Re: [MBZ] swap 603.96 for a .97

2017-12-25 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes 
Which transmission would you use?
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'87 300TD
'95 E300

On December 25, 2017 9:06:11 AM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>86-87 3.0 148hp @ 4600rpm,  273lb @ 2400rpm
>
>90-91 3.5 136hp @ 4000rpm, 310lb @ 2000rpm
>
>92-95 3.5 150hp @ 4000rpm, 310lb @ 2000rpm
>
>
>On 12/24/2017 10:39 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>> If I recall right, the 86-87 300 engines have more HP than the "3.5"
>>
>>> Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>>> December 24, 2017 at 9:07 PM
>>> If you put the IP from the 3.5 on the 3.0, you'll need to adjust the
>
>>> pump governor for the higher RPM, and maybe turn down the fuel
>amount 
>>> a bit to reduce smoking. I've still got to make those adjustments on
>
>>> mine, probably going to start with just increasing the maximum RPM. 
>>> Now that I've got the boost turned up and the bad delivery valve 
>>> fixed, my car is running pretty good but still has worse fuel 
>>> consumption than before.
>>>
>>> Keep the 3.0 turbo, it has a simple pressure operated waste gate.
>The 
>>> 3.5 has the vacuum operated, more complex.
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] swap 603.96 for a .97

2017-12-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 

86-87 3.0 148hp @ 4600rpm,  273lb @ 2400rpm

90-91 3.5 136hp @ 4000rpm, 310lb @ 2000rpm

92-95 3.5 150hp @ 4000rpm, 310lb @ 2000rpm


On 12/24/2017 10:39 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

If I recall right, the 86-87 300 engines have more HP than the "3.5"


Max Dillon via Mercedes 
December 24, 2017 at 9:07 PM
If you put the IP from the 3.5 on the 3.0, you'll need to adjust the 
pump governor for the higher RPM, and maybe turn down the fuel amount 
a bit to reduce smoking. I've still got to make those adjustments on 
mine, probably going to start with just increasing the maximum RPM. 
Now that I've got the boost turned up and the bad delivery valve 
fixed, my car is running pretty good but still has worse fuel 
consumption than before.


Keep the 3.0 turbo, it has a simple pressure operated waste gate. The 
3.5 has the vacuum operated, more complex.




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Re: [MBZ] swap 603.96 for a .97

2017-12-24 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
Okay. I am writing this as much for me as for you. Actually, I writing for me 
(New Years Resolution time). If it applies to you, so be it. 

Stop buying cars you aren't going to fix. 
‎
Just. 
‎
Stop. 
‎
Fix the cars you own that can be fixed quickly, cheaply and easily, and sell 
them. For a profit. If I'm not going to make a profit, why did I buy them? 

Part out the scrappers that need parted and scrap the hulks. I can't save them 
all. I'm getting too old for this stuff. ‎

I'm going to purchase four (me, SWMBO, and two kids) ‎W210's as low miles as 
feasible, NOT FROM THE RUST BELT, and be done with working on daily drivers, 
daily. 

If I purchase a "flip" car, or a "hobby" car, I will flip it or hobby it. 
Period. 

Rick

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Re: [MBZ] swap 603.96 for a .97

2017-12-24 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes 

If I recall right, the 86-87 300 engines have more HP than the "3.5"


Max Dillon via Mercedes 
December 24, 2017 at 9:07 PM
If you put the IP from the 3.5 on the 3.0, you'll need to adjust the 
pump governor for the higher RPM, and maybe turn down the fuel amount 
a bit to reduce smoking. I've still got to make those adjustments on 
mine, probably going to start with just increasing the maximum RPM. 
Now that I've got the boost turned up and the bad delivery valve 
fixed, my car is running pretty good but still has worse fuel 
consumption than before.


Keep the 3.0 turbo, it has a simple pressure operated waste gate. The 
3.5 has the vacuum operated, more complex.




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Re: [MBZ] swap 603.96 for a .97

2017-12-24 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes 
If you put the IP from the 3.5 on the 3.0, you'll need to adjust the pump 
governor for the higher RPM, and maybe turn down the fuel amount a bit to 
reduce smoking.  I've still got to make those adjustments on mine, probably 
going to start with just increasing the maximum RPM.  Now that I've got the 
boost turned up and the bad delivery valve fixed, my car is running pretty good 
but still has worse fuel consumption than before.

Keep the 3.0 turbo, it has a simple pressure operated waste gate.  The 3.5 has 
the vacuum operated, more complex.
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On December 24, 2017 6:56:35 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>So I have a couple of 140 diesels that I need to do something with. 
>One 
>I bought a while back that supposedly has a dead motor.  The other one
>I 
>bought a while back supposedly had something wrong with it and they 
>pulled the head off and it is currently apart with the parts in the 
>trunk.  I also have several .96 motors sitting around.  I would prefer 
>to keep a 3.5 a 3.5, but have been thinking about swapping in a 3.0.  I
>
>know the .97 is lower RPM and has more torque, but how much of a 
>difference would it be to drop in a .96?  Would the gearing be any 
>different? Would it be worth while to swap the updated .97 head onto
>the 
>.96?  Should the .97 IP be swapped onto the .96?  What about Turbo?  
>Anybody have any thoughts or ran into anybody that has done this swap? 
>
>I do have the 350SDL that the fuse box caught on fire but has the 
>factory rebuilt with updated rods engine.  Still trying to decide if
>its 
>a parts car or if I should splice wires and fix the wiring to the fuse
>box.
>
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[MBZ] swap 603.96 for a .97

2017-12-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
So I have a couple of 140 diesels that I need to do something with.  One 
I bought a while back that supposedly has a dead motor.  The other one I 
bought a while back supposedly had something wrong with it and they 
pulled the head off and it is currently apart with the parts in the 
trunk.  I also have several .96 motors sitting around.  I would prefer 
to keep a 3.5 a 3.5, but have been thinking about swapping in a 3.0.  I 
know the .97 is lower RPM and has more torque, but how much of a 
difference would it be to drop in a .96?  Would the gearing be any 
different? Would it be worth while to swap the updated .97 head onto the 
.96?  Should the .97 IP be swapped onto the .96?  What about Turbo?  
Anybody have any thoughts or ran into anybody that has done this swap?  
I do have the 350SDL that the fuse box caught on fire but has the 
factory rebuilt with updated rods engine.  Still trying to decide if its 
a parts car or if I should splice wires and fix the wiring to the fuse box.



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