[MBZ] Old cars rock

2014-10-20 Thread clay via Mercedes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18LrBpBPNlQ

Eric has a good perspective about our love of cranky old cars


clay 

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Re: [MBZ] Old cars

2008-06-05 Thread Bill R
I saw and had a ride in a Lada when I was in Cuba [Ministry of Tourism
vehicle I think].  Not impressive to say the least, but they were thought to
be a step up from a Moscovich [sp?].  It only broke down once on the way to
dinner, and was repaired quickly by some fuse box wiring with a coil of
wire.  BTW, if you are ever in Havana there is a great restaurant in the
fort at the entrance to the harbor, under the lighthouse.  You have to walk
some really weird paths to get there [uneven steps with no guardrail down
from the parking lot by the army base, through a barely lighted tunnel into
the fort, then across some unmarked courtyards to the restaurant entrance],
but a nice spot once you get there. There might even be some signs now.
BillR

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Did you folks down south ever have the Lada? Essentially an outdated Fiat
made in the USSR. I understand the metal
was so poor that it could not be taken apart and put back together because
the threads would not stand it. We had
them here for a while many years back but I have not seen one in a long
time.

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] Old cars

2008-06-05 Thread Jeff Zedic
My uncle had one years ago. I think it was the fiat 166 they licensed.
Rusty steel but great heaters! (go figure)

He had his for years and liked it.

Zedic

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Re: [MBZ] Old cars

2008-06-05 Thread Curt Raymond
I don't think we had them but the UK sure did. Check on Youtube for the one 
where the Top Gear guys have some company (I forget a division of Lotus maybe?) 
that soups up some guy's Lada. Very cool.

-Curt

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Did you folks down south ever have the Lada? Essentially an outdated Fiat made 
in the USSR. I understand the metal
was so poor that it could not be taken apart and put back together because the 
threads would not stand it. We had
them here for a while many years back but I have not seen one in a long time.

Randy



  
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Re: [MBZ] Old cars

2008-06-05 Thread Mitch Haley
R A Bennell wrote:
> 
> Did you folks down south ever have the Lada? 

No Lada, Innocenti, Trabant, etc. The only little cars we got were the
Suzuki Swift/Sprint/Metro/Firefly (although the only time I actually saw
a Firefly I was in Ontario) and the Yugo. Oh, we also had the Ford Festiva
and the Brazilian Pontiac Lemons.

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Re: [MBZ] Old cars

2008-06-05 Thread R A Bennell
Did you folks down south ever have the Lada? Essentially an outdated Fiat made 
in the USSR. I understand the metal
was so poor that it could not be taken apart and put back together because the 
threads would not stand it. We had
them here for a while many years back but I have not seen one in a long time.

Randy

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A guy I used to work for was an Indian/Brit, he bought a Sterling when
they came out.  If I recall he had loads of problems with it, but he
stuck with it because it was a Britmobile.  I think they were badged as
something else too, just as bad.

I saw a Yugo wheezing through a mall parking lot a year or two ago,
about all I can say is that in the Houston climate it did not appear to
be too rusted out, but it would have been hard to tell as it was a turd
brown color, fitting.

--R

Christopher McCann wrote:
> there's one at the local U-pick-it...along with a Yugo, which falls into the 
> same "I thought they were all
scrapped" category.
>
> Chris
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ...Donald Snook wrote: There is a 1990 Acura 
> Legend for sale here...
>
> Speaking of cars like that, I caught up to a Sterling (thought they were all
> scrapped) in traffic the other day. Very tatty. Friend of mine bought one new.
> Reliable as a five-dollar atomic bomb. I do not ask about it.
>
> RLE


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Re: [MBZ] Old cars

2008-06-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Yamaha was supposed to design it, they ended up making the whole powerplant. 
220 hp at a time when the top Mustang V8 was about 225. Both the Bull and
the Pony would do 145-150mph, but the Pony was rear wheel drive and launched
much better. 

Want one? http://lansing.craigslist.org/car/691326509.html

E M wrote:
> 
> A friend had a first gen Taurus SHO.  I think the engine or top end was made
> by, or designed by Yamaha?

