Re: [MBZ] question for people who know about music - still no MB

2008-07-15 Thread Gary Thompson
My younger brother discovered just what competition was when he got to
North Texas. He thought he was a pretty good sax player until he
started meeting these guys who were from families of 2-3 generations
of jazz musicians and got their first horn handed to them in the
cradle. (Our Dad can't carry a tune in a bucket) He ended up in one of
the reading bands on tenor his Freshman year. Switched to bari after
that and made it as far up as the 4:00 band.

He realized pretty quickly he didn't want to teach and you don't need
a degree to performed. Switched to business for his degree. Of course,
no way to explain how he ended up as a pilot instead...

Me, I was a journeyman trombone player. Spent a couple of years in the
University of Texas Jazz Orchestra until I got too short on practice
time. Still ahve a couple of horns in the closet.

Gary Thompson
"and, yes, it will always be North Texas State to me"


On 7/14/08, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My Arban is very worn and now in a spiral bound back.  It holds together
> better that way :)
> NT State is still one of the best band schools in the nation.  Regularly
> the top marching band around and they have a WA kick ass drum &
> bugle core.  I had several friends that I played percussion ensemble go
> there.  Very impressive players.
>
> Luther

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Re: [MBZ] question for people who know about music - still no MB

2008-07-14 Thread Luther
My Arban is very worn and now in a spiral bound back.  It holds together 
better that way :)
NT State is still one of the best band schools in the nation.  Regularly 
the top marching band around and they have a WA kick ass drum & 
bugle core.  I had several friends that I played percussion ensemble go 
there.  Very impressive players.

Luther

Bill R wrote:
> As a HS student I thought I was pretty good with a horn, but I discovered
> that I was a big fish in a very small pond when we got a new band director.
> His sons, just over college age, were required to play the entire Arban's in
> order to pass HS band under him [thankfully the rest of us were not so
> challenged].  Trumpet playing son took a summer job as lead trumpet for
> Woody Herman, after being lead in the Navy Swing band and starting out as
> 1st chair in the 1:00 lab band at North Texas State - at that time probably
> the best band school in the US.  His dad said he could hit a high 'C' on a
> trumpet suspended on a string - amazing breath control.  I sat with him,
> barely able to follow the music, while he was playing some Dizzy Gillespie
> charts; trombone playing son was almost as good.  Their HS band director dad
> had played lead trombone with Barnum and Bailey back when they had a
> travelling band, still spent summers playing lead trombone for Jackie
> Gleason, and was friends with JJ Johnson and Herbie Green and such as that.
> Last I saw them one son was working in a convenience store and the other was
> a chain smoking overweight trumpet player, and also starting to drink.  He
> was still [or again] with Woody Herman, and had a split in his lip you could
> put a dime in and still had to play every night.  That convinced me that
> even if I were very good [I wasn't] and even had some top connections [I
> didn't] it was not likely I'd ever get anywhere in the business.  After that
> I just enjoyed playing in HS and college, but just for the fun of it.  That
> is not a business for very many people.  You hear a lot about how few HS and
> college athletes ever make it big, but I bet there are more music students
> with some dreams and even a smaller number who are able make a living at it,
> with skills being even less a factor than in sports.
> BillR  
>
>   


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Re: [MBZ] question for people who know about music - still no MB content

2008-07-14 Thread Jim Cathey
> I just enjoyed playing in HS and college, but just for the fun of it.  
> That
> is not a business for very many people.  You hear a lot about how few 
> HS and
> college athletes ever make it big, but I bet there are more music 
> students
> with some dreams and even a smaller number who are able make a living 
> at it,
> with skills being even less a factor than in sports.

Yeah, best to have a day job!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] question for people who know about music - still no MB content

2008-07-14 Thread Bill R
As a HS student I thought I was pretty good with a horn, but I discovered
that I was a big fish in a very small pond when we got a new band director.
His sons, just over college age, were required to play the entire Arban's in
order to pass HS band under him [thankfully the rest of us were not so
challenged].  Trumpet playing son took a summer job as lead trumpet for
Woody Herman, after being lead in the Navy Swing band and starting out as
1st chair in the 1:00 lab band at North Texas State - at that time probably
the best band school in the US.  His dad said he could hit a high 'C' on a
trumpet suspended on a string - amazing breath control.  I sat with him,
barely able to follow the music, while he was playing some Dizzy Gillespie
charts; trombone playing son was almost as good.  Their HS band director dad
had played lead trombone with Barnum and Bailey back when they had a
travelling band, still spent summers playing lead trombone for Jackie
Gleason, and was friends with JJ Johnson and Herbie Green and such as that.
Last I saw them one son was working in a convenience store and the other was
a chain smoking overweight trumpet player, and also starting to drink.  He
was still [or again] with Woody Herman, and had a split in his lip you could
put a dime in and still had to play every night.  That convinced me that
even if I were very good [I wasn't] and even had some top connections [I
didn't] it was not likely I'd ever get anywhere in the business.  After that
I just enjoyed playing in HS and college, but just for the fun of it.  That
is not a business for very many people.  You hear a lot about how few HS and
college athletes ever make it big, but I bet there are more music students
with some dreams and even a smaller number who are able make a living at it,
with skills being even less a factor than in sports.
BillR  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Luther
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:13 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] question for people who know about music

Wow.  That's wa cool.  Mine is only a few years from being a much
coveted Mt. Vernon, NY model. 

I'm in the market for a new horn.  I'm shopping  euphoniums.  A good
compensating that I can cover most any tuba music in small ensemble work.  

Luther

-Original Message-
From: Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 11:41 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] question for people who know about music

> The original post I responded to stated that a 9' herald trumpet was 
> 3x the length of a regular trumpet.  This is incorrect.

The only 3x I remember was mine, trying to state that a heraldic
trumpet was around 3x the linear dimension of a regular one since
the two major turns were omitted.

My axe is a 60's Benge with a custom 6" Martin bell.  It was a prototype
for a series of which Martin supposedly only made 24, and was once owned
by Mic Gilette of Tower of Power.  Supposedly the exact horn he played
when recording the Flintstones' theme music.  The big bell was for more
back sound so you could hear yourself over the guitars.

My brother has one of the 24.  It's much bigger bore than mine, and is
like trying to fill a baritone.  We went to high school with Mic's
brother in law.

-- Jim


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