Matic
Re: [MBZ] new Diesel choices
now a $20K long caravan with a bluetec would get my attention! I would be there to buy the one next in line! A diesel minivan would be quite nice. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] new Diesel choices
On 5/10/07, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: why pay 48K for a dog when you can buy a Mercedes Benz for less? Anybody know what the price is for the ML with the bluetec engine? It is just not as handy as a caravan. oh, for the vito in the US! Last I heard, Honda will be selling the cheapest diesel SUV shortly (now that the Jeep Liberty with the Italian motor has been discontinued)---they're supposed to have diesel Ridgelines and Pilots on the lot next year for $30K or so. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
[MBZ] new Diesel choices
About a year ago, there was big talk about several dodge models being available in the 07 year with the bluetec MB engine. Our of curiosity, i stopped at the 'friendly' not-so-local dodge dealer last week to inquire about dodge Diesels (not in pickups). After some searching, they told me that only the grand cherokee was available with the bluetec. And only in the most expensive model. The price? over $48,000 I guess the shareholder revolt has put a damper on allowing MB Diesels in Dog products. not for me!!! now a $20K long caravan with a bluetec would get my attention! why pay 48K for a dog when you can buy a Mercedes Benz for less? Anybody know what the price is for the ML with the bluetec engine? It is just not as handy as a caravan. oh, for the vito in the US! Loren newest vehicle is only 19 years old. No bluetecs in the foreseeable future. Loren Faeth