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Re: [MBZ] Old cars

2008-06-05 Thread E M
A friend had a first gen Taurus SHO.  I think the engine or top end was made
by, or designed by Yamaha?  Was the poor man's M5 at the time. :-)  Seem to
remember it having a lot of torque steer.

Ed
300E

2008/6/5 LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Seems like there was praise for a Ford Taurus - I guess their sales record
> speaks for itself.  But the Taurus SHO was supposed to be a real hot rod -
> V8, dual exh, etc.
>
> We rented a standard Taurus once and it performed pretty well - ran at
> 70+mph in the rain on I95 from SC to VA and it never squeaked of leaked.
>
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 11:08 PM
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>
>
> > Those things were supposed to be fairly desirable performance cars in
> > their day, in the Euro tradition, no?
> >
> > --R
> >
> > Mitch Haley wrote:
> >> Speaking of "I thought they were all scrapped by now":
> >>
> >> http://www.auto-rv.com/Browse.aspx?AdName=CH3060035
> >> http://www.auto-rv.com/Browse.aspx?AdName=CM3170219
> >>
> >> That's right, not one, but two. And I saw, in real life, a Scorpio last
> >> week.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Old cars

2008-06-05 Thread LarryT
Seems like there was praise for a Ford Taurus - I guess their sales record 
speaks for itself.  But the Taurus SHO was supposed to be a real hot rod - 
V8, dual exh, etc.

We rented a standard Taurus once and it performed pretty well - ran at 
70+mph in the rain on I95 from SC to VA and it never squeaked of leaked.

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> Those things were supposed to be fairly desirable performance cars in
> their day, in the Euro tradition, no?
>
> --R
>
> Mitch Haley wrote:
>> Speaking of "I thought they were all scrapped by now":
>>
>> http://www.auto-rv.com/Browse.aspx?AdName=CH3060035
>> http://www.auto-rv.com/Browse.aspx?AdName=CM3170219
>>
>> That's right, not one, but two. And I saw, in real life, a Scorpio last 
>> week.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Old cars

2008-06-05 Thread E M
I think almost any car made in the past 10-15 years will easily run to over
200.000K given reasonable service.  Lots of friends have Japanese cars and
swear by them, even thought they have had their share of problems too. Only
difference being, an new alternator for a Toyota usually costs a lot more
than a new one for a Chev.

Ed
300E

2008/6/4 OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Those that I know who drive Japanese cars state that the drive train
> will run well over 200K, but the body falls apart around it. Seems
> true, based on observation. Compare that to a 123, 124, 126, etc.
>
> > I clearly remember a long-term test by one of the car mags which said
> > something to the effect that after x years all the Japanese parts of
> > the car were still working perfectly, while all the British parts had
> > either fallen off, broken, or both.
>
> --
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Re: [MBZ] Old cars

2008-06-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote:
> 
> Those things were supposed to be fairly desirable performance cars in
> their day, in the Euro tradition, no?

The SVO Mustang was quite desireable, I really don't know about the XR4ti,
other than the dual rear wing was an attention getter.

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Re: [MBZ] Old cars

2008-06-04 Thread Rich Thomas
Those things were supposed to be fairly desirable performance cars in 
their day, in the Euro tradition, no?

--R

Mitch Haley wrote:
> Speaking of "I thought they were all scrapped by now":
>
> http://www.auto-rv.com/Browse.aspx?AdName=CH3060035
> http://www.auto-rv.com/Browse.aspx?AdName=CM3170219
>
> That's right, not one, but two. And I saw, in real life, a Scorpio last week. 
>
>   
>

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Re: [MBZ] Old cars

2008-06-04 Thread OK Don
Those that I know who drive Japanese cars state that the drive train
will run well over 200K, but the body falls apart around it. Seems
true, based on observation. Compare that to a 123, 124, 126, etc.

> I clearly remember a long-term test by one of the car mags which said
> something to the effect that after x years all the Japanese parts of
> the car were still working perfectly, while all the British parts had
> either fallen off, broken, or both.

-- 
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics."
-Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain
'90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply
Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go)

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Re: [MBZ] Old cars

2008-06-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Speaking of "I thought they were all scrapped by now":

http://www.auto-rv.com/Browse.aspx?AdName=CH3060035
http://www.auto-rv.com/Browse.aspx?AdName=CM3170219

That's right, not one, but two. And I saw, in real life, a Scorpio last week. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > ...Donald Snook wrote: There is a 1990 Acura Legend for sale here...
> >
> Speaking of cars like that, I caught up to a Sterling (thought they were all
> scrapped) in traffic the other day. Very tatty. Friend of mine bought one new.
> Reliable as a five-dollar atomic bomb. I do not ask about it.
> 
> RLE
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Old cars

2008-06-04 Thread tom savage
Alex Chamberlain wrote:

> I clearly remember a long-term test by one of the car mags which said
> something to the effect that after x years all the Japanese parts of
> the car were still working perfectly, while all the British parts had
> either fallen off, broken, or both.

I used to work with a guy who was a former service adviser at one of 
those high-line megadealers in the late '80s and early '90s.  Getting 
ahold of even the Japanese parts for Sterling was a problem.  Apparently 
they took even longer to arrive than Jag parts, and when they did 
arrive, they were packed in old-fashioned wooden crates with the address 
and whatnot burned on by hand, instead of something frivolous like a 
paper label.

They quickly ended up buying as much as possible from the Honda dealer 
down the street.

Tom

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Re: [MBZ] Old cars

2008-06-04 Thread Rich Thomas
A guy I used to work for was an Indian/Brit, he bought a Sterling when 
they came out.  If I recall he had loads of problems with it, but he 
stuck with it because it was a Britmobile.  I think they were badged as 
something else too, just as bad.

I saw a Yugo wheezing through a mall parking lot a year or two ago, 
about all I can say is that in the Houston climate it did not appear to 
be too rusted out, but it would have been hard to tell as it was a turd 
brown color, fitting.

--R

Christopher McCann wrote:
> there's one at the local U-pick-it...along with a Yugo, which falls into the 
> same "I thought they were all scrapped" category.
>
> Chris
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ...Donald Snook wrote: There is a 1990 Acura 
> Legend for sale here...
>   
> Speaking of cars like that, I caught up to a Sterling (thought they were all 
> scrapped) in traffic the other day. Very tatty. Friend of mine bought one 
> new. 
> Reliable as a five-dollar atomic bomb. I do not ask about it.
>
> RLE
>   
>> 
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Old cars

2008-06-04 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:16 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> ...Donald Snook wrote: There is a 1990 Acura Legend for sale here...
>>
> Speaking of cars like that, I caught up to a Sterling (thought they were all
> scrapped) in traffic the other day.

I clearly remember a long-term test by one of the car mags which said
something to the effect that after x years all the Japanese parts of
the car were still working perfectly, while all the British parts had
either fallen off, broken, or both.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Old cars

2008-06-04 Thread Christopher McCann
there's one at the local U-pick-it...along with a Yugo, which falls into the 
same "I thought they were all scrapped" category.

Chris

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ...Donald Snook wrote: There is a 1990 Acura Legend 
for sale here...
> 
Speaking of cars like that, I caught up to a Sterling (thought they were all 
scrapped) in traffic the other day. Very tatty. Friend of mine bought one new. 
Reliable as a five-dollar atomic bomb. I do not ask about it.

RLE
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Old cars

2008-06-04 Thread RELNGSON
> ...Donald Snook wrote: There is a 1990 Acura Legend for sale here...
> 
Speaking of cars like that, I caught up to a Sterling (thought they were all 
scrapped) in traffic the other day. Very tatty. Friend of mine bought one new. 
Reliable as a five-dollar atomic bomb. I do not ask about it.

RLE
> 
> 




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[MBZ] Old cars for your garage

2005-08-17 Thread redghost

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/91522990.html  --85 SD $2600

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/91469774.html  --77 280e  $999

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/91478655.html  --71 220 gasser  $1800

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/91454155.html  --79 240D  $1500

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/91407088.html  --87  300d  $5k

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/91390996.html  --220D shot trans

http://seattle.craigslist.org/pts/90749143.html  --R12 $15/can


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Clay
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1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA




[MBZ] old cars

2005-08-05 Thread redghost

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/89020825.html  --77 300D  $2k

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/88995169.html  --85 300D  $4500

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/88915648.html  --Wagon for Casey $500


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1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA